new covid guidelines: is everyone in a non-live-in relationship still not seeing their partner?

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Given that there has been no mention at all of social interaction beyond:
1 - meeting one other person outdoors at a distance of 2m
2- in the relatively far off future, being possibly able to socialise in "bubbles" with one other household thus facilitating childcare etc

basically if you are in a relationship with someone whose household or day to day life you do not share, there is no mention at all of when that will resume.

What does that realistically mean in terms of what people are actually doing?

• following the rules to the letter? for as long as it takes?
• saying "fuck it" and meeting indoors and being physically close anyway, in secret?
• somewhere in between?

Please tell me the truth. I won't tell a soul!

My partner isn’t being careful because Boris says so. He’s doing it because he has a conscience and is worried about spreading something through school to half the neighbourhood (he’s a teacher). We have a plan now, because we both miss each other too much, but it’s cautious and limits the risk of transmission. Regardless of what Boris says we’ll probably continue with our plan until the school hols. I don’t think he’s a ‘beta male’ (What even is that?). He has strong values which he’s sticking to and it’s one of the reasons I love him.

Nicola Sturgeon mentioned couples who don't live together in her briefing today, she acknowledged how hard it must be and also said they are being considered (as in they are trying to work out a plan for them). Unfortunately I don't live in Scotland.

There's hope if Nicola is considering us that Boris will too....

So we can now meet upto 6 people outside

Still not allowed partner in homes

@Cherryghost - fed up now. Time to make my own decisions now. I can have a party in the park but can’t see my long term partner in my house.

Why are we just getting woolly answers about questions about when we might be able to hug people? Just things like "we're not there yet". I have gathered that we aren't there yet, but when will we be? What phase will mixing households be in? I am very fed up too.

The last phase in Scotland according to the routemap. So months away.

So this means the absolute earliest this will change is the end of June The mind-boggles.

Just see your partners anyway. Everyone I know is.

The thinking is, I think, that contact equals possible transmission. And they can't/won't legislate for every circumstance. People just need to weigh risk and make their own choices. I'm just seeing mine as normal.

Make your own risk assessments. Partner works front line for the NHS ? Don't have them over. Partner has home food delivery and works from home? Have them over to stay.

I reckon it will be at least October (when furlough is finished) until we can officially see partners (for the shielders) but maybe August for others.

It's a bit strange that if you are a single person who can have 5 people in your garden and they are allowed in to to the toilet (witty said everything must be wiped down and wash hands) but you can't have your partner in your house

In Scotland you'll be allowed people in your house sooner but still socially distant. Still same way off though

I think we will start doing our own thing from next weekend, we've stuck 100% to the rules but 10 weeks and no mention of any change is getting too much to bear

The difficulty is if you assess having your partner over as low risk but your ex husband wouldn’t return the kids if he thought you were seeing your non live in partner. It’s another way to control you but currently he has the law on his side 😭

This is one of the things I'm worried about @Lockdownbody. If I start properly seeing my DP, rather than just meeting in a park like we did 2 weeks ago (the only time I've seen him), it could start shit with my ex because technically I put our kids at risk by going against the guidelines. It's entirely possible one of my neighbours could tell my ex if my DP comes over here, as he's still in touch with some of them from when he lived here. I can't go to DP's as I can't leave my cat! And he lives in a shared house (shared kitchen only).. he's got his routine for being super careful in the shared space, but going there is definitely a step too far for me.

When I really start thinking about all the ins and outs of this, I get so stressed. I just don't know how to deal with it indefinitely.....

My ex moved his girlfriend and children in at the start of lockdown. All have respiratory issues. He has stopped me going to work or seeing my partner as he refused to return the children until I agreed to his rules saying the comings and goings of the children to his house would put his new family at risk. I really hoped that today would make things easier. I could sob with frustration. Xx

Sorry about the kisses! 😳

Sorry about the kisses!
Hey, I'm not getting any off my DP just now so I'll take them where I can get them ;)

@Lockdownbody, that's so shitty that your ex is able to control you like that, I'm sorry you have to deal with it. Surely he can't stop you going to work now, or seeing your DP outdoors, seeing as neither are against the guidance anymore?

I figured if my ex got shitty I'd just tell him I'd move my DP in then... 😂

@firebrand123 I’m a keyworker so he’s worried about the risk to my kids and his new family. I’m in a no win situation. I really hoped things would get easier today but I’m still stuck.

I'm glad I'm not the only one! The hardest bit is there's not even ANY INDICATION of when we are allowed to see partners again. This is not sustainable. You need to physically touch your partner or it's not a relationship in my eyes. I have stuck to the rules so far, I was initially very judgey but I'm starting to change my tune.

Same here @Medstudent12 we have done everything right, haven't even bent the rules let alone broken them, but i'm starting to think I might have to soon, I don't want to though and was really hoping for some good news yesterday but there's never any mention of it