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I've been an idiot, and I don't know what to do now

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PotOfYoghurt · 26/06/2020 10:25

I'm an idiot. An immature idiot who's now fucking up someone else's life. If you read this and can help me straighten my thoughts out or just be someone who listens I would appreciate it. I don't know who to talk to or what to do. I will try and type everything so as not to drip feed.

A year ago I started seeing someone. He was very kind, attentive, a good listener. He apologised when he did something wrong and admitted he was at fault and made sure not to do it again. All good things, I thought.

I think I wilfully ignored all of the bad signs.

We moved too fast, together from the first date. I think looking back now I was so immature with relationships, starved for attention and due to horrendous low self esteem I ignored this typical red flag and chose instead to hope that we would be the exception to the rule, one of the couples you hear about who get engaged after two weeks and are happily married for 20 years.

He still lived at home at 28 and had everything done for him by his mum. I told him that if we were to have a serious relationship and move in together I wouldn't be doing anything like that and that it was very important to me to have an equal partner who took care of their share of things, and that I didn't want to be with a man child.

We moved in together after 6 months. Two months later I got pregnant due to a ripped condom. I took the MAP but must have already ovulated. We talked about me having a termination, but being in my late 20s and having issues with my ovaries and not even knowing if I would be able to conceive and carry a child I decided to continue with the pregnancy.

We've been living together since the new year and there's a regular pattern of him not doing anything around the house, anything, then I get upset and point it out and say it's not good enough and that I told him this wasn't what I wanted in a relationship, and then he gets upset at himself and promises to change and to try harder and he'll do a few things for a few days and then it stops again.

We've just had the same talk. I told him that these things never improve after a baby is born and only get worse, that we've had this conversation so many times but nothing has changed in six months, so how long am I supposed to keep waiting and hoping that things will change? I said that I didn't want to stay together hoping things improve only to break up in another year or so because nothing has changed.

He broke down and cried, and said he doesn't know why he does it and that it's not because he doesn't love me it's because he doesn't love himself.

I know he's struggling with a bit of depression and anxiety, his weight has just been going up and up since he had a bad breakup a few years ago. I suggested he try therapy and he's been going for a couple of months. He also has untreated sleep apnoea which was finally confirmed last week, which I told him he had when we first got together, and he's had blood tests last week to see if there's another reason he's always so tired/mentally fatigued. He said he almost hopes they say he has diabetes so there's a reason for the way he feels.

So I know physically he's not great, and mentally he's not great and that it all exacerbates each other, and I've tried to be patient and not get upset when he falls asleep when we're talking or when he can't remember anything I tell him, even important things, but the reason for his behaviour or how sorry he is doesn't change the effect it has on me, our relationship, and in the future, our child. I don't want my child to grow up and see that modelled as a way of how to behave in a relationship. Whether it's a boy or a girl it will grow up learning how to take care of yourself and how to take care of others.

He has many good qualities. He's very kind, and can be thoughtful and bring me home things I like to eat or flowers. He's gentle, and never raised his voice. He loves this baby very much, and gets very emotional whenever he looks at scan pictures etc.

I said this morning that I can't afford to stay in the UK and be a single parent. At least in London where we live. I've been furloughed since it came in, and I will have to quit my job once the baby is born as it's not something that's possible to continue to do. I have no family in this country. I said that the most sensible option is for me to go back to my home country where I have family support, and to go before the baby is born because no matter how kind he is now, things can always change after a breakup and he would be able to stop me leaving the country if the baby is born here. And then I would be trapped.

But I'm still fucking up this baby's life. It will grow up without two parents. He won't be able to see the baby for a long time after it's born because the borders are closed from CV19. He won't be able to get into the country. And even then, we live on opposite sides of the world with a very expensive flight in between us. He wouldn't be able to be a present father.

I want nothing more than for us to be together, as a family, and for things to work out. There is still, even now, a tiny part of me that is foolishly hoping this will be the catalyst he needs to change and to step up. But if it hasn't happened so far when will it? I feel like a stupid little girl blindly crossing her fingers.

I was stupid to let things move too fast, I was stupid to move in together so fast and to get pregnant so fast. None of this should've happened. I'm so angry at myself for letting myself get into this position. I never thought I would be here. This isn't how I wanted my life to be.

So I've fucked up, and now I've fucked up another human being's life who isn't even born yet. I don't know what advice I'm looking for, I just feel so overwhelmed and so heartbroken, and even if no one replies it was cathartic to write it down.

