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This is what I'm writing to his wife after 'lockdown'- any suggestions for tweaks?

433 replies

hewasatwunt · 15/04/2020 22:51

Hi, please don't shoot me. Flowers

I was involved with someone who turned out to be quite dodgy. Some of you will recognized the details- have name changed just in case he views posts under my other usernames.

I think his wife should know about the hundreds of sexual assignations he's had outside marriage. I don't particularly have an axe to grind now, I just genuinely think she should know. She's in her mid 50s, she could choose a different life if she wanted.

Some people on various forums already gave me a lot of help writing this. Do any of you have any other tweaks you can suggest? All names etc have been changed.

Hi Sue, I thought you deserved to know what’s happening.

Bob is constantly seeking opportunities for encounters.

He was having an involvement with me for the best part of 18 months, from July 2018 until January 2020. I blocked him because I realized what he was like. I'm really sorry and won’t interfere in your marriage again.

Whenever he said he was with Fred and me, he was just with me. Sometimes he maybe said he was with us overnight, or gave some other excuse to be away; he was just with me. After I took him back home from his treatment, three times a week, there was some activity involved.

There’s a woman he’s seeing at times at his treatment, called Lucy. Maybe he said he was setting off early before treatment solely to give her a lift. That is not always the case. He also sometimes meets her in the afternoons.

He talks to a woman online called Eve. He has encouraged her to send him explicit photographs and videos. He’s frequently propositioning women online and asking for photos or to meet.

The first woman he mentioned having had an affair with was called Suzie and lived in Blackpool. I think that started at some point while he was studying at Manchester and finished a while after he finished there.

Around six years ago he was seeing Mina who attended the gaming club at the time. At one point they went to a bed and breakfast for a night, I think somewhere up north. His involvement with her lasted a few months.

He is bisexual and also goes to ‘adult cinemas’ where he engages in acts with several male strangers at a time. He’s been doing this for decades and it will have been hundreds if not thousands of men. He does not tend to use protection for his activities there. He tries to get women to go along to the cinema with him to join in with these pursuits, and sometimes succeeds.

There’s another woman, also called Sue, who he’s been involved with at times over the years. He invited her to go to the cinema/swingers’ clubs too. He didn’t mention this woman to me, so it just goes to show that what I’m able to let you know is just the tip of the iceberg.

There’s another dimension to this in that the women he targets or succeeds with tend to be vulnerable, or at a vulnerable time in their lives. He is exploitative, coercive and manipulative. He also lies to get what he wants, including about the nature of your relationship. Some women didn’t give meaningful consent as it was when they were ill, through exploiting their vulnerabilities, or it was given under false pretenses.

Sorry to let you know about all this, but I thought you should be aware.

-Judy.

P.S. If you want more evidence or to discuss this further, you can contact me

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RincewindsLostShoe · 16/04/2020 18:38

Did OP ever report this "therapist" for taking advantage of her and others?

I remember reading a few of these posts.

OP please don't send that letter, yes she deserves to know but as others have said that is a very hurtful letter for the wife to read.

I hope you report this bastard and other than that I think you should step away for your own sake and let him be investigated by the relevant authorities.

Susanna85 · 16/04/2020 19:23

Well I would be grateful to be told of my partner's infidelity. Whether it's out of spite or (hopefully) genuine concern.

I'd want someone to tell me the truth.

simone1863 · 16/04/2020 19:28

What's the other forum I wonder. baddecisions4u.com?

Frankola · 16/04/2020 19:35

Ahhh. So you clearly want to "out" him as you are upset hes been carrying on with others, not just you and his wife?

To say you "aren't bitter" you sound very bitter indeed.

How do you know she isnt already aware of all of this stuff?

You dont.

You have no idea about their marriage.

You are an incredibly selfish person if you feel it's your duty to tear a 50 year old woman's life to bits, and a marriage of decades, just for 18 months of yours.

Grow up. Move on

RainbowsAndReading · 16/04/2020 20:20

I would want it know if it was me. But not the way you've written it, it's incredibly callous and not any remorse from you.

I would admit to your own part in this (no intimate details), apologise profusely and let her know she can contact you if she WANTS to.

I'm very wary about your intent but if it was me I would want to know and be given the option to know more, not have it shoved down my throat when I was completely blameless and unaware.

strawberry2017 · 16/04/2020 20:33

You are still making this all about you. You are trying to make her suffer to make yourself feel better.
I believe she needs to know but not the way you want to tell her.
He's the one that caused you the pain not his wife.
Think about that.

blueshoes · 16/04/2020 20:36

Loving it every time shit and all its variations is mentioned in relation to the OP, literally and metaphorically.

