new covid guidelines: is everyone in a non-live-in relationship still not seeing their partner?

[SenselessUbiquity]

Given that there has been no mention at all of social interaction beyond:
1 - meeting one other person outdoors at a distance of 2m
2- in the relatively far off future, being possibly able to socialise in "bubbles" with one other household thus facilitating childcare etc

basically if you are in a relationship with someone whose household or day to day life you do not share, there is no mention at all of when that will resume.

What does that realistically mean in terms of what people are actually doing?

• following the rules to the letter? for as long as it takes?
• saying "fuck it" and meeting indoors and being physically close anyway, in secret?
• somewhere in between?

Please tell me the truth. I won't tell a soul!

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The UK have made a mockery out of this situation.

They really have @PinkMonkeyBird

So what if a person permanently moves in with partner but has to stay in another location for work for eg? Is that allowed ? How do they test the permanency ?

Doing something for work is an exception generally so you can stay away for work, we have contractors doing that for a project I'm working on for my job. And you can have someone in your house if they're working. So you can pay your partner as an escort or a cleaner but they can't be there as your partner. There's so many holes in all of this!

It’s just so stupid - can’t understand their reasoning !

So if partners live apart usually and one moves in permanently with the other , can that one still stay in original house (different city) when he needs to go to work?

So if partners live apart usually and one moves in permanently with the other , can that one still stay in original house (different city) when he needs to go to work?

Hmmmm..... maybe???? I'm guessing they haven't even considered that situation. We have contractors staying for 4 nights a week in an Air BnB type place so that they can fit out our new office, that's ok apparently, but I guess your scenario technically involves 2 homes and I haven't seen that referred to anywhere.

It’s so daft !

They only passed This rule is because the main gov advisor got caught with his piece on the side coming over his house for a shag and now they look stupid!
Unless there is significant risk of transmission
How are they going to catch people ?

Oh yes @dollface19 hadn’t thought of that one !!!!

@Sunnydays123456 this is what it says:
You are not permitted to stay overnight away from the place where you are living for a holiday or similar purpose. This includes staying overnight in a second home. If your work requires you to stay away from home you can do but should continue to practice social distancing.

So technically you can stay away from home for work and it sounds like that includes a second home.

@dollface19 Totally agree! And the Police don't even have the power to go into people's homes to check.

So how can they enforce it ? Is it just a threat ?

From what I read written by one of the lawyers posting on Twitter, they can only do anything if the person is staying overnight, so the Police can only visit you at night, and as they have no powers of entry they can enter the house if invited (so basically the law turns the Police into vampires!). Once inside they can direct the person to return home but can't foreably remove them. If that direction is ignored, then they can fine you. Or you can just ignore the knock at the door and then apparently the Police can shout the instruction through the letterbox but of course they can't prove you heard it. So it's absolutely ridiculous!

*forceably

Omg hahaha vampires !!!!

Also when does overnight start and end ? The law is most definitely an ass! It’s just embarrassing !

Good question!

@Sunnydays123456

What if your partner moves in with you for a week for eg - is that allowed ?

That isn’t allowed. But if you’re partner has had an arguement with a household member, then they can stay with you. And if you pay your partner to clean your house, then they can come around. The rules are ridiculous. Personally we’ve been sticking to them until the other day. But now DD has her partner in the garden, and they hug. Her mental health was declining to the point I was really worried about her. I’ve just ordered a cheap shelter, so they can continue to see each other when it rains. He’s not coming inside at the moment - as I say, I like to stick to the rules, so want to break as few as possible, whilst keeping mental health issues at bay.

Can I just ask on here how many of you are actually breaking the rules and seeing your partners in the house? I'm SO torn, I'm missing him so much, we were supposed to be house hunting later this year (after our now non existent holiday) and I'm tempted but so worried in equal measures!

Yep, back to normal. Both working from home, live near each other. No additional risk.

My problem is he is back at work now and we live 80 miles away from one another....

I'm wfh, one daughter is 18, the other one 13, so both at home with me

@booboo24 I've made plans for DP to come and stay a night while my kids aren't here, in the next few days. Yes it's technically illegal but it's also pretty much unenforceable as no one can prove we are indoors and not in the garden unless they come into the house and the Police have no power to just enter even if someone did call them out!

I've been so torn for ages but I realised I was judging the risk to my kids from having DP come into my home on the premise that there's a real chance he could have the virus. The chances he does are very, very slim. I'll clean everything he touches but the likelihood of contamination from surfaces is low. And the chance of me catching it from him is low.

I'll probably fluctuate between excitement and panic plenty between now and when he comes over but I need this if I'm to be able to keep our relationship going.

@firebrand123 right decision !

If you lived together he could go to work or supermarket and bring it back to your kids