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Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Social media stalking?

952 replies

alm23x · 08/11/2020 19:03

Hi, it's my first post here so be kind!! Lol. Also still learning all the abbreviations so go easy on me with your replies 😂

Basically I'm just wondering how much interest your partners / SO's take in your social media posts - whether this be what you share, pictures, statuses, just in general?
For example - how many likes you get, how often you post, who likes your things, who follows you etc.

OP posts:
alm23x · 24/11/2020 16:16

I knew it would be like this and that's why I was so stuck on wanting to plan plan plan before I left, because I knew I wouldn't be able to rely on them for long. I heard arguing last night and I'm assuming it was my situation they were arguing about. Off out for a walk now to blow off some cobwebs as the kids are having tea at my mother in laws and I need out of this house tbh.

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Sassysally12 · 24/11/2020 16:17

Oh OP, I’m so sorry. I know people bashing your mum isn’t what you need but it really is baffling behaviour from her, struggling? You have been struggling for ten years.
I’m so sorry. After the two weeks temporary housing is up you will technically be homeless so you will be top of the priority list, hang in there. I know it’s not ideal with children but please don’t make that make you go home, it’s far
More easier to hoover you in your own home. He has a key etc even if he stays at his mums he will ‘forget this and that’ so he can pop over or ‘can I pop and see the kids’ etc it just won’t work. Can you speak to the military and see what they suggest? My friend left a member of the army and and they made hun move back to the barracks while she waited for a new home to go through, so it was stricter he couldn’t just pop out and try and go home etc.

I know it’s hard when his grandad has just died, and your mums saying this, but don’t set yourself on fire to keep others warm. This is your life, this will be the making of you and your children’s life xxxx

SeaEagleFeather · 24/11/2020 17:03

I feel like if he's messaging about the kids...me messaging back six hours later when I've decided to check a separate phone or whatever is a bit mean? Maybe I'm being weak, but while he's being amicable shouldn't I atleast reciprocate for the children's interest?

Maybe check it every 2 - 4 hours then. 6 does seem too long.

But it's not about being mean; it's not about emotion and feeling bad at all. It's about being practical, pragmatic and not staying involved.

While he's being amicable (it will almost certainly change) then it's fair enough to be civil. Polite. But not friendly. It's just playing the game more; to you it's not a game, to him it is. Just keep civil no matter what.

Think of him as a customer or client you ahve to deal with that's difficult. You don't have to like them or get involved, but you can work with them for the end goal: sorting out the practicalities and the child care.

AgathaX · 24/11/2020 17:25

Oh love. I'm speechless at your mother's attitude. It truly stinks and she should be ashamed of herself.

alm23x · 24/11/2020 17:40

Still not heard anything about this second house, th estate agents close at six so I'm not hopeful I will hear back tonight now. Will come back on here tonight once the kids are in bed and read all your replies more thoroughly xx

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S00LA · 24/11/2020 17:46

Have you presented as homeless to your local authority ? You should be able to do that where you are now as you have a local connection and you are fleeing domestic violence.

Remember you are ALREADY homeless - you are sofa surfing with family but they have now told you to leave.

Can SAAFA help you with this? otherwise try Shelter or any homeless charity in your area.

As a woman with children you will be top priority and they have to house you. It will be temporary at first.

S00LA · 24/11/2020 17:51

It’s great that the letting agent is trying to help you.

Many landlords can’t take tenant on benefits because it invalidates their insurance. Because if tenants claim HB / UC fraudulently, the benefits agency will expect the landlord to pay back the money . But of course the LL will have already used that money to pay the mortgage / expenses. So they can end up in debt over it.

So it’s quite possible that they want to help you but can’t. Some are also in financial difficulty because of Covid and tenants not paying their rent.

Demand is really high and the supply of housing is decreasing so it’s a tough time to get private rented accommodation. So try every possible option.

MzHz · 24/11/2020 18:02

I agree with contacting the council, the SSFA can support your situation by backing you up if of use, they potentially would be able to help too if you needed a place for a couple of weeks before a council place comes up.

I know people are aghast at your mum.

I’m not surprised at all. There is a reason your conditioned your accept shitty behaviour and not see your own value or self worth....

I was the same.

You are currently homeless

Do not ever go back ‘home’ never again will you share a roof with him.

You can do this. You really can. Get on the phone to the council tomorrow, ring women’s aid police dv unit, anywhere, to get you to speak to someone who can help find you a place to live

MzHz · 24/11/2020 18:05

your conditioned your = you’re conditioned to

FreshFreesias · 24/11/2020 18:12

You are brilliant OP.