OP posts:
icansmellburningleaves · 26/06/2020 16:48

Blimey OP you’re being very hard on yourself. Hope you set things sorted 💐

glitterfarts · 26/06/2020 17:25

Go home asap.
You'll want and need your family.
He can move with you if he's interested. You do NOT want to be trapped here for 18 years.
You will hugely resent a man child when dog tired with a newborn.
Low vitamin D. No motivation for basic housework. Bet he's a gamer.

needhandhold · 26/06/2020 17:46

Get on a plane and go. Be with a support system. As somebody who has raised kids without that, do not risk it. You need reliable support. This man is not guaranteed. Go home and then he can step up to the plate. It might be the making of him. He can sort himself out and when the pandemic is over book a flight. Don’t do it for him. Make him do it. If he cares enough he can apply to move over. He’s an adult, let him adult

whiskyremorse · 26/06/2020 17:59

I couldn't get past the fact that he's not finished his self help books about procrastination 😂 I'm sorry it's not working for you but he sounds like a lot of hard work and you should concentrate your efforts on your own health and your baby x

novacaneforthepain · 26/06/2020 18:03

I could of wrote this a few years ago... I'm now (under a different name) regularly asking for advice on how to combat subtle abuse and deal with a fat lazy selfish OH

bibliomania · 26/06/2020 18:12

Fuck it, I'm sick of women having bro fix men. Spend all the time babying him, you won't have much left to baby your actual, you know, baby. Do what works for you and the baby, and it's up to him to save himself and take the initiative to show you he can be a proper parent.

bibliomania · 26/06/2020 18:15

And you haven't ruined your baby's life. I had a baby with Mr Wrong. I just asked that baby (age 12) if she's happy to be alive and she said "Duh'. So on that eloquent and mature note.....

vikingwife · 26/06/2020 18:22

Your opening paragraph says it all - the first positive you mention is how he has the ability to apologise for when he has done the wrong thing. That’s not good. Straight away can tell You’re not in love with this bloke & he doesn’t sound great for you

I would absolutely leave now & have your baby in your home country

vikingwife · 26/06/2020 18:25

Also I am not saying she should restrict access to baby or not arrange visitation for holidays etc... just it will be easier if you can choose what place you’d like to live in in - if you wait you could be trapped in your current area & unable to leave.

Nobody is going to stop a pregnant woman getting on a plane until she is soon to pop I spose (!)

justilou1 · 26/06/2020 18:47

It’s going to be impossible to leave once the baby is born

Icepinkeskimo · 26/06/2020 18:47

Wow there's a lot on your plate OP. If you have time can you both work on the health issues that your partner currently has? Funnily enough three weeks ago I was diagnosed with severe Vitamin D deficiency, and yes it was a relief to be told that, as I had been feeling really ill for months, constantly tired, low mood and emotional and my joints just torturing me. I am now on a mega dose medication and I've just started to feel a little bit like myself again.

If your partner wants to genuinely change and get his act together he needs to get his health issues sorted pronto.

We all have struggles in life, and relationships are never clear cut. I really hope you can work this out.

Emmapeeler1 · 26/06/2020 19:27

Out of interest, what is your job OP? Why do you have to quit it and what will you do for work when you go back home?

I really feel for you living with someone who isnt pulling their weight. It seems quite extreme to move to another country though. What was his response to this ultimatum? Even if you are not right together, I would be heartbroken as a Dad if that happened to me.

Addler · 26/06/2020 19:36

I'm a nanny. My current job is rota based where I live in work in the house for one week on and one week off. I think I'm going to have to quit now though because after I come back from furlough they want to change my hours to work Monday-Friday 24/5, which would be too much for me. It as 5 storey house and when I was there before furlough I was struggling to walk without pain as it was.

Nanny jobs where you take your own child are few and far between, and I wouldn't personally be able to go back to looking after someone else's child when I have my own. If I went home I could get work in either my mum's company or a nursery type setting, I know a few people there.

A couple of months ago when we last talked about this I said I was really struggling and that it wasn't fair on me, that he kept making promises but not following through on them. I said then that I was at my breaking point and that if things didn't change I would leave because I wouldn't stay in a relationship like this. But nothing's changed.

I don't want him to suddenly be perfect. I know it's a learning curve for him. I just want him to actually try.

PotOfYoghurt · 26/06/2020 19:37

Oh dear, name change fail. Idiot.

OP posts:
Hushabusha · 26/06/2020 19:45

You've given him fair warning. You've told him you're at breaking point. He doesn't care. You want him "to actually try" . He isn't trying. What more are you waiting for?
What is he bringing to your life? What would leaving him bring to your life? I don't mean to sound harsh, but I really don't understand the dilemma here. Lazy ass bastard sits around all day while you wait on him hand and foot. You're pregnant. He doesn't care. You want to go home where you'll have a support network.... Why are your bags not packed??

Itsallthedramamick · 26/06/2020 19:46

Am I missing something significant here? Please correct me if I am. But are people really suggesting to leave him and take his child abroad because he can't clean?! OK so it's really annoying that he doesn't help around the house but it sounds like he has a lot of other positive qualities. And if he would be a good father he should absolutely be in the child's life whether you stay together or not. The child's needs should be the priority here and a good father should be a part of a child's life

TooTiredTodayOk · 26/06/2020 20:02

What's he doing to help himself in terms of his physical and mental health?

