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Husband left after 25 years together

107 replies

2020notmyyear · 17/12/2020 19:58

Hi any help or advice would be much appreciated.
In January my husband said he loved me but wasn't in love with me and looked at me like a best friend and was leaving.. Which made me feel great!!! He didn't leave till September, said he wanted to be sure, I tried really hard to save our marriage not just for me but for our 3 children as well ..
We had been married for 20yrs most of them happy I thought and believed that we were strong together and would be together for ever..
Since he's left he texts and rings me every day.. Morning and night time.. I've since found out that he has a female friend who he said it's only friendship but they have been texting each other for most of our married life in secret, which feels like a massive betrayal.. He won't tell me who she is, as he says she is nothing to do with him leaving..
He comes 3or 4 times a week to see the children and for tea.. Hugs me when he leaves.
He said he wants us to be friends but I'm so confused and I don't believe him anymore.. I feel like I need space from him but scared of losing him in my life.
Any advice on what I can say or do please

OP posts:
AIMD · 17/12/2020 22:35

@Wnikat

You need to put some boundaries in place. At the moment he has everything his way. He’s free of his responsibilities but can still dip back in to his family whenever he wants. You need set times when he sees the children, without you there. He needs to lose you, properly, and you need to find yourself without him
I agree with this totally.

He shouldn’t be contacting you every day, popping around or hugging you. Your not his best friend. He’s being massively unfair on you.

Verylongweek · 17/12/2020 22:38

No there isn’t another woman (as far as anyone can know that). He’s going through a mental health crisis and desciding if he can cope with family life. I get it’s not the same scenario but the set up is similar in that he’s somewhere he can’t have the kids so basically gets to piss off and have time to himself all week and then come home and play happy families at the weekend.

Hannsmum · 17/12/2020 22:43

@bluntness100 honestly some people are bloody insensitive and clearly clueless

Why bring covid into this?

Onthedunes · 17/12/2020 22:45

Oh op, I really feel for you.

He must be a phenomenal man for you to be treated like this.
I know your scared but what of, you've already faced the greatest fear of being punched in the gut by this man.

He's not hidden anything from you really, you know the score with this other woman.
It will do you no good to behave like a door mat.
He is treating you with utter contempt.
Please stop him from coming round as and when he wants, you cannot heal and your mental health will deteriorate.

I think he has a fear... a fear you will move on and find someone you don't have to share, and a fear of losing half his money.

Keep him away, file for divorce and get what your entitled to.

He want's everything, a total selfish bastard in every way.
Sorry you had to put up with him.

Flowers
Onthedunes · 17/12/2020 22:47

@Verylongweek

Don't put up with that set up.

Bamboo15 · 17/12/2020 22:50

@Wnikat

You need to put some boundaries in place. At the moment he has everything his way. He’s free of his responsibilities but can still dip back in to his family whenever he wants. You need set times when he sees the children, without you there. He needs to lose you, properly, and you need to find yourself without him
This.
Lora88 · 17/12/2020 22:51

For a start stop letting him walk all over you why are you letting him have his cake and eat it ? Of course he’ll never come back whilst he’s getting to come round to family home for his tea etc , you need clear boundaries , once he realises you are moving on that’s the only thing that will make his mind up for him right now he’s got it so easy

Honeyroar · 17/12/2020 22:57

He has been texting someone else and having an emotional affair (and probably more) while you were together. He DID leave for her, whatever he says.

You will never move on or get back on your feet while he’s constantly calling, texting and visiting. Let him take the children and look after them himself- don’t let him come to the house and be a bloody Disney dad guest. And don’t you dare let him have a wonderful Christmas shared with you “for the children”. You’re dragging the pain of the split out for all of you. He wanted to leave, he left. He’s not a part of your inner family. He’s a part of the children’s family and consequently he’ll have his own time with them. He’s not your best friend. Friends treat you better..

shiningstar2 · 17/12/2020 23:13

I think that at the moment he thinks he can have you back whenever he wants. Do you want to be his fallback/reserve person if whatever he's doing now doesn't work out? As other's have said, he is having his cake and eating it.
I know it's hard op, if you still have feelings for him, but he is treating you terribly. Don't let him take you for granted. Don't be passive, waiting on his wishes and decisions. You really need to take control and start calling the shots. Tell him he won't be coming and going in the family home any longer. It isn't his home. Tell him which days and times he can collect the kids. Begin the formal process of claiming maintenance from him unless you are quite sure that he is paying more than the minimum officially required.

