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This is what I'm writing to his wife after 'lockdown'- any suggestions for tweaks?

433 replies

hewasatwunt · 15/04/2020 22:51

Hi, please don't shoot me. Flowers

I was involved with someone who turned out to be quite dodgy. Some of you will recognized the details- have name changed just in case he views posts under my other usernames.

I think his wife should know about the hundreds of sexual assignations he's had outside marriage. I don't particularly have an axe to grind now, I just genuinely think she should know. She's in her mid 50s, she could choose a different life if she wanted.

Some people on various forums already gave me a lot of help writing this. Do any of you have any other tweaks you can suggest? All names etc have been changed.

Hi Sue, I thought you deserved to know what’s happening.

Bob is constantly seeking opportunities for encounters.

He was having an involvement with me for the best part of 18 months, from July 2018 until January 2020. I blocked him because I realized what he was like. I'm really sorry and won’t interfere in your marriage again.

Whenever he said he was with Fred and me, he was just with me. Sometimes he maybe said he was with us overnight, or gave some other excuse to be away; he was just with me. After I took him back home from his treatment, three times a week, there was some activity involved.

There’s a woman he’s seeing at times at his treatment, called Lucy. Maybe he said he was setting off early before treatment solely to give her a lift. That is not always the case. He also sometimes meets her in the afternoons.

He talks to a woman online called Eve. He has encouraged her to send him explicit photographs and videos. He’s frequently propositioning women online and asking for photos or to meet.

The first woman he mentioned having had an affair with was called Suzie and lived in Blackpool. I think that started at some point while he was studying at Manchester and finished a while after he finished there.

Around six years ago he was seeing Mina who attended the gaming club at the time. At one point they went to a bed and breakfast for a night, I think somewhere up north. His involvement with her lasted a few months.

He is bisexual and also goes to ‘adult cinemas’ where he engages in acts with several male strangers at a time. He’s been doing this for decades and it will have been hundreds if not thousands of men. He does not tend to use protection for his activities there. He tries to get women to go along to the cinema with him to join in with these pursuits, and sometimes succeeds.

There’s another woman, also called Sue, who he’s been involved with at times over the years. He invited her to go to the cinema/swingers’ clubs too. He didn’t mention this woman to me, so it just goes to show that what I’m able to let you know is just the tip of the iceberg.

There’s another dimension to this in that the women he targets or succeeds with tend to be vulnerable, or at a vulnerable time in their lives. He is exploitative, coercive and manipulative. He also lies to get what he wants, including about the nature of your relationship. Some women didn’t give meaningful consent as it was when they were ill, through exploiting their vulnerabilities, or it was given under false pretenses.

Sorry to let you know about all this, but I thought you should be aware.

-Judy.

P.S. If you want more evidence or to discuss this further, you can contact me

OP posts:
Walnutwhipster · 16/04/2020 10:46

Again? Give it up and move on. You're obsessed.

AnnUumellemahaye · 16/04/2020 10:49

Augurey I think in the case of serial shaggers and liars like this man, perhaps the wife does deserve to know.

I just don't think that his bitter and twisted ex mistress deserves to be the one to tell her. If that info needs to come out it should come from someone impartial who has the wife's best interests at heart and the OP who wants to cause maximum damage to this revolting man and doesn't care if his wife is collataral damage.

AnnUumellemahaye · 16/04/2020 10:50

and NOT the OP

User12879923378 · 16/04/2020 10:57

It seems clear to me that you just want to hurt everyone involved because you got hurt and you can't get over it.

Sallycinammonbangsthedruminthe · 16/04/2020 11:07

OP do what you want ..but if you think it will make you feel better when you have sent it trust me it won;t. You will still feel the same..the letter solves nothing ...

Spied · 16/04/2020 11:10

Sue will already have a very good idea what he's been getting up to.
She could probably fill you in on a few things to you've missed out.

AnnUumellemahaye · 16/04/2020 11:16

It seems to me that you know his wife and know many of the people who he surrounds himself with, which is slightly odd given that you know him presumably through being one of his clients in his capacity as a 'counsellor'.

Is he actually a properly qualified counsellor recognised by a respected official body or is there some sort of weird cult/religious aspect to this?

AnnUumellemahaye · 16/04/2020 11:16

Cant find previous thread so can't get the full back story

RantyAnty · 16/04/2020 11:22

Is this about the weirdo pseudo therapist guy?

Send it if you want. She may or may not know?

Once you have sent it, then you must forget about this guy. Block on everything and no snooping or detective work to find out what he's doing.

Find something positive to do that doesn't involve men or sex.

The sooner you stop the sooner other parts of your life can fill in.