Desolate2nite · 16/04/2020 20:37

Is he in Wales?

Shitsgettingcrazy · 16/04/2020 20:38

The fact that this story gets more elaborate each time, I suspect that OP believe she story is true.

I am guessing the what actually happened is quite far removed from what she posts here.

mathanxiety · 16/04/2020 20:57

I'm going against the general drift here, but I think you should send this to her

She has the right to know.

mathanxiety · 16/04/2020 21:01

Just because two people are shitty and awful doesn't mean a third person should be exposed to STDs.

jojobar · 16/04/2020 21:09

Writing to her is one thing but the OPs motives are questionable AND the tone and detail is not appropriate. She could communicate the message in 2 brief lines, if she has to send it. But part of the reason is to prove how much better she knows him than his wife, and also to make sure of ending their marriage ( probably so that he will go back to her).

Taddda · 16/04/2020 22:19

If this guy is as prolific in his extra curriculas as the OP states chances are his poor wife knows all and this would just be another in a long line of communications received.

If he is targeting vunerable women through his occupation, do him from above- I'm sure the wife has been through enough.

mathanxiety · 17/04/2020 04:09

It doesn't matter what her motives are.

A woman is currently in danger of being infected with STDs by her husband, and possibly by covid-19 if he is continuing his promiscuity regardless of the lockdown.

You can assume nothing about what the wife knows.
There is a well developed subculture of married men seeking gay sex and I would estimate that perhaps 1% of wives even suspect it exists, let alone that their husbands are part of it.

Taddda · 17/04/2020 05:14

You can assume nothing about what the wife knows.

Neither can you, or the op, or anyone.

Does the wife have a right to know, absolutely- does she deserve to receive 'that letter' from the OP (which is dire!) and obviously written with malicious intent, no chance!

If she has met him in a professional capacity as pp's suggested, then gone on to have 'a relationship' alongside all the others he apparently has, out him to his employers or governing bodies- they will be best placed on how to approach this, not the op.

famousforwrongreason · 17/04/2020 05:25

He sounds like someone I know. The wife's age fits. And I'm sure his wife knows. I'd want to know. But this letter is wank.

mathanxiety · 17/04/2020 06:13

Does the wife have a right to know, absolutely- does she deserve to receive 'that letter' from the OP (which is dire!) and obviously written with malicious intent, no chance!

She deserves to know. It's not a hypothetical right. It's a real, concrete issue that the OP can solve by sending the letter.

Telling a professional body would be a solution to another issue entirely, namely his outrageous breach of professional duty. A professional body will not sit the wife down and tell her gently - or at all.

It doesn't matter how the letter is worded or what the (assumed) motivations of the writer are.

The wife needs to be told and it's a matter of urgency. Her husband is jeopardising her health.

mathanxiety · 17/04/2020 06:14

The professional body has no interest and no remit where the wife is concerned.

IndieTara · 17/04/2020 06:38

I don't think OP is coming back

Taddda · 17/04/2020 06:40

Knock on effects of that will ensure she is made aware @mathanxiety - I'm in no way suggesting they 'would sit her down gently', It wouldn't be the right approach anyway, neither would the Op's!

What are you suggesting, she send the wife that letter? What's to say he doesn't just right it off to her as bullshit, 'another obsessed patient' because that's what that letter reads as....

Taddda · 17/04/2020 06:45

@IndieTara I don't think so either Smile.... perhaps in a few weeks with a new user...

Shitsgettingcrazy · 17/04/2020 06:49

It doesn't matter what her motives are.

Of course it does. Because how the wife will be told is dictated by the ops motives.

The wife should 100% know.

That letter is designed to cause maximum hurt and upset to the wife. Its ops way of getting at him. The wife is collateral damage as long as she can cause him problems.

I dont give a shit about him. But if ops motives genubeliy concern for the wife, she could do it without so much detail. She could do it, without causing maximum hurt to the wife. If the wife wants to know more she will ask.

As ever, the outcome of the wife being aware is the the right thing. Op can choose to do in a less devastating way. But wont. Because her motive is to use the wife to hurt him.

Also theres a long complicated reason why she wont go his professional body. That she wont really explain. Either there is not professional body or the story isnt quite what op says.

forrestgreen · 17/04/2020 08:23

I'd want to know but I wouldn't want to know like that. It's out to cause as much damage as possible as opposed to thinking of the wife's feelings.

Sicktiredanddown · 17/04/2020 08:31

I can’t imagine that she doesn’t already know or at least suspect BUT I would 100% tell her. Her health is seriously at risk.

Oliversmumsarmy · 17/04/2020 09:11

Not necessarily.

If she knows she probably isn’t sleeping with him

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