You have to nag him to phone the doctors, he isn't taking the vitamin D tablets that you've given him despite knowing he's deficient, he's making no attempt to lose weight.

FFS the man can't even finish a self-help book about procrastination.

Even a bomb up his arse isn't going to shift him.

Go home.

If you really want to feel like you've given it your 'best shot', give it 4 weeks, don't tell him what you're doing, just quietly leave him to his own devices, as in, don't ask, remind, cajole, prompt or nag him to do anything, either around the house, or to improve his own health and wellbeing.

Just watch in those 4 weeks what exactly he does do without you on his back. That will tell you al you need to know. I mean, I can tell you now the answer will be he will do fuck all, but I suppose then at least you could say you gave him a chance.

Emmapeeler1 · 26/06/2020 20:04

I was wondering the same @Itsallthedramamick. It just seems a bit extreme and a bit unfair on this bloke. You haven't spoken to him recently about your frustrations before asking on MN relationships for confirmation of what you seem to want to do anyway. Because you could also find work easily in a nursery here or work as a childminder. Why could you not look after someone else's child when you have had your own? You clearly have a talent for it. Where would you live while working for your mum's company? Who would do the childcare? Yes, your DP was living at home at 28 but actually lots of people do now in the UK because the housing market is so hard to get onto. He hasn't been living away from home that long. Maybe I am a soft touch but it just seems pretty early days to be upping ship. Are you sure you don't just want to move home and are finding a reason to blame him? I can understand wanting to be near your mum if she is on the other side of the world but that is another issue.

muckycat · 26/06/2020 20:41

What i am feeling from your post is sheer and utter exhaustion and frustration with a situation he is not making an effort to change. I don't think it matters that this is only cleaning etc.

Look, I have health issues that cause real fatigue. It doesn't mean I can't call the GP, take supplements, push for tests.

I'm sure he's a nice bloke in many ways but don't get yourself stuck here. If things end after the baby is born, you don't know what feelings will be at play and how he will react, whether he will give you authority to leave. Now that isn't an issue.

I would go home. Do it in a nice way, say you need your mum's support and want to see how he gets on with all the stuff he's said he will do. He can visit or even join you for the birth if he acts quickly. Keep things cordial and you can always come back if it feels right.

muckycat · 26/06/2020 20:50

And I don't mean that men shouldn't have equal access to their kids but he can still make that happen. But he can visit, he can sort his life out and make it a viable relationship. Once the baby is born here, there is a risk that you may be stuck. I would take control now. It might even be a big incentive for him.

category12 · 26/06/2020 20:52

It's not "only" cleaning - it's the very real possibility that the OP could end up stuck in a foreign country away from her family and support network.

Fine to spend however long trying to get him to do his share or to sort out his health (and run the very real risk that it's laziness as well) when you're in your own country and have friends and family around you - utter shit to be trapped for the next 18 years far away from anyone who loves you.

CardsforKittens · 26/06/2020 20:59

I said then that I was at my breaking point and that if things didn't change I would leave because I wouldn't stay in a relationship like this. But nothing's changed.

Ok, this is indicative of the relationship dynamics. You told him what you needed. He agreed to do it and then didn’t even try. There’s a lack of respect there which will definitely not improve after you have the baby. All the posters begging you to consider the child’s relationship with his/her father are failing to take account of the fact that this man is already letting the child down by failing to support you, the mother.

The more you post, the more I think the best thing for both you and the baby is to go home, where you will have a support system. It’s always your choice... but I really can’t see your partner stepping up.

Plbrookes · 26/06/2020 21:06

If he's just had sleep apnoea diagnosed and will be receiving treatment I would give him a chance to show that this was the cause of the problem. I went months not mowing the lawn because it felt like trying to climb Mount Everest and after one week with a CPAP machine I was back to being (close to) a normal person!

BrambleJam978 · 26/06/2020 21:12

I'm another one to say a severe vitamin D deficiency can really wipe you out. I got diagnosed with this and after 3-4 months if taking supplements my energy really improved . I still managed to do housework though :-) , so not saying this is all the problem. He should be on a super dose and tell him to go out every day for some time between 12-2pm. Also, I've been told by the doctor to take supplements between october-april every year . Just in case anyone is interested. Sorry for the aside ...

Emmapeeler1 · 26/06/2020 21:14

I'm not begging the OP to do anything, they clearly got together quickly and didn't know each other well enough. Just trying to see it from the point of view of a new parent who is about to have his child moved to the other side of the world, as encouraged by mumsnetters, essentially because he's a bit depressed right now. Just talk to him properly first OP. You might even find he understands you wanting to be near your family.

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