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This isnt a big mistake....right?

116 replies

HeartbreakHotelier · 11/06/2020 08:56

Hello! I am new to posting but not new to reading. I have spent the past five years under what has felt like mental torture - despite being with a really good guy. I have lived in basically social isolation/lockdown mode because of our location. The location was chosen because he wanted to live close to his family. I used to be really active, out and about, loads of activities and mates. Not anymore. Luckily I still talk to my girlfriends on the phone almost every day.

Every time over the years I have tried to talk about moving he has blown up at me, just shouting and swearing and crashing out of the house and leaving. Its made me feel like I dont have a voice. The most confusing part for me has been that this only, ONLY ever happens when I broach the subject of us moving. Otherwise in our day to day, he is very sweet, thoughtful gestures, affectionate, pulls all his weight around the house etc, which is why it has been so confusing and taken me so long to wake up. I told him that I felt like I didnt recognise myself any more and he blew up at me.

Things got steadily worse over the past 2 years. I became anorexic - I'm still not sure why, it wasnt about weight as I've never had a problem with my weight. I also started drinking more. I have felt so isolated and alone, I felt like my personality was dying. I felt like I was slowly dying from the inside out. I then started having intense panic attacks every. Single. Morning. Luckily, something clicked inside me and the past two months I have managed to pull myself back on track. My eating is much better, and I stopped drinking.

Two weeks ago he said to me: "I'm not saying I'll never move. But you need to understand that right now, spending time with my mum is my priority."

I was completely shocked. She is a healthy 60 year old woman who sees all her family every day.

It made me finally see: I'm not his priority, am I?

So I finally decided. After FIVE YEARS. On Saturday I just said: "I'm moving to London." He looked really upset about that but said 'I cant stop you doing what makes you happy. I can't move with you.'.

Since then I have started calling around for flats and I feel so free already. My heart sank a little yesterday morning when he said 'I've been thinking. Instead of you moving fully to London, why dont you get a little studio there and we also keep our house here together, and you can move back and forth between the two?' (my job allows for it). In my head its like - thats just completely benefiting you again, with me again adapting so that your life remains unchanged. Im really struggling to understand his mindset here - in what possible world does he think that would work for me?

I think part of the reason he wants us to keep a home together is sentimental of course, but also because he will find it very difficult to rent a place alone moneywise.

I am sticking to my guns. I am going to tell him that no, that does not work for me, I am moving full time to London and we can see each other every other weekend, end of story. I am regaining some of my confidence and power now. I feel like I've been in lockdown for five years. My mental health took such a toll. This past year, I've been reading Mumsnet and even found threads with similar situations which helped me realise I shouldnt be living like this. I didnt want to post because I knew everybody would tell me to cut my losses and I wasnt ready to hear it. Now Im ready to make my life about me again. I feel so stupid for having wasted five years on losing myself.

At my age (mid thirties) am I making a mistake? I believe he genuinely loves me. But I dont understand why then he isnt making me a priority. I guess it doesnt matter. I guess Im just looking for reassurance and maybe stories of other women who have been in this situation of moving for a guy, or been in the situation of having to leave somebody because they werent being true to themselves, despite how nice the other person was.

I just feel so happy and excited for this next stage of my life - but also a little sad I am walking away from a stable relationship. He says this is a step backwards for us. But I cant wait to get my own place, get back to being busy and going for drinks with friends, etc. I also plan on having therapy so that I can understand what happened, understand the drinking and anorexia problem I had (which really disturbs me). And just trying to silence that voice of doubt now.

OP posts:
strawberry2017 · 11/06/2020 14:11

I would seriously consider your plan to see him at the weekends.
I actually think you need some space to rediscover you, to make friends and to find what brings you joy.
I think you need a clean break and to find someone when you are ready that treats you equally and cares about your feelings.
I suspect the anorexia was a control thing for you, not one you were aware of but the need to feel like you had some control left and something he couldn't actually do anything about.
Good luck OP, have a bright fabulous future! X

Dery · 11/06/2020 14:48

@HeartbreakHotelier

The only big mistake would be NOT doing this. The mother excuse makes no sense at all - she could easily live another 20, 30, even 40 years - do you still want to be in this position at 55, 65, 75!? Having watched your life drift emptily by for decades?

