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Social media stalking?

952 replies

alm23x · 08/11/2020 19:03

Hi, it's my first post here so be kind!! Lol. Also still learning all the abbreviations so go easy on me with your replies 😂

Basically I'm just wondering how much interest your partners / SO's take in your social media posts - whether this be what you share, pictures, statuses, just in general?
For example - how many likes you get, how often you post, who likes your things, who follows you etc.

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nevernotstruggling · 21/11/2020 14:33

Jesus. Actually my exh felt able to bother my mum so I'm sure this guy feels entitled to bother his own mother Sad

ememem84 · 21/11/2020 15:05

Woah

dsaflausdhfiushdfakdsf · 21/11/2020 18:23

OP, I hope you're ok. You're doing absolutely brilliantly.

It's been such an experience for me reading this thread. I had a relationship like this and hearing you describe your feelings makes me want to give you a big hug because I know exactly what you mean.

It was hardest for me in the immediate period after deciding to leave him. I was still in contact with him (error) trying to reason with him and explain why I was leaving. He called me cold as well. It really is live they're reading from the danger manual.

I believed that for a LONG time. I used to replay in my head how distressed he sounded on the phone. I felt like I was a heartless, unreasonable, selfish, crazy bitch.

Naturally, he knew when I was doubting myself and would make sure to capitalise on it.

It's heartbreaking thinking that someone else is feeling like I did then, because it was such a short feeling.

For what it's worth, I'm not a heartless bitch and neither are you :)

You're actually a hero, getting your kids out of that situation.

You're going to continue to doubt and question yourself I'm afraid - you'll compare yourself to women who are physically abused and think you didn't really have it that bad.

You did. Every little thing you've described on this thread is unacceptable. Going back to the original post, monitoring your Facebook activity is unacceptable in itself. Never mind the rest!

You are doing the right thing. Stay strong xxx

dsaflausdhfiushdfakdsf · 21/11/2020 18:27

corrections - like (not live), sh!t (not short) Gin

alm23x · 21/11/2020 20:31

So it was a big long essay, saying nothing that I would think should be secretive. Basically saying that part of her hopes that in time I will change my mind but th other part of her knows I'm doing the right thing for me and the kids...that he doesn't see a future at the moment so she's going to keep an eye on him...that she's been there and knows it's hard..she knows he loves me and he's broken but she can't understand why he's done it to me and why he's like this as a person etc.

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alm23x · 21/11/2020 20:32

Thank you for everyone's replies and messages, I wish I could reply to them all individually but I'm on my phone and it doesn't let me for some reason. I appreciate every single one though xxxxx

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alm23x · 21/11/2020 20:35

@dsaflaus (won't let me copy and paste your username and theres no chance I can remember it lol) thank you for your reply and sorry you had to go through similar! Do you still hear from him or are you zero contact? I'm definitely finding this period harder than actually getting up and leaving him x

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alm23x · 21/11/2020 20:58

He keeps asking me how much universal credit il be receiving...saying he has a right to know what kind of financial stability his kids are going to have...asking how many viewings ive got....best be dog friendly....what school am I gonna send the kids to. Like he has a right to know any of this right now ! He said I'm just being secretive and he's their dad. I just politely said "any information that you need to know, will be passed on to you as soon as anything is set in stone".

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Eckhart · 21/11/2020 22:04

You could tell him you're getting professional advice to make sure the kids will have absolutely everything they're entitled to. He can't really argue with that or make an issue, and it avoids you having to go into details about your own financial situation with him.

Honeyroar · 21/11/2020 22:16

Tell him the CSA and solicitors will tell him what he needs to give you to make sure his children are financially stable and that’s all he needs to know for now. Tell him his days of demanding/ ordering you to tell him things are over.

Daftapath · 21/11/2020 22:20

Just don't engage. Each time you respond encourages him to keep messaging/calling you.

BlueThistles · 21/11/2020 23:52

stop engaging OP. Tell him nothing of your finances. Flowers

REignbow · 22/11/2020 02:51

I agree stop engaging. If you had a separate phone for his communications, then it would be easier to not respond. I mean this in the sense that you would only view/listen to his tripe once or twice a day.

Btw, he has no rights Re: UC....that’s none of his business. He will also have no control, re: CMS as they will calculate what he will have to give you. And, BTW how you spend this and UC, is again none of his business , even if he states he needs to know in regards to the children.

You are doing well, please continue to speak to WA etc, as they will help to reiterate how his behaviour is abusive and coercive.

Weejo39 · 22/11/2020 08:11

Google Gray Rock techniques. Don't engage and certainly don't answer any questions about what your doing, finances etc.

alm23x · 22/11/2020 08:18

Thank you xx thought th hardest part would be leaving, but it's definitely the not responding that's harder than anything!

