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Husband doing nothing to help at Christmas.

105 replies

pjsrock2020 · 22/12/2020 15:51

I know there are more important things in the world right now, but does anyone else's husband do fuck all to prepare for Christmas. Feeling exhausted and pissed off. He's always useless at Christmas but this year he's even more useless. If I say anything he accuses me of nagging and it turns into an argument. He knows none of the presents I've bought for our children, nor the presents I've bought for his children (my dsc) and he doesn't seem to care either. I've thought of what to buy, wrapped everything and sorted everything. The final straw came yesterday when I'd been and got my Christmas food shop (took ages, had to queue for 20 minutes to get in etc) and was so relieved it was over, then he got in from work and opened a load of it like a child. When I said to him but that was for Christmas he got really moody with me and said I knew you'd moan, like I was moody and unreasonable. I'm doing all the housework to get the house ready and all of the food preparation.
Is it too much to actually want him to do stuff as well? I actually work more hours than him too! Feeling utterly exhausted and pissed off. Feel like telling him to shove it all up his arse!

OP posts:
pjsrock2020 · 22/12/2020 22:24

I'm sorry to hear that @snappyfart
I must admit, I am very close to that. I'm not interested in sex at all anymore, as I feel like he thinks of me as a bloody skivvy.
Would you not leave him and either just be happily single, or find somebody else with who you could find that spark again? I am aware it's not that easy.

OP posts:
pjsrock2020 · 22/12/2020 22:24

Sorry, meant to say @snappyoldfart

OP posts:
MsTSwift · 22/12/2020 22:33

Terrible. Dh is very senior and has been working mad hours recently on a big matter but he has done loads - half kids presents bought and wrapped all the booze he’s wrapped the stockings today

RandomMess · 22/12/2020 22:46

Sadly he does see you as his personal skivvy!!!

snappyoldfart · 22/12/2020 22:51

Love the fact you missed out my old bit!

We've actually talked about it openly about how we are like brother and sister, I've said maybe we would be better apart but I don't hate him at all, I just don't love him like a husband, so he's a huge part of life part of the DS life and for now it's easy having a good partner and friend.

And he feels the same, although he would prefer a full marriage, I'm afraid that being worn down and stressed he would still be a sex pest so I understand why for you now that is literally a chore.

In my two day sob fest I told him that, I told him I pretended to want him, I lied about being turned on and that he nagged me so much I used to just give up.. he was pretty disgusted with himself to be fair.

WizardOfAus · 22/12/2020 23:34

I’m copying and pasting this incredible post from another thread. It cannot be repeated enough on Mumsnet. Unfortunately, I can’t recall the original author.

(This post is specifically geared at women in heterosexual relationships.) Ok ladies, we need to talk.

Every few weeks there's a post that makes the admin team spend a day debating if we should say something or not. These posts are always on the same theme; husbands who are not pulling their weight.

Well, after just reading a post from this week were a whopping 4 HUNDRED of you commented in solidarity with the OP I've decided today is the day we say something.

Household chore inequity and child care inequality is a form of domestic abuse. It forces women to work themselves into exhaustion and illness, whilst men buy their free time with female exhaustion.

No one wants to see themselves as being in an abusive relationship. It means acknowledging that someone you love, someone you married or committed to, someone you chose to have children with is taking advantage of you and that hurts on so many levels.

it's heartbreaking to acknowledge, but acknowledge it we must.

If your husband or partner is capable of working at their job without being micromanaged and given extremely explicit instructions, then they are capable of contributing fairly at home without being given extremely explicit instructions and micromanaged. If they act like they are incapable they are gaslighting you.

If they were capable of living independently without living in a rat-infested pigsty without any clean clothes and living off pizza, then they are capable of ensuring children are fed and clothed, groceries are done, and household chores are shared equally. If they act like they are incapable they are gaslighting you.

If they claim they love you and yet your health comes secondary to their leisure, they're gaslighting you.

If they claim they can't possibly function and it would be unsafe for them to work with broken sleep, but it's totally fine for you to have to work, drive and do all the household chores and childcare on broken sleep, they're taking advantage of you.

If they say they are going to get up in the night and help but when the time comes the pretend to be asleep/complain, they're gaslighting you.

If they don't even actually try to settle the baby and had bub back almost immediately with "they just want you:", they're gaslighting you.

If your health, sanity, sleep, work, or self-esteem are suffering because you are the one doing everything, whilst they leverage your exhaustion into their free time, they're abusing you.
Like other forms of abuse, it will not get better on its own. It's not an accident.

So please ladies. Please stop laughing it off as "just men"

It's not just men. It's purposeful.

It might not be consciously purposeful, but it is still purposeful. They know they can get away with it.

one of you being on antidepressants because your husband won't help raise the children he fathered is one too many. 400+ of you being exhausted to the brink of PND and breakdowns is heartbreaking for us to watch.

You can't fix this by night weaning. Or sleep training. Or bedsharing, or chore charts, or even kicking hubby into the spare room. There are only two things that will fix this - therapy, or leaving.

I am sorry.

hocuspocus1922 · 22/12/2020 23:38

I'm in the same boat op I feel like my heads going today I'm
Too worked up and anxious to go to sleep . 1st day off and Iv not stopped from 7 this morning whilst he has sat there and watched

Wearywithteens · 22/12/2020 23:40

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changedmynameforChristmas · 22/12/2020 23:44

The problem is when you keep putting up with it and he lets you and then you complain it gets a negative attitude from him and pisses you off even more.

Why did you allow it to happen in the first place OP? I feel sorry and yet angry at the same time.

Can I ask is he good in other ways or is he an all round slob ?

Sewsosew · 23/12/2020 00:03

DH doesn’t do anything really. I don’t mind. I can’t cope with his slowness (hours wrapping a present, he’s always been the same) and he’s a really dreadful cook.
The payoff is he splashes cash about and at some point on Christmas Day when I’ve had enough wine, I go on total strike.
What I objected to is when his mother use to come and also do nothing. BUT DH used to go on about her being a massive help blah blah. All whilst never getting off the sofa.

Holothane · 23/12/2020 00:11

I now can’t cook like I used to so meals are put in the oven things even Christmas dinner I’ll be using tinned carrots and peas, it’s easier there’s only two of us, roasts just put in oven, small turkey breast thing, stuffing as well, at least my dh appreciates me and helps with hoovering and local shopping.

partyatthepalace · 23/12/2020 00:14

He sounds AWFUL.

For heavens sake next Christmas get dinner frozen from Cook if he won’t help (and you can afford to) and tell him you will not be getting step kids presents.

But OP, it sounds like your problem with him is much bigger than Christmas.

LastDayOfMay · 23/12/2020 00:31

To badly paraphrase Chris Rock “do they still make you...?”

Men this lazy and the women who put up with it.

Is there a special club where they meet?

LastDayOfMay · 23/12/2020 00:36

Side note: Fairy Lights go on first. Just like milk goes in after the brew and beans don’t go on a Full English.

FeckTheMagicDragon · 23/12/2020 01:11

My first husband was like this. And worse, small kids make it difficult to leave - but I spent 10 years too long with that man because of guilt and obligation. By the end of it we were all unhappy - except him living his carefree life. But I did eventually ask him to leave. I did remarry, this year I’ve not been well and very busy with work. My husband (who loves Christmas more than me) get the tree up (I decorated) and picked and ordered all the presents for my kids - his adult step children - and my sister, as well as his own family. I will cook on Christmas Day but he’s done all the shopping. Neither of us are perfect but we are a team. Isn’t that what marriage is supposed to be?

pjsrock2020 · 23/12/2020 08:11

@WizardofAus
Thank you so much for this, it made me cry.
I know I've probably made myself sound weak and ridiculous, but I didn't really think about how bad it has become over the years. I'm not going to live like this anymore, I feel more and more exhausted and resentful and I'm usually a really happy bubbly person.
I have three jobs, three children and three step-children. I get up at seven and literally don't sit down until I flop into bed about ten at night.
I'm starting to think he can fuck off actually.
He makes me laugh, just lately I've refused to make his lunch and iron his shirt for work (was getting up 30 minutes earlier to do it - yes, I know, stupid!), so he does it himself. He doesn't do anyone else's though - doesn't think while I'm here I'll do the children's. That is the thing that started to make me think it's wrong to live like this, it's not normal.

I can't begin to tell you what a source of strength women on Mumsnet are.

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Disfordarkchocolate · 23/12/2020 08:13

I do a bit more but not enough to bother me. He takes equal responsibility and rarely needs reminding.

gamerchick · 23/12/2020 08:21

I take it you're doing the kitchen slog on the day?

Not anymore you're not. He's doing it, even if it means you sort yourself and the kids out with something not christmasy.

That way when you see the stubborn selfishness you expect being played out, you might dump the twat in the new year.

MsTSwift · 23/12/2020 10:37

Omg outrageous. I would be devastated if my daughter became some mans maid 🙄🙄

Dozer · 23/12/2020 11:27

First, hats off to you for all your hard work, managing it all.

Unfortunately your H is sexist and prioritises his own wishes over his DCs’ and yours needs and wishes. And until now you’ve allowed this.

Suggest immediately stopping doing more things for your H’s benefit. Getting through xmas, then considering, by yourself, whether or not you’re willing / able to carry on in the relationship.

It doesn’t seem hopeful, given his history and current behaviour, that your H will change his attitudes and behaviour.

pinotgrigio · 23/12/2020 11:39

My XH was exactly like this.

XH.

MrsTerryPratchett · 23/12/2020 14:34

He makes me laugh, just lately I've refused to make his lunch and iron his shirt for work (was getting up 30 minutes earlier to do it - yes, I know, stupid!), so he does it himself. He doesn't do anyone else's though - doesn't think while I'm here I'll do the children's.

Twat

fairydustandpixies · 23/12/2020 14:36

Divorce may be a good option here???

evenBetter · 24/12/2020 00:16

So your life would be hugely, hugely easier, and more pleasant, if you ditched this shit choice of male. That’s a good thing! Start the ball rolling with a solicitor and enjoy life. three jobs, three kids AND parenting that fuckin losers three kids is beyond ridiculous.

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 24/12/2020 00:32

That's awesome @WizardOfAus. Every woman should print it out and display it somewhere or send to their daughters! This shit needs to stop!

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