Catmaiden · 24/11/2020 18:54

alm, you are doing so well! Register as Homeless, due to DA. You are! And please, please, don't go back to the married quarters you shared with him (I refuse to call it "home", a home is a refuge, a haven from the world, filled with love. Your "home" was none of these, sadly)

Please, take the two week temp accomodation, then let the system help you, becauae you will be priority homeless after the time is up.
And yes to SSAFA, WA, Shelter, try any and every options.

You are a brave woman, and I salute you

SMurphy91 · 24/11/2020 19:45

I haven't read the full thread but that seems a bit much. My DH doesn't use social media much but has got a FB account so is sometimes tagged in photos by other people. If I don't recognise someone who has tagged him or liked the picture I might ask who it is in passing but only because I'm nosey. Sounds more like jealousy/possessiveness in your DHs case. Has he been cheated on before?

SMurphy91 · 24/11/2020 19:46

Oh my goodness I've just flipped the thread and see you are way past asking about social media!! Sorry OP, ignore my last post Blush

RightYesButNo · 24/11/2020 19:57

I hate to say this, OP, but often we go in patterns. You ended up married to a controlling man who abuses you in a lot of ways (even if it’s not physically, which unfortunately, is all some older generations, like maybe your mother, recognize). You seem to have people-pleasing tendencies - he treats you like absolute shite, then you worry if not responding to a text for six hours is too mean? First of all, it definitely isn’t. Believe me, if he gets partial custody, I’m sure he’ll ignore your messages for hours or days, even when he has the kids. And I don’t say that to be cruel, re: people-pleasing, because this is engrained in you and it will take a while to break out of the cycle. And it sounds like maybe this comes from your mother. She seems to be a people-pleaser, too, married to a man she’s either been beaten down by or just can’t stand up to (I think many of us here, if our husband told us someday that our abused adult DC and DGC couldn’t stay with us, would tell him he’s completely in the wrong and to fuck off, not just bow to his wishes). She wanted to please you so told you that you could come stay, she wants to please your step-father so now she’s trying to get rid of you without thinking of your safety, and it seems like never once is she thinking about what’s actually RIGHT in this situation.

People-pleasing is dangerous. It gets women hurt and killed every day. It keeps them in abusive relationships.

Also, we read here every day from women who say, “Oh I can’t possibly say too much to my real-life friends. They have so much going on themselves.” If my friend was trying to leave an abusive relationship, I would want to know everything ESPECIALLY if she was facing homelessness. Let them make their own decisions about how much help they can give; it’s not fair or right for you to decide for them because you’re trying to, well, be a people-pleaser in advance.

But yes, you must make it clear to your mother that no matter what, you are not going back to that house. You may jeopardize your UC claim (I'm not 100% sure of this, I admit), and if domestic violence charities are involved enough that they recommended you take your eldest out of school in order to escape your household, they may determine that returning to your home would be endangering your children. I’m sorry and I’m not trying to scare you; I unfortunately know someone who had this happen, where she tried to leave her abusive husband, made the decision to return when we all begged her not to (no one was angry as I know the average woman tries several times to leave), but then she had an SS case opened against her (when HE was the arsehole, it was all so fucking awful). It was just mad.

Hopefully you get the second house and this is moot, but if not, perhaps consider the temporary accommodation and in two weeks, if you are then unintentionally homeless, then you will jump to the top of the priority list. And please, do NOT let people put pressure on you about how this could stress the children. In the end, this will be less than a month of their lives, versus if they’d had to stay for years and grow up in a terrible household where their dad treated their mum like shite and it would have affected all their adult relationships.

Shutupyoutart · 24/11/2020 22:28

Ive just read the full thread and have to say you are fucking amazing! . You are so strong and you should be really proud of how far you have come in such a short amount of time. You've taken your first steps to a whole new life for you and your kids and you really deserve that life. Im sorry that you arent getting as much support from your mum and sd as you should be. Dont go back. You sound strong but he wont make it easy for you and will try everything in his power to suck you back in. Have you got money? Can you stay in a hotel or something for a couple of weeks or with one of your friends that you mentioned? I hope one of these properties come through for you soon. Hang in there and keep posting on here xx

BlueThistles · 24/11/2020 23:19

I would never forgive my Mother for adding to my and my childrens angst and distress by asking us to move home to our abuser, because it's an inconvenience for her and her DH.Shock When you get your own place OP cut her the hell off Flowers

IPeedInThePool · 25/11/2020 17:29

How’s your day been OP

Hairyhat · 25/11/2020 18:45

Please tell us op. Are you staying strong despite your lack of support. I'm so worried your pathetic DM has convinced you to go back for more abuse.
Sending super strength to you. I know how hard it is.