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alm23x · 22/11/2020 08:20

Already so sick of being here at my mum's 😟 I've got everything crossed for the two viewings ive got tomorrow

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Eckhart · 22/11/2020 09:02

It's such a brief period, this, Alm, even if it's for a few weeks.

You've sort of got yourself out of being trapped in a big well, and landed in a puddle! It's still not nice, but you're headed in the right direction.

Keep your eyes on the prize... imagine you and the kids in your own place, all peaceful and free, money all sorted, your self esteem sitting on a happy little cloud, smiling....

alm23x · 22/11/2020 09:21

That's a good way to look at it. They keep asking me to consider going back "home" while I look for somewhere but they don't understand that if I do that, il never get back out and I'd have to stop my UC claim (I think). They're being lovely having me here, it's just not a very child friendly house and my SD is definitely NOT used to the noise 😂

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BlueThistles · 22/11/2020 09:33

They keep asking me to consider going back "home" while I look for somewhere

oh no OP 😱 they cannot be serious....

Daftapath · 22/11/2020 09:39

It is hard not to respond because you have been trained for years to jump to his whims and always placate him.

The first time I ignored an email/message from my (at the time) stbxh I nearly had a panic attack because I had never done it before and I was worried it would make him worse. By then though, I had realised that no matter what I said, I couldn't placate him or make him be reasonable in his behaviour towards me. After a while it became freeing and I didn't jump and dread each message in case it was him. My dcs are teens now so I have no need to communicate with him much at all but I still, three years on, very occasionally have a feeling of dread when I receive a text message in case it is from him.

You are right to avoid going back. Don't let others minimise what you went through and what he is like. You are doing so well.

Fefifofaff · 22/11/2020 09:59

Tell your mother if you go back she will never see you or the GC again. Because he will never let you out of his sight, and view your mother as his enemy.

Eckhart · 22/11/2020 10:11

They keep asking me to consider going back "home" while I look for somewhere

FFS. Last thing you need is pressure from that angle.

Have you said bluntly to your Mum 'You are suggesting that I volunteer myself for further abuse.' It sounds like you need to spell it out, although how she doesn't already get it is beyond me.

Although... didn't you say upthread that their relationship is unhealthy, too? Not to judge them, but it sounds like your Mum doesn't know how to set boundaries.

MzHz · 22/11/2020 10:35

I’ve just come to this.

I left a man similar to yours 10 years ago

Things were hard at times, but in days I saw improvements in my dc. Mn helped me through all the psychological stuff and gave me strength

Lean away @alm23x, we’ve got you.

You’re amazing and soon you’ll actually see this.

If you can get another phone, leave the other for him and the flying monkeys it’ll help you get stronger quicker.

RightYesButNo · 22/11/2020 10:50

@BlueThistles

They keep asking me to consider going back "home" while I look for somewhere

oh no OP 😱 they cannot be serious....

Blimey. I have to completely agree with @Fefifofaff, and I don’t think it’s dramatic at all. If you were to return at this point, your husband would be MUCH more controlling and the abuse you face would be worse than ever, and your mum would be on the “forbidden to see” list because she helped you leave once before. I’m very concerned that if you return at this point, the abuse could escalate to physical because he will feel that he must exert the maximum amount of control. Every aid charity will tell you this so please, please listen: the most dangerous time in an abused woman’s life, (and this does not just apply to physically abusive relationships, since you said he hasn’t hit you before) is when she tries to leave. You must keep moving forward now that you’ve gotten this far, you and your children must stay safe, and you cannot go “home.” Your mum unfortunately may be from a generation where quite a few women were taught that if he didn’t “knock you around,” it wasn’t abuse, and this led to so many emotionally abused and coercively controlled women, unhappy households, and damaged children, sadly. You are doing EVERYTHING right, and I understand it is putting some stress on your parents, but in comparison to the rest of both your and their lives, this is such a short period.

Two of us have now recommended googling grey-rocking since he is demanding information from you. I’m guessing you’re busy and don’t have much time so here is a link. It includes six steps to it and at the top of the page, you can click on each of the steps if you need to go to one of them on a certain day: www.healthline.com/health/grey-rock
The most important steps for you are probably:

  1. Offer nothing (don’t give him anything emotionally - no love, no anger - no emotional response of any kind)
  2. Keep interactions simple and short (he goes on a rant about needing to know about UC and what’s best for the kids - you respond in less than one line - “You will be informed when necessary,” and just keep repeating those same words again and again and NOTHING else.)
  3. Tell them nothing. (All information you share, he will use to try to control or manipulate - he doesn’t think like you think, AND he won’t change. So don’t share. See 5.)
alm23x · 22/11/2020 11:27

Thanks for all th advice as usual x have looked up grey rock and I'm trying. It's just hard. Just been reading some stuff by Lundy Bancroft to keep reminding myself that this big show of love and change is NOT real. I know it's not but I can feel my coldness toward him melting ever so slightly. I know il never go back but it's good to keep reminding myself x

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