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Talk some sense into me

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NotThiisAgaiin · 03/11/2020 19:37

20 years ago, in my early 20s, I had a very casual relationship with a guy. It was quite intense, but he could be a bit flaky (this was before mobiles did anything but calls, texts etc). It fizzled out and we went our separate ways.

Both married, both had a child each. By spooky coincidence we passed one another somewhere neither of us would usually go and got talking on Facebook during the summer of 2018. He had divorced a few years prior and had sole custody of his child, who has learning difficulties. I had just separated from my husband and was sharing custody of our child.

We met for coffee, and progressed to a relationship. I’d describe it as intense but casual but he told me he loved me within a couple of months, which frightened me. He had been flakey a couple of times, dropping our plans at the last minute and on one occasion without telling me. He would message regularly and then there would be days go by before there would be contact even though he was on FB regularly. Final straw came when we had arranged a weekend away - planned around his childcare weeks in advance, both looking forward to it etc. The night before he messaged saying he had to go to his parents for a religious celebration, would be odd if he was the only one not there etc. Didn’t answer questions about whether it was an afternoon thing or whatever, whether we could still have the weekend but just go later. I ended up going on my own and feeling like utter shit. He messaged once to say sorry and that he hoped I had a good time anyway. I ignored the message. When I got home he sent a long message saying he had fallen for me and that it scared him. He had a lot on his plate and couldn’t see how he could meet my expectations over time together etc. I had said throughout that I didn’t want a full on relationship as I had a lot on as well. We didn’t see each other again, just the odd friendly message for birthdays etc.

Fast forward to last month. He messaged me for my birthday and we got talking. Again lots of messages back and forth for days. My working pattern has changed since Covid and this offered an opportunity to see one another. This suggestion led to intense messaging over the last 3-4 weeks. I had suggested tomorrow to meet before the lockdown announcement. He was very keen. He hasn’t messaged since Saturday night. No reason I can see. My last message from Saturday and one Sunday morning were seen but no answer. He’s been all over Facebook since.

I’m not putting up with this shit this time round and would rather it stop now than start and end up in the situation I was in in 2018. People make time for the people they care about and I find it exceptionally rude to essentially be ignored like this. Again, I feel shit about myself because of someone else.

There is nothing I can think of that would prevent him from spending 20 seconds to send a quick text - even to say he’s up to his eyes - but spend hours each day on Facebook.

I really want to tell him this, but not quite sure how to, or when. Or, indeed, if. (I know if I say nothing I won’t get anything tomorrow - the day we could have met up.)

Anyone able to talk some sense into me? Please?

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NotThiisAgaiin · 08/11/2020 20:21

@notsurewhattodo22

Don't mean to change the subject but are they still doing spa days / massages during lockdown?
I’m in Wales. Our lockdown ends at midnight tonight.
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SenselessUbiquity · 08/11/2020 21:30

@NotThiisAgaiin, you're doing brilliantly. the 30 day thing will clear your head and sort out the sadness.
I know what you mean about empty Saturdays without texts but you will stop missing him.
I am pretty sure he will regret it when he realises that he has lost you but you must remember why you are doing this and don't be tempted to believe the lovey dovey bullshit he comes back to you with.

In the future, when you have got this eejit out of your system, I think your plan for a "long distance relationship without the travelling" is a very good one - if you pick the right man. I am like you in some ways, I have issues stemming from childhood that have caused me to choose flaky men who won't love me properly. I've done a lot of work around this, some while single and some kind of thoughtfully / experimentally dating (conscious sluttery!) and now I am seeing someone lovely with exactly that sort of set up, which is wonderful. I feel loved for the first time in my life and yet I feel entirely free because I am not in that domestic set up.

You need to get over this arsehole and then you will be free to make yourself truly happy - not just being safe and cautious but doing things that are rich and lovely for you. you deserve it.

NotThiisAgaiin · 08/11/2020 21:35

Thank you @SenselessUbiquity.

He’s such a fucking idiot. I just need to remember that. Oh, and “cock is abundant”. I’ll come back to you when/if I feel like testing that out. Grin

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NotThiisAgaiin · 09/11/2020 10:54

Sat outside the spa now waiting to go in at 11am.

Feeling really bloody lonely today. 😥

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NotThiisAgaiin · 09/11/2020 18:42

So, my skin is glowing and the knots are gone from my neck and shoulders but man I feel sad. Struggled to hold it together today. Couldn’t concentrate on any of my books.

I don’t feel strong or in control at all. I feel weak and pathetic. Again. From such adoration to chucked away without explanation.

No WhatsApp when I turned my phone back on. So clearly he genuinely doesn’t give a crap at all. It/I meant nothing to him. The worm. (Blocked him there now as well.)

I know it won’t hurt forever. But right now it is agony. Can’t talk to anyone about it but here so it’s all just floating round and round my head, tormenting next. Sad

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StrippedFridge · 09/11/2020 19:12

Why can't you talk to anyone irl?