As PP have said, your anorexia, binge-drinking and other problems have probably been triggered by your subconscious screaming at you that your life is on hold while you live a life suited to your partner's wants and needs and in which your own, life-affirming needs are dismissed out of hand.

You've given this relationship your best shot. He may be superficially nice to you but deep down he has held you back and denied you what you needed in order to thrive and it has done you immense harm, apparently while he has looked on with indifference. Indeed, I think it has suited him to see you isolated from family and friends - he probably assumes you are less likely to leave that way.

Definitely move to London. Clearly, it's up to you whether or not you visit at weekends but you may soon reach the conclusion that you need to end the relationship. Apart from anything you will want to spend at least some weekends in London in order to make the most of being there (assuming you don't normally work at weekends). Whatever you do, please don't let him drag you back to your current living arrangements - or anything remotely similar - because they are literally destroying you.

I'm excited for you, OP. Mid-30s is a great age to be making this move - still young and energetic but with some useful life experience under your belt also. Onwards and upwards!

Rockdown2020 · 11/06/2020 15:08

Well done for making the decision to move out and prioritise yourself.

He watched you drink too much and not eat enough and didn’t seem to try to help in any way. Or even just listen to what was making you unhappy. You’ve done a great thing for yourself and I wish you lots of luck with your new place.

ThePollutedShadesOfPemberley · 11/06/2020 18:07

I would do everything you are doing but not the seeing him every other weekend. I would make a conscious effort to gradually fade him. See other men and friends and eventually change my number email address etc.

ThePollutedShadesOfPemberley · 11/06/2020 18:12

You need to find your anger about this OP.

It's a tool to get you where you need to be.

monkeymonkey2010 · 11/06/2020 22:59

He persuaded you to move for his benefit only - he hasn't cared about your feelings or the impact on your general and mental health.
You were falling apart and he didn't care.

Even now he doesn't care about you having a place to feel at home in and be able to build your life in.
He wants to humour you with a 'hobby' flat as he sees it - never mind the cost to you eh?
Like you'd be able to afford a social life with all your money being spent running two properties...and the commute to continue this one-sided relationship.

YOU pulled yourself together - YOU found a way to get out of the hell he dumped you in.
There's only YOU in this 'relationship' who cares about your wellbeing.
He will never make you a priority.

I think you'll find your 'connection' with him just isn't there when you finally get back to being yourself.
Some guys aren't even worth calling a 'technical learning experience'!

Desertserges · 11/06/2020 23:05

You’ve posted about this before, haven’t you? My reaction to reading this was ‘Yes! Yes! Yes! Good call!’ until I got to the bit about you planning to maintain the relationship and see him every second weekend.

That’s your only mistake, OP. This man is selfish and inflexible and watched you turn anorexic, semi-alcoholic and half-dead mentally, rather than consider moving from his preferred spot, quite apart from shouting and swearing when you tried to bring it up. You will compromise your happiness and newfound freedom if you keep seeing him.

Have a great time.in London. Don’t look back.

LellyMcKelly · 11/06/2020 23:20

Well done! A man in his 30s still attached to the apron strings of his mother is not attractive. A bit of space might help both of you.

tenlittlecygnets · 11/06/2020 23:21

Every time over the years I have tried to talk about moving he has blown up at me, just shouting and swearing and crashing out of the house and leaving. Its made me feel like I dont have a voice.

This is not a good guy. This is an abusive arse.

Well done for leaving!

OoohTheStatsDontLie · 11/06/2020 23:34

Hang on you're still planning on seeing him at weekends? This man who was happy to see you live somewhere that you hated so much that it ruined your mental health, just so he could see his mum daily? This man that has made it clear that he gets the final say on big life decisions? This man that when you try and talk about how miserable you were, has a rant at you rather than trying to support you? A man who has openly admitted he puts his mum above his partner of 5 years who has given up everything for him? A man who you suspect may be trying to use you for your half of the rent? He sounds absolutely awful OP and not the right one for you. That is not the way you treat someone you care about. I would guess the anorexia came about as a response to the rest of your life being controlled by him as it was one thing you could still control and the drinking as a method of trying to escape from him mentally. Your panic attacks are your body's way of telling you this is not right. Please, never see him again

Happynow001 · 12/06/2020 01:21

Well done on your wise decision to move back to London OP. I hope you are having success with finding a reasonable place in the area and price range you want.