Make them positive! Hobby, exercise, volunteer service, career, study, garden, art, music, something else besides train wrecks with men.

Quarantimespringclean · 16/04/2020 11:24

What follows next is a wild long shot. It’s doesn’t come from personal experience but on what many people have disclosed to me in my position as a (properly trained and accredited, ethically practicing) counsellor.

I have no way of knowing this for sure but I would be willing to bet good money that the man in this scenario is not accredited to any professional counselling body and probably isn’t a ‘proper’ counsellor at all. He will be a lay official or pastoral worker or untrained cleric in some sort of religious organisation and probably a Christian one. It won’t be be of the major denominations such as Cof E. It will be a smaller group, maybe a local one, which will have less remote central regulation and safeguarding rules and so allows unscrupulous staff (often part time or volunteers) to abuse the power their perceived status gives them over the vulnerable.

As I say this wild guess comes from many, many sad stories I’ve heard of such people (exclusively men IME) misusing the trust placed in them for their own ends. It also explains why his wife will live with it - because she risks being ostracised by the community if she exposes him or leaves him.

dyscalculicgal96 · 16/04/2020 11:24

Why?

dyscalculicgal96 · 16/04/2020 11:26

...And please think about the wife OP.

AnnUumellemahaye · 16/04/2020 11:31

I would be willing to bet good money that the man in this scenario is not accredited to any professional counselling body and probably isn’t a ‘proper’ counsellor at all. He will be a lay official or pastoral worker or untrained cleric in some sort of religious organisation and probably a Christian one. It won’t be be of the major denominations such as Cof E. It will be a smaller group, maybe a local one, which will have less remote central regulation and safeguarding rules and so allows unscrupulous staff

You were reading my mind, almost word for word.

K1999 · 16/04/2020 11:34

I agree with the first comment. Don't be a dick. She's a woman, she'll have her suspicions if she doesn't already know. Just leave them to it. Focus on your own life.

HannahStern · 16/04/2020 11:39

You need to move on with your life. You had little consideration for his wife while you were happily shagging him for 18 months.

This is now getting into bunny boiler territory.

SunshineCake · 16/04/2020 11:44

Honestly that is the biggest load of nonsense I have ever read and I stopped after the first few lines.

Words fail me truly.

GilbertMarkham · 16/04/2020 11:46

My father's OW did that. My parents are still together.

Then your father is a scumbag and your mother is a no send respect idiot; so they're in good company with a "pitiful" reject ow.

GilbertMarkham · 16/04/2020 11:47

*no self respect

KathyBriggs360 · 16/04/2020 11:47

I am honestly flabbergasted at the amount of posts completely eviscerating the OP. Yes she was sleeping with a married man but so what? The man is the one who is supposed to be in a commitment here, it is HIS responsibility to keep true to his vows and barely anybody here has said anything about it. If anything this woman has exposed the man for what he really is and his wife deserves to know the truth about her husband. Honestly, for a forum full of women I would have expected a little more solidarity here, especially as I know that so many of you (like me) would have been victims of men like that.

Please try to think about that next time you call this poor woman all the names under the sun.

AnnUumellemahaye · 16/04/2020 11:50

While I agree with you that it is him who is married and therefore has broken his vows not her, I don't think if you knowingly become involved with a married man you get to take the moral high ground and be the one to tell his wife, dressed up as 'genuine concern' for her.

It's hypocritical, spiteful and disingenuous.

CuppaZa · 16/04/2020 11:50

@RantyAnty, yeah, the one who had shit and rimming fetishes Confused

dontgobaconmyheart · 16/04/2020 11:52

What a load of drivel OP, come on. Stop being so bloody petty and sad and bin that off and get on with your life.

Re: tweaks- all of it is awful and you'll only make yourself look a total joke if you send it. I doubt any of it will be news or change anything. He's a total scumbag, just check your own behaviour and move on. Theres a life to be lived OP, rather than this bloody nonsense.

Poppi89 · 16/04/2020 11:52

So you were sleeping with a married man and didn't care about the wife but then he binned you off and got a different women and now you all of a sudden 'care about the wife' and want your revenge on him because he doesn't want you anymore.

If you had any empathy you would have told the wife as soon as he came onto you.
What are you going to gain by telling her?
Yes she should know - but not by the woman who was sleeping with her husband behind her back.

Honeyroar · 16/04/2020 11:53

I think the wife always deserves to know. I never understand women that say they wouldn’t want to know if their husband was sticking his dick here there and everywhere. But this letter is too long, detailed and emotional. And the OP needs help.

BlackAndWhiteCat01 · 16/04/2020 11:53

OP you weren’t bothered about shitting on Sue for 18 months so let’s not start pretending you’re doing her a favour now.