Limeandlemon · 09/11/2020 20:06

Different take on it here.
If you feel like you want to write a ranty text do it but do it and block him. Don’t sit and wait or expect a reply.
I hate all this don’t say anything about bad treatment, just be dignified and move on shit.
So what if he thinks you are desperate. Don’t just shut up so he thinks more of you. Say what you have to say, then block him.
Too many women let guys away with bloody murder.
But make peace with the fact you will not be seeing him again and cut the string or he will be back to repeat the cycle some day and blame his lack of communication of having stuff on his mind or whatever bullshit.
You will meet someone else, reclaim your feminine power and get your mojo back! Keep working on yourself and shape yourself so your past trauma doesn’t rule the roost on your decision making anymore.
Send him that sassy text and get the fuck out of there.

NotThiisAgaiin · 09/11/2020 20:06

I’ve kept it to myself. Both times.

My best friends are spread across the U.K. and we haven’t been able to talk properly since lockdown started in March (home schooling, never a good time etc). Was meant to be going away in a couple of weeks but English lockdown has scuppered that.

I just feel really alone today.

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StrippedFridge · 09/11/2020 20:17

Talk to your friends.

If one of them were going through this and you discovered they'd dealt with it alone because finding the time was awkward how would you feel? Reach out.

NotThiisAgaiin · 09/11/2020 20:19

I can’t. I’m just so embarrassed that I thought it might be different this time.

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NotThiisAgaiin · 09/11/2020 20:22

Right now I just want to scream at him. (I won’t.)

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Lookingoutside · 09/11/2020 20:37

Hi OP. You have nothing to feel embarrassed about. I know how much it hurts and I’m thinking of you.

StrippedFridge · 09/11/2020 22:14

Having a cry and a laugh about it cures an awful lot. Friends won't judge you. No, that's bollocks. They will judge you worse than anyone but your sister(s). Massive judgy pants and they'll say it to your face. With love. The thing about friends is that they will still like you, in fact like you more, for your human side and the chat about it over stupid zoom or on a walk round a park. These ridiculous situations are the things that bind us as friends. When one embarrasses oneself one's two closest friends must be informed immediately. That's just the law. Grin

That book The Big Book of Worries has it right. Let the worries out into the light so they shrivel up.

peppermintteadrinker · 10/11/2020 17:27

Oh @NotThiisAgaiin I've read your thread since yesterday. I'm slightly behind your timeline. I'm in the 'fuck here we go again ' stage. Sad at weekend with suspicion that's where we're at. Today..so angry but want to cry too.

Haven't said a word to him. He's gone quiet. Fucking cruel,selfish, self centred, gutless, weak, cowardly, disrespectful, excuse making, in-denial, unkind, using twat.

SadAngryAngryAngrySad

peppermintteadrinker · 10/11/2020 17:28

You're doing great. You need your friends.mine are still listening to me even though I've fucked up so much

Lookingoutside · 10/11/2020 17:58

Again. You haven’t embarrassed yourself. When you’re a decent, honest and open hearted hearted person you tend to expect the same from others.

You can hold your head up OP and know you did nothing wrong. You’re capable of love and trust and so many people aren’t. Don’t lose that because of this prick.

NotThiisAgaiin · 26/11/2020 14:21

Couple of weeks on now. Mostly feeling better and spending my time productively. Occasionally feel sad or angry, but I just chant this a few times and it dissipates. Wink

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NotThiisAgaiin · 26/11/2020 14:22

Chant this, even.

Fucking cruel,selfish, self centred, gutless, weak, cowardly, disrespectful, excuse making, in-denial, unkind, using twat.

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Lookingoutside · 26/11/2020 18:35

@NotThiisAgaiin

Can I use your chant please?

Glad to hear things have improved. I know how you feel with the moments of sadness and anger x

NotThiisAgaiin · 26/11/2020 18:56

It’s @peppermintteadrinker’s chant. Life-changing. Smile

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peppermintteadrinker · 26/11/2020 19:16

Hahaha... Did I write that? God I need to listen to myself 🤣 Glad you're doing better @NotThiisAgaiin

Lookingoutside · 26/11/2020 20:14

My apologies Grin and credit to you for the chant @peppermintteadrinker

Raver84 · 26/11/2020 22:24

Hi op just want to say I've been through something vvvv similar recently old flame declared his love for me one minute then silence the next. I did confront him about it and he said he'd change, i gave him the benefit of the doubt and he's done it again. Only second time I was a step ahead, yes it Hurt but I was so much better prepared for it and now when it stings I know its not my problem, its his. I'm able to build lovely relationships and he isn't emotionally usual in fact he is very immature in this way
he has decided for whatever reason that I'm not right for him, though that's hard to accept I have accepted it and feel better for it. Move on and up. Plenty more fish in the sea.

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