Just a thought, however. Could you move in with one of your friends (or family?) in London temporarily whilst looking for somewhere more permanent? If so, that might make it easier for you to leave faster, get some emotional support and also be easier for you to arrange viewings for your next home.

I do agree with previous posters about not seeing your "partner" at weekends. That would enable him to continue to try and draw you back into what is, for you, quite an unhealthy and rather toxic relationship. He has already started, hasn't he, suggesting you just rent a studio in London and travel back to him on a regular basis. This is to benefit him far more than you.

I think part of the reason he wants us to keep a home together is sentimental of course, but also because he will find it very difficult to rent a place alone moneywise.

Isn't your second thought here ^^ more likely to be the reason?

I would NOT be open and tell him that you are planning on making the move permanent, until you've physically relocated, as he will just make the process more difficult and try and persuade you to his thinking.

Don't forget, once you've found somewhere else to live, to redirect your mail. You can do that easily on the Post Office website.

If you have any joint finances I'd start untangling them from now and change your personal passwords to your devices and your financial accounts to keep your arrangements private. Do this first and tell him after you have done so.

One more thing OP. Thank goodness you have no children with him as that would make this decision and your future life SO much more difficult.

Good luck for a happier future. 🌹🍷

I think part of the reason he wants us to keep a home together is sentimental of course, but also because he will find it very difficult to rent a place alone moneywise.

Happynow001 · 12/06/2020 01:23

Oops sorry for the extra paragraph. I lost my initial post and had to retrieve it. 😁

SlowHorse · 12/06/2020 01:24

Remember your light bulb moment and look forward to this new chapter in your life!

famousforwrongreason · 12/06/2020 01:42

He only blows up about moving because he has everything else his own way. I'm sure if you started to 'defy' him in other areas you would see more of his temper.
Leave the spoiled little shit to his mummy.

OldWomanSaysThis · 12/06/2020 01:46

Congratulations on getting your life back!!!
Nice job.

Star81 · 12/06/2020 11:48

It’s not enough to survive, you need to thrive. So move and be happy.

CorianderLord · 12/06/2020 12:01

Go to London and break up with him. He's watched you sink into anorexia, unhealthy drinking, panic attacks and loneliness.... and hasn't cared enough to try and change anything.

My DP would lift heaven and earth and move to Mars to make sure I was healthy and happy.

He doesn't love you.

MrsTWH · 12/06/2020 12:12

No, OP - you’re making the right decision!! I would also ditch this pathetic excuse for a partner too. Don’t be travelling up to see him at weekends - use the time to build your life in London. Make new friends, start new hobbies. You might find that a much better partner is waiting for you. Don’t let this abusive arse hold you down any longer.

Good for you, OP!!

differentnameforthis · 12/06/2020 12:22

despite being with a really good guy. No, you don't live with a "really good guy"

Not at all. Your health is suffering because you have been prevented form doing what makes you feel happy (getting out and about) and you are being - at the very least - emotionally abused by the man you live with.

Move to London, and bin him off and watch your mental improve.

differentnameforthis · 12/06/2020 12:23

mental health*

Ihaventgottimeforthis · 12/06/2020 12:28

OP this decision you have made makes you feel free, happy and excited. That is awesome.

You are your priority, well done and best of luck!

gumball37 · 12/06/2020 12:57

Well... Of he can't afford his own place... He can move in with his mom...since that's where his priority is 🤷. I'm not saying his choice is wrong... Just pointing out a solution. (I'd have put my mom before a significant other as well🤷 probably explains why I've been single for so long)

LatteLady · 12/06/2020 13:05

OP, I am 62 and would not want any child of mine hanging around for special time with me when they should be out there living their own lives and making their own memories. Great if you want to see me, but I too, have my own life to lead!

So I just wanted to wish you every happiness in London and if you want to, a partner with whom you can enjoy your life together making your own memories.

Gutterton · 12/06/2020 13:25

You poor thing.

What was your upbringing like? How have you learnt to tolerate and accept such shocking subjugation to stay when your mind and body is screaming at you that you are trapped?

Please leave and surround yourself with your lovely friends who will rejuvenate you - love your life to the full and invest in some good therapy to understand why you believe you are worth so little and to resolve your self esteem.

kenandbarbie · 12/06/2020 13:56

Well done op! You have made the right choice! Good luck with your exciting new London life!