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Please can I have some outside perspective on this?

114 replies

Mermaidwithoutacause · 09/10/2020 21:52

I can’t see the wood for the trees anymore.
Dh has always been a high earner, he’s always massively out earned me. If I’ve ever been short on money I don’t like to ask him for it and we have no joint finances so currently as a sahm parent I only have access to what I’m given.

When ds was about one and I had come to the end of my maternity leave, that was when I started to really struggle. At that point we had a budget for our weekly - ten days shop of about £120. Dh would give me his card to take to go and do the shop which in itself made me feel awkward because it made me feel like a child.
Anyway I used to find that if I spent the whole amount at once I would end up with some things going off before I went shopping again and also that we needed some things like milk, bread, etc in the interim.
This then came out of the money that I had - the allowance dh gave me.
So what I ended up doing was spending £100 in one go at the supermarket and using the other £20 to put petrol in my car and then I’d use more than that £20 over the next week to ten days buying pits and pieces we needed. Essentially I couldn’t afford to buy petrol plus another £20-40 on food each week and we were also wasting some of the fresh stuff if I bought all in one go.

After a couple of months dh was going through bank statements and demanded to know why I was spending £20 of the food budget on petrol. He was really angry and used words like ‘leeching’ and ‘creaming off the top.’ He said I’d stolen from him.

This reaction - amongst others - has meant I feel totally powerless and as though I have nothing, which I don’t. When I think about it I feel a great sense of shame and embarrassment.

OP posts:
CodyBurns · 10/10/2020 12:56

I was married to a man like this. He kept me literally penniless on maternity leave, I wasn’t even allowed to do the food shop because he wanted to control everything.

I’m sorry to say that it won’t get better and you need to make plans to leave him. Abusive men (and make no mistake your husband is extremely abusive), usually get worse over time.

Mine went from control of finances to eventually monitoring my every move, tracking my car and assaulting me in front of our child.

Please be careful as you hopefully make your plans to be free and live your life happily and independently away from this nasty piece of work.

CalmDown7 · 10/10/2020 12:56

@Mermaidwithoutacause - I’m so sorry this is happening to you, I haven’t read all the responses but a few advise you to leave this man.

Personally, I don’t find these comments helpful. It’s not always about leaving.. it’s about finding a solution in your current relationship regarding the financial abuse.

I’m going through something pretty similar, my OH humiliated me over a mere £5 I spent on groceries for the house and told me it was an unnecessary spend. I felt ashamed and like a small child being told off. I knew straight away this was financial abuse and I’m also looking for ways to deal with it. Leaving isn’t always the answer especially when we have a small child together that I just couldn’t raise on my own.

I hope things get better for you x

movingonup20 · 10/10/2020 13:08

Sorry he's ridiculous. If anyone here reading this is pregnant, or better still ttc, get the conversation on joint finances started now. Whether there's a joint account or money is transferred is the issue, it's thus concept following parenthood that the (usually a) man gets to keep their salary whilst the mother is taking a hit on maternity leave then childcare. Share your money initially, then if you prefer split the discretionary money into separate accounts for personal spending, we didn't bother and had a joint account and still do partially despite getting divorced.

Geppili · 10/10/2020 13:26

This is awful! He is financially abusing you. I wonder if he has a secret spending problem? I wonder if you got access to all his statements and transactions you might discover HE is the one "creaming it off the top".

That phrase must have made you feel absolutely awful and humiliated. It was for petrol fgs probably to chauffeur HIS kids around. You are the mother of his children, not some employee who he can tear a strip off. He sounds absolutely horrible. At best anal, abusive and controlling, at worst all those things AND some secret personal vices.

I would not trust him. Thanks

Alicenwonderland · 10/10/2020 13:33

Echoing others op. He's definitely abusing you, not only financial abuse but emotional abuse by making you feel so awful and guilty when you've done nothing wrong. I'm sure there are other things he does as well that you haven't posted. Please get some advise. You can speak with women's aid who can help you. So many people think abuse is physical but there are many other effective ways of controlling someone as you have discovered. You will definitely be better off financially on your own. 💐

workhomesleeprepeat · 10/10/2020 13:35

@Bluntness100 where did I say it was a legal obligation? Hmm

category12 · 10/10/2020 13:39

It is tho. You do have a legal obligation to support your spouse.

shesgonebatshitagain · 10/10/2020 13:47

I too was once with someone like this
It doesn’t matter how much they earn you will always get a pittance. This is deliberate because not only are they mean they get a thrill of of forcing you to ask for something from them because they are controlling abusive pieces of shit

I left and it was the what thing I ever did. He tries to tell me how to spend my money mane even the maintenance he loathes having to give me. I do not react at all.

If you left him and claimed maintenance and other things you were entitled to as well as your share of the house etc you’d be not only better off you wouldn’t have someone that speaks to you like this to contend with.

Absolutely disgusting

DotForShort · 10/10/2020 16:19

Get a job and get the hell out of this marriage.

janaus50s · 11/10/2020 01:32

You have nothing to be ashamed of. He is the one who should be ashamed.
This is not normal.

Feefifo9 · 11/10/2020 01:40

Adding to the chorus. This isn’t normal. He is being very financially controlling.

VeganCow · 11/10/2020 02:07

Get rid. He will soon realise what creaming off the top
means when CMS assess his maintenance payments, you will be rid of a twat and your standard of living will rise sharply.

feckthis · 11/10/2020 10:29

OP, just catching up but recognise enough so far to know it probably doesn't seem even credible to you that this is 'proper' abuse but all these women can see what you can't ... you are in the middle of this and it's normality for you. But outside that bubble it's as clear as day.

You can go to a lawyer and they won't charge for initial consultation and will normally be ok with being paid afterwards (assuming no legal aid) from whatever you get from him. Get yourself somewhere safe and then get the lawyer to act for you to stop this abuse. It took me about 5 years to get away from my abuser and he's still holding money as a control over me despite divorce etc etc. I didn't believe it even when he was siphoning my inheritance into his bank accounts. Get. Away. From. Him. You can and will do it.

LilyLongJohn · 11/10/2020 21:20

He's financially abusing you op

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