alm23x · 25/11/2020 21:52

This is going to be long, need to offload so you probably won't make it to the end! I'm really low today, pretty much haven't stopped crying since 3pm. Was given a 24hour counselling number but can't even call because I have no time without the kids ..even now I'm sat on the sofa next to them sleeping on the air bed and I know me crying/talking will wake them. The temp accommodation route is closed for now - due to me not accepting quick enough which is fair enough. It would have been so isolated for the children anyway as it was a house on a random army base a loooong walk away from even a local shop and I don't drive. Imagine the two weeks of December being that lonely - breaks my heart for the children when the run up to Xmas should be so magical. I literally feel like I've ripped their world apart I can't stop this overwhelming sense of guilt about everything. Second house still hasnt got back to me. my mum thinks that I should go back to the house still.....not back to him, him not being there would be the 'rule'. SSAFA and the DA advisor have told me they can't tell me not to..but they definitely advise against it because he has every right to turn up and he will have a key..plus given the suicidal threats and bombarding messages, it could escalate. My mum however thinks as long as he promises Infront of his mum that he will leave me alone..he will stick to it. I want to believe he would, but having people say they are frightened on my behalf of what could happen, makes my stomach turn. Another option is getting an injunction out against him while I'm in the house? But I really need to spend some time researching that. I've had to fill out so many forms and things about what he's done over the years, I can't believe how much it's all escalated and how serious people are taking what I'm saying. I only called SSAFA for financial help and now all of a sudden it's so much bigger than that I feel so overwhelmed. I think i feel guilt about it aswell? I feel guilty telling people (actual professionals/services, not people in my phone) and that I'm doing this to him...how fucked up is that!

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alm23x · 25/11/2020 21:58

Still struggling with the no/limited contact thing. Was told to message him saying "Please can you stop bombarding me now because this is unwanted communication. Your children are happy and safe and you can call them tomorrow morning. Please now allow me some time and space" I sent that at 10am, and he continued to message me 13 times and has called me 6 times...aswell as two phone calls to my mum even though I asked her to not answer. She's decided to set up a "meeting" with her, my stepdad, me, him and his mum on Friday to discuss me going back to the house. I literally feel like a rabbit in headlights and I don't know what to do anymore. Feel like there's just no happy road ahead

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alm23x · 25/11/2020 22:00

Going to call my Doc's tomorrow (apparently they need to be in the loop should I require legal aid) and I'm going to call the council x

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MzHz · 25/11/2020 22:04

Oh sweetheart :(

Have you spoken to women’s aid? Council? You need help to get away from your mum and from your ex

Switch the phone off, or block him temporarily to give yourself some peace.

I’m so cross with your mum. The meeting is absolutely insane. Dont go. Speak to everyone and anyone who is there to help to get you out of this

Do you have any friends you could stay with for a while? Just go off the radar from the lot of them for a few days?

justilou1 · 25/11/2020 22:04

Oh my god, you needs to escalate this with SSAFA. Let them know what your mum is trying to do. He’s dangerous, sweetie.

Sassysally12 · 25/11/2020 22:06

It’s not fucked up, he’s conditioned you to think it was normal at the time and that it wasn’t a big deal. It’s only when you hear other people’s reaction that you think oh wow was that’s big deal then? I feel for
You, I really do. Stay strong, you are doing the right thing although it feels confusing right now. Of course
You are going to be sad, it was ten years of your life. You are grieving for the life you thought you were going to have with him, your going to feel sad and guilty but not as sad as you would feel watching your daughter get into a similar relationship because that’s what she’s spent her life seeing and thinking is normal. You have done so so well,
I’m so sorry you haven’t received the support you need but we are all here. If you contacted the emergency accommodation again and said you were being kicked out of your mums would that make them offer you something again? Hopefully the fact the house hasn’t come back to you yet maybe is a good sign as a flat out no would come back quickly surely (like the first viewing) I have everting crossed
For you, I wrote on this before saying how similar our exes are it’s actually scary and in the end he walked out on me 3 weeks ago and I gave spent weeks sobbing and crying (why?!?!) which I’ve been frustrated by but now I have walised the anxious knot in my tummy has gone, I can post what I like online without comments, I can go to sleep without being accused of dreaming of other men, I can look after my kids without his hostile attitude around making all of us on edge. Write a list with pen and paper, of all the bad points about him, you will be surprised how
Much you actually dislike this man and keep reading it when you feel sad and it soon turns to numbness and anger. Xxxx

MzHz · 25/11/2020 22:06

Sorry, you said you’re calling the council, tell them you’ve left due to abuse, tell them your mum is telling you to leave and you need help. Maybe call shelter too? They’re an amazing organisation and might have additional ideas for getting you moved

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