If you start taking control he will get the shock of his life. Even if this makes him willing to have another go, I would be very careful about considering this. As Honeyroar says 'he is not your best friend. Friends treat you better. Good luck op Flowers

Pumpkinpie1 · 18/12/2020 00:05

He left.
That doesn’t give him the right to come into your home & play at happy families , getting his tea made !
Come on .
Is he not wanting his children to see where he’s living ?
This is just confusing them & you.
Stop being a mug , he needs to face the consequences of his choice & stop using you

JudyGemstone · 18/12/2020 00:11

He has Ben cheating on you for years, nahbe not physically but emotionally.

He doesn't want to be with you but he also wants to keep you on the back burner, in case things don't work out.

Honestly it's so transparent and predictable. Take back some control over your own life and file for divorce.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 18/12/2020 00:13

Can’t believe this woman is going through this and folks are more bothered about if she’s obeying Covid rules

It’s a totally valid point in this situation where someone it’s yet another example of overstepping boundaries still treating his ex household as his current one. A mark needs to be drawn. It isn’t his household anymore, he made his choice, he can’t come and go as he chooses.

billy1966 · 18/12/2020 00:19

OP,
Great advice above.
I'm so sorry.

He is not the man you thought he was.

He is a sly weasel.
He has been playing you for many years.

Put very firm boundaries in place and start detaching.

However you feel, you have one duplicitous prick on your hands there.

So sorry.
Flowers

SimplyRadishing · 18/12/2020 00:21

Take control and put on your big girl pants.

No food.
No hugs.
No cosy chats.
No friendly texts.
He shat over all that when he left your marriage.

He is 100% emotionally and or physically involved with her.
Read "the script" and chumplady.

Start working out what assets he has. Read up on divorce so you can best position yourself and go for everything you can.

Start the process of filing for divorce.
This man is not your friend

AmICrazyorWhat2 · 18/12/2020 00:31

I’ve been with my DH for a similar number of years and if he walked out on me, that would be it. I’d be amicable, but not his friend and certainly not making meals, allowing him to visit as he pleased, etc.

Decide on your boundaries and implement them now. Christmas is a good time to do it- you’re not having a family Christmas like previous years, he’ll see your children at HIS place at certain times and you’ll spend time with them as well. I wouldn’t be having any cosy, let’s-pretend-everything’s-OK Christmas...and don’t even think about laying on Christmas dinner for him. Time for him to face the reality of his decision. Stay strong, OP:💐

criminallyinsane · 18/12/2020 00:43

He's left you and now it is time for you to leave him. Sorry OP. There is no other way forward..

IdblowJonSnow · 18/12/2020 00:52

Cut him off the selfish risk-taking twat.
OP that's awful. He obviously has zero empathy or understanding of how you feel. Sad
Tell him he needs to see the DC elsewhere, to stop bloody hugging you and get his arse divorced.
Oh and change the locks.
Sorry you're going through this. Flowers

katy1213 · 18/12/2020 01:29

He needs to feel the chill wind of living on his own as a single dad without a 'best friend', just a maybe/maybe not girlfriend who doesn't seem over-enthusiastic about committing to him.
Guess he'll be taking the kids for lots of walks in the park, unless he can cope with them under his feet in his new bachelor pad.
It's not your job to make him happy in his new life!
Stop replying to texts/messages unless they relate to childcare.
If he's feeling a bit lonely - tough.

thosetalesofunexpected · 18/12/2020 02:03

Hi Op
I am not surprised you feel so confused hurt,etc.

You need to set up strong, definate personal boundaries to protect yourself from this emotion upheaval.

Also please stop preparing, making tea food for him from now on, just give him cup of tea/coffee an biscuits,as just civil for children's sake, not even bother to get in his fav biscuits.
(no extra hospality for you re gain your self respect after shit ,your ex husband,put you through.

