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Advice and help with my boyfriend's parents please, am I the problem?

85 replies

anonhope · 24/03/2020 12:45

Just for some context: My boyfriend and I have been together for three years since we were 16, and we're 19 now. Our relationship hasn't been without some very rough periods and scenarios, and I have thought about breaking up with him on numerous occasions, but never had the 'final straw' moment. He has tendencies to be quite emotionally manipulative and invasive of personal boundaries, I've raised those issues with him over time and we've worked through most of them, although he does sometimes slip back into old habits. He also has a tendency to react to situations that he doesn't like with threats or manipulation, which, if he ever does now, I tell him that he is doing and he tends to calm down. I would say that he tries his best and that I've grown stronger as a person and I can quickly identify these negative behaviours, so tend to no longer put myself into situations that would trigger these reactions from him.

A lot of our issues, in my opinion, was that I liked my space, I liked spending time on my own, and could go long periods of time without seeing him. I also struggle with social anxiety and I have always found going to his house (his parents') really unnerving and would have to get myself worked up for it. His extended family are a whole other matter, and I've always felt like they find me a bit odd and really don't like me. I could be wrong, but they've never come across as particularly warm or inviting. Therefore, over time I've also come to avoid situations that involve them, I probably see them around once a year, which to me is normal (we're talking about Cousins, Second Cousins and Aunts and Uncles, not Grandparents). His parents have always been nice to me, and (as far as I'm aware) I think that they like me, but they're not particularly expressive and I sometimes think that they behave in ways that they think are appropriate, rather than in a warm or welcoming way. I don't mