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Mixed messages from woman

92 replies

Loodibo · 25/07/2020 21:54

I'm basically confused and not sure how to proceed here.

I met a girl on the match app and we started chatting. I felt like we hit it off quite quick, were getting to know each other and enjoying the chat. Loads in common.
We were texting for a few days almost non stop. It felt like a real click.
So we arranged a date. We had been flirting a fair bit, but she said she had only recently broken up with an ex so wasn't keen to rush into anything, and we were definitely not going to sleep together on the first date. She said she wanted to get to know me first. That was/is totally fine by me.

So we meet. Chatting, enjoying each other's company. Drinking. She says she's over her ex now. She opens up a lot. Tells me secrets. At one point she's in tears about what she's telling me. It's obviously very personal and I'm honoured she feels comfortable to speak to me about it.
Before long things become physical, despite her saying she wouldn't. We go back to mine. We fool around a bit, but don't have sex. She stays over as she's tired and not feeling well from drink.

I walk her home in the morning. She's a bit upset about how fast things went.

After that, we arrange a second date on condition that there is no alcohol and clothes stay on, and we avoid sexual stuff.
So I invite her for board games. It's all good for a while, but then she offers me a massage and leads the conversation to sex again. I was behaving, but as she's opened the door, I'm happy to join in. She very much leads the convo though, and seems to enjoy turning up the heat. She tells me all the things she'd like to try with me.

I feel like, I am happy to wait for her to be ready, and go at her pace, but she's running with it.

So overall, although she is saying she wants to go slow, she seems keen to jump in too.

So anyway. We're back to text the next day. Having a great convo, talking about all the things we can do next time we meet up.
Suddenly, she says she's not into me romantically and just wants to be friends. Still getting over ex. She wants to do the things we were talking about but she's sure she doesn't see a romantic future for us.

So, obviously I'm confused. Blowing hot and cold. I don't know if she really means there is no future or if that is just the feeling today? Despite the mixed messages, I really really like her and think she's really special. I've told her as such too.
So there is also the factor of hanging out as a friend with the elephant in the room of my feelings for her.

OP posts:
Commentutappelles · 25/07/2020 21:56

She either isnt sure what she wants or isnt into you. Maybe do a regular date during daytime that ends at 4 and see how it goes then - take drink and houses off the menu entirely.

Vik81 · 25/07/2020 21:59

Don't do the friend thing. That wasn't your intention at the start and it isn't now. It will be pure torture for you. Sadly she isn't into you, it's time to move on and find that special person that is. You also never know absence makes the heart grow fonder. Go and do other things and you never know she may come back!

PurpleDaisies · 25/07/2020 22:00

Suddenly, she says she's not into me romantically and just wants to be friends

That is pretty clear. I’d just move on. Haven’t you only seen her twice?

Joywillcomeagain · 25/07/2020 22:03

Right this is going to sound brutal but... if you're not sure they're into you, they're not.

I'm sure there will be lots of people who are into you. Maybe just let this one go. Smile

Lochie662 · 25/07/2020 22:08

She's a nightmare

This is your relationship

I don't want anything serious
I don't want to have sex
Oh! I'm over my ex now
Let's introduce some false intimacy
Let's get emotional
Let's fool around
Let's regret fooling around
Let's set boundaries
Let's screw with the boundaries
Let's tease you
Let's go slow
Let's not go anywhere
I'm not over my ex

In the space of two dates. She might be pretty but she is not special. Not right now. Not for you.

Loodibo · 25/07/2020 23:11

It's so confusing. I don't think she's doing it on purpose.
She wants to be friends, and she clearly has some desire for sex. What's the problem? I don't see why the romantic write off.

OP posts:
PurpleDaisies · 25/07/2020 23:16

She’s met you twice. Why are you so invested in this?

Lochie662 · 25/07/2020 23:19

What do you think messing you around on purpose looks like? Seriously? Nobody is outwardly awful, it's too obvious.

She's not thinking or caring about you at all. She might be testing your boundaries. Who knows!

Just let it go, it will do you a massive favour.

sammylady37 · 25/07/2020 23:29

She opens up a lot. Tells me secrets. At one point she's in tears about what she's telling me. It's obviously very personal and I'm honoured she feels comfortable to speak to me about it

Hi op.
From everything you’ve said, I think you’ve dodged a huge bullet.
In particular, the above stood out to me. This is waaaaaay too intense and lacking in boundaries for a first date. In future, you shouldn’t feel honoured if someone does this, you should see it as a red flag and beat a hasty retreat.

SeahorseSaddle · 26/07/2020 00:10

No one apart from me seems to have commented on her feeling so unwell and tired "from drink" that the woman had to stay... but even though she initially told you she wasn't over ex and nothing would happen, she drank a lot(?)/enough to make her inhibitions lower and you thought it was still ok to do "stuff" with her?

Not sure that's actually as ok as you think, she sounds like a very confused and vulnerable person and it would be very easy to accidentally take advantage - which imo I think happened, you weren't thinking of her best interests when you were fooling around were you really?

I'd say don't see her again because you don't want to take advantage of someone who may be very confused and in a place where they could easily be doing stuff, especially with a few drinks in them, that really they wouldn't necessarily be comfortable with sober (i.e: a bit vulnerable just now).

When she was crying and telling you her "secrets" on the first date did it not occur to you that this may be someone who is fragile and maybe not in the best place for a relationship let alone something physical?

Maybe her confusion is why she seems to be giving mixed messages no?

Or maybe she's one of the millions of us women who intentionally set out to cow the menz with our master plan and manipulations on purpose? - obviously I'm being sarcastic

Fijibikini · 26/07/2020 00:12

She’s a mess move on

Lochie662 · 26/07/2020 00:34

If she's vulnerable and not ready for a relationship maybe she needs to grow up , take responsibility for her own mental health and get off of dating apps.

Just because you are vulnerable doesn't make it okay to mess people around.

Iiketoreadeveryday · 26/07/2020 00:40

@Lochie662

She's a nightmare

This is your relationship

I don't want anything serious
I don't want to have sex
Oh! I'm over my ex now
Let's introduce some false intimacy
Let's get emotional
Let's fool around
Let's regret fooling around
Let's set boundaries
Let's screw with the boundaries
Let's tease you
Let's go slow
Let's not go anywhere
I'm not over my ex

In the space of two dates. She might be pretty but she is not special. Not right now. Not for you.

She gives the rest of us a bad name. The tears explains it perfectly (still unresolved issues) Move on
TheGodmother · 26/07/2020 00:55

You don't need the drama this person will bring into your life. It's only 2 dates, be grateful you've missed a bullet, block and move on.

SeahorseSaddle · 26/07/2020 00:56

With so many quick changes of emotional state yes she should take herself off dating apps but just because she's on them doesn't mean someone should take advantage because they can.

The signs for confused and vulnerable were there before they got to the bedroom, it shouldn't have got that far if he was being a decent human being about it, she clearly doesn't know what she wants a decent bloke wouldn't wait till he got his jollies to politely and kindly walk away.

Somethingkindaoooo · 26/07/2020 01:07

THIS is why you don't date someone soon after they've had a break up

Kaiserin · 26/07/2020 01:12

She sounds a bit mad. Personally, I'd pass on that one. You'll just end up hurt and confused (and so will she)

user1481840227 · 26/07/2020 01:13

She is either messing you around or she's vulnerable as seahorsesaddle said.

A pp said that just because you're vulnerable doesn't mean it's ok to mess other people around...and that's absolutely true, however sometimes when people are seriously struggling or just out of something bad they will act erratically and try to comfort themselves with other people when they're not thinking clearly because they're in so much emotional turmoil. She might not necessarily be doing this on purpose, her emotions might be up and down like a rollercoaster right now (as peoples emotions often are after a break up). Some days people feel over it, the next day they're not. Add in some emotional trauma and the person won't know whether they're coming or going.

OnceUponAMidnightBeery · 26/07/2020 01:44

Love to see the replies if the OP was talking about a man...

She’s messing you around, not over her ex and is hoping he’ll come back, or wants you hanging on as a ego boost. Perhaps they’re still in contact and she’s hot/cold with you depending if she thinks he’s coming back or not?

Over sharing to the point of crying on a first date is pretty much a red flag for either sex I would think.

Being harsh, but sounds like you’re her ‘ok for now until ex comes back or something better comes along’ backup.

Please don’t be that person, don’t try and be friends, block her and move on

HollowTalk · 26/07/2020 09:46

I think you should both steer clear of each other. She runs the risk of having sex when she feels she shouldn't. You run the risk of being accused of rape.

Shayisgreat · 26/07/2020 09:53

A general rule I lived by when dating: if someone talks about their ex on the first date, they are not ready to date you. They are just not emotionally available.

She sounds a bit mixed up emotionally and is probably not ready for anything with you. Leave her to it. Be friends if you like but it is very likely that you will become her go to person when she needs someone to boost her confidence rather than as a viable partner.

nolovelost · 26/07/2020 10:30

Sounds like her head is messed up still and just saw you as a confidence boost, sorry. There's no way I'd persue this, you'd just be a rebound relationship.

Crystal87 · 26/07/2020 10:48

She's still into her ex and could be that she's not ready to jump into a relationship yet. Or could be that she's not that into you personally. I think you're best leaving this one alone as it sounds like hard work.

OhCaptain · 26/07/2020 10:51

It’s not mixed messages now though, is it?

You had two dates and she’s told you she’s not into you. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Leave it alone.

Planbforme · 26/07/2020 10:52

What do you think OP?

I couldn’t agree more with this by a PP:

A general rule I lived by when dating: if someone talks about their ex on the first date, they are not ready to date you. They are just not emotionally available

I learned that the hard way too. People hide a lot and it can be quite surprising what they have going on beneath the surface. The amount you’ve been told alone OP should have you running for the hills. Yet I know how you feel — I know what it’s like to fancy someone who isn’t doing everything right but surely you deserve better than these very mixed messages? How are you feeling now OP?