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Husband Webcam hell!

121 replies

Mama2Cubs · 11/09/2020 10:56

Hi all

I’m having a terrible time with my husband at the moment and I can’t find any threads anywhere that mirror my situation. I’m just wondering if this is one of the most absurd things you have ever heard...

So a while back I discovered my husband using WebCam Girls and he told me that he had done it a couple of times and couldn’t explain why. I tried to forgive him and move past it only to discover that he has actually had a year long online affair with one of them. Telling her he loves her and that they are soulmates. He has spent £100s (if not £1000s!) on WebCam sessions and gifts that he has been sending to her. He has also taken out a £10k loan to ‘buy nice things’- or pay for webcams as I expect! He says the affair moved away from the paid webcam sessions some months ago (he even treated himself to a pay as you go phone especially for it!) but he has continued to reward her with gifts. He has kept me in the dark about our financial position and as a SAHM I trusted him explicitly in looking after our families best interests. I have also discovered he has been looking at very extreme porn. He has now left us to live at his parents house and continue this online affair, he has told me that he will do me the kindness of letting me know if it progresses to a real life relationship. He has lied to me constantly for months, gaslighting me when I had suspicions something was going on. The manipulations and emotional abuse is never ending.

I think I’m looking for some reassurance that it is a good thing we aren’t together anymore. It is just hard as we have been together since we were so young and have small children. It’s all come as such a shock!

Thanks for reading! X

OP posts:
EarthSight · 12/09/2020 11:36

Yes. It's a good thing you're not together.

If I were kind, I would say your husband was naive, but if I was being brutal, I'd say he's a pathetic man with a low emotional I.Q. Spending hundreds of pounds like that, thousands on a webcam girl!!!!!!!!!!

Leave him to it. Get legal help and divorce as soon a possible. You can't be financially tied to someone who is this much of a fool. He'll drag you both down.

CoffeeTableBooks · 12/09/2020 11:42

You've definitely done the right thing.

He's an idiot. She'll be having loads of 'online affairs' with men like him.

Heffalooomia · 12/09/2020 12:06

What a nightmare his parents are completely in denial 😳

JovialNickname · 12/09/2020 16:04

I'm so sorry OP and you are SO much better off without him. I would be kissing his mother- nay erecting a commemorative statue of her in my garden - for taking this (literal) manchild wanker off my hands. He's repainting his teenage bedroom so he can spend all day every day fapping off to his fantasy "girlfriend" who is laughing all the way to the bank, you say? Great, let her deal with the abomination that she raised. Not you.

Heffalooomia · 12/09/2020 18:04

*the kindness of letting me know if it progresses to a real life relationship
any progression will surely only be that he pays her even more money if he wants to be in her actual presence, then more if he wants actual physical contact
his parents are happy to facilitate this???
Maybe they are happy to have him trapped in his childhood bedroom so that they have a live in carer in a few years time
they sound kind of sheltered/very naive...

Jeremyironseverything · 12/09/2020 18:11

See a solicitor asap

wedidntstartthefires · 12/09/2020 19:10

Any loans/debts will be considered joint liabilities by a divorce court.
Please get your finances sorted for you and your child sooner rather than later, before he runs up more debt.

Xenia · 12/09/2020 20:42

Yes, take advice from a solicitor. Debts are the sole liabilty of the person whose name they are in ie a lender cannot come agains the wife if the husband has a debt but could come against hte husband's half of a jointly owned home, but in terms of dividing things between the couple the English divorce courts add up all assets and take off all debts no matter whose name they are in (subject to rare cases of binding pre nups) and as a starting point divide in half.

Mama2Cubs · 13/09/2020 13:53

Thanks for all your messages of support. X

OP posts:
QuentinWinters · 18/09/2020 12:45

How's it going op?

Mama2Cubs · 18/09/2020 16:04

Thanks for checking in @QuentinWinters

It gets worse...he thinks she is his...soulmate. 🤮🤮🤮🤮

As far as I know they still haven’t met IRL.

I’m feeling a bit stronger. Starting this thread really helped me. Hearing friends and family saying it was all crazy was fine but I knew they were being supportive of me, hearing 100+ strangers saying how ridiculous it all was felt good.

OP posts:
PeppaPrick · 18/09/2020 16:15

Oh dear, when the penny finally drops he is going to feel like a colossal fool. Whoever she is must be laughing her way to the bank with gullible CLIENTS like him. Hope you are ok, OP.

Dashel · 18/09/2020 16:37

It is a fantasy and he probably won’t meet her in real life as he won’t be rich enough for her tastes and she probably already has a partner or multiple soul mates with loans and credit cards to finance her.

I found it hard to believe that anyone could be so stupid to spend so much but my mum visited a warehouse full of cam girls (for work purposes and she had no idea what it was when she agreed to go there) apparently they make very good money with nice cars and clothes and jewellery they put on when their filming is done. It’s easy money if you are ok with nudity and the morality of it.

QuentinWinters · 18/09/2020 18:13

Its so weird.
My ex had regulars and was constantly telling them how hot the were, how sexy, how much he enjoyed their sessions, they were lovely etc etc (texts were stored on the app he used).
That hurt most tbh and then he said it didn't mean anything, he just didn't want them to think he's an arse.
I was like, hello? You are paying them? They have no thoughts apart from how can they get more cash out of you?
Deluded tossers. But it is awful to realuse your husband can be so shallow and sex obsessed, not to realise these girls don't give a shit.
Ugh

cranberryx · 18/09/2020 18:16

This reminds me of a murder true crime story I heard recently. A man became addicted to cam girls, and got in a lot of debt. Stole from his family etc. He was banned from speaking to the cam girl online, but then went on to murder his family.

He had been speaking to this girl for years. When the police got a statement from her, she was happily married and it was a job to her. Etc. These women literally earn money by making men fall in love with them.

You're better off without your STBXH.
He's an idiot if he thinks his cam girl actually loves anymore more than his wallet.

QuentinWinters · 18/09/2020 18:22

Oh god yes, I read that too,it was awful Sad

ScrapThatThen · 18/09/2020 18:25

Oh god I have known several men do this except with people they met on online games. So bloody immature. One of them is back with wife now - don't be that woman, kick him to the kerb.

Lozzerbmc · 18/09/2020 19:21

How awful but he’ll be back so be ready to get rid of him for good.
Its actually rather tragic what a silly man. Soulmates though they have never met...

bumhead · 18/09/2020 19:47

@JovialNickname

Can I say I love you a bit for your reply on this post. Word for word Op should channel this attitude

Febo24 · 18/09/2020 20:02

Hi!

I wanted to respond to say that I have recently discovered my husband has been webcamming.

It isn't as extreme as this (I hope, although I'm asking to see his bank accounts every month) but it's been devastating and has pretty much put an end to our marraige (I say pretty much because we are living together and not said it out loud, but it is).

My husband has a sex/porn addiction, and I'm from what I have read of your story, I'd hazard your husband is the same. Let's be clear though, although it has a label, the gravity of the betrayal isn't lessened.

It may help you to understand it a bit more if you look it up, look up Paula Hall who's a leading expert in this area. Only when you're ready and if you're interested.

It's so sad though. My whole marriage is tainted by this, and what he engages with has evolved over time and become completely detached from his values.

The first piece of advice I read was that you have to look after yourself first and foremost.

The parents minimising and indulging him is basically him minimising it and gaslighting them too. This version he feeds them is nicer and more romantic than the reality.

It also struck a chord with me that he's getting his bedroom all set up. I remember pointing out to my husband that all he'll be left with is him wanking in his parents loft room. Maybe that is actually appealing to him than dealing with his family!

Take care of yourself, there will be ups and downs but I like to think you'll reflect on this one day and see what a lucky escape you've had.

Xxx

Ps just to echo the others. WHAT A DICK.

Heffalooomia · 18/09/2020 20:59

when the penny finally drops he is going to feel like a colossal fool
yep, and when a man is made to look a fool...

but then went on to murder his family
he has to murder his whole family to make himself feel better

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