Also tell him straight that you no longer want him to tel you everyday..
And tell him or discourage him from hugging you when he visits your children,
Tell him you only want him to show affection,to his children.

The reasons being you don't want him to show affection towards you in that way or ring you up constantly everyday simply causes it screws up your head far too much.
Its not fair on you and it unacceptable,
After the way your ex husband treating you.
He can not have all things his own way, having his cake and eating like what's happening right now.

(You also need to some space to think, about your feelings and how to move forward in your life.

Plus does it have to be 3 or 4 times per week then?(is this informal arrangement with parental visits?
Op you seem far accommodating to your ex husbands needs/wishes why is this?
I think once or twice is good adequate for your ex husband to visit his children.

If your husband does not like new arrangements of once or twice a week seeing his children tough shit,if he does not like it.

Op Also whenever you feel like a break from your children such as like you want a mini break for yourself on your own/friends or visit a healthspa ,don't be shy to let your ex husband know in advance that you need a break or night out with friends and him to babysit for you,make this arrangement work for,and your children in your own way..
Not the other way around..

Basically the issue is you need a Clear definate boundary btwn yourself and your ex husband,in regard of family life in relation to him.
so you can move on.

Look after yourself
Eat healthy
Listen to good music
Watch your favorite funny TV shows/stand up comedians.
Do star gazing
Be connect with good,supportive friends/family members
Walk in nature.
Try holistic therapy for e.g hot stone massage etc
Try a healthspa session or adapt spa session at home.
Try mediation its free beneficial 10-15mins good for relaxation stress relief,also well known to help with thinking with Clarity.
Also learn to appreciate small things in life people often take for granted.
DaffodilBrewCakeWine

Take care Op
You are worth it
Also see this as tranisational phrase in your life to discover your yourself again,having got losed your identity being a wife and mother,
This is a new adventure which feels like the unknown a bit scarey, but also exciting too.
Also look at any new interests or courses/workshops you are curious interested about?

Also look into why you are being so accomadating to your ex husband ?is this cause you are just confused cause of the emotional upheaval or is there more to it?are you far too much of a people pleaser who certain people have taken advantage of your good nature etc.
If it is reason too
Explore,find out about different kinds of therapies and their theories to help you find out why you are like this/allow it?,and how to change this kind of mindset?such as it cause of shit childhood experiences or etc or combo of both?.
Counselling can be free too

Lozzerbmc · 18/12/2020 02:25

Im sorry you’re going through this - its so painful I know but he is making it easier for himself by being in touch and using your support. Dont let him- it will be easier for you if you just communicate re kids only. He doesnt deserve your friendship - dont make it easier for him at the expense of your mental health & wellbeing. He is being utterly selfish (as men often/usually are). Be kind to yourself.

soopedup · 18/12/2020 04:23

He’s dipping in and out and calling all the shots. Cut him off. Don’t let him in your house. If he wants to see the kids, he picks them up and takes them to his house/flat. He doesn’t get to eat with you or see you or talk to you. This is the only way to have any chance to get some respect from him

2020notmyyear · 18/12/2020 04:40

Thanks for the advice it really helps... Apart from the covid comments!!!!
I know what I have to do, but it's so difficult, especially when he's been a massive part of my life. I really didn't see any of this coming..

OP posts:
HomeTheatreSystem · 18/12/2020 04:40

You are unwittingly helping him ease himself gently out of the marriage whilst you alone cope with the shock.

Egghead68 · 18/12/2020 04:48

Cut contact. He can meet the kids elsewhere.

You too, VeryLongWeek.

It will be hard but you’ll regain your self-respect.

Good luck.

Wiredforsound · 18/12/2020 05:02

Don’t make him anything when he comes over. Sit down with him and make formal arrangements. Make yourself much less available. He has the best of both worlds. He is also 100% minimising his relationship with the OW. I would put money on them sleeping together, possibly for months or years. At a minimum he’s having a full blown emotional affair. He is no longer the man you fell in love with. That man no longer exists. If he loved you he wouldn’t have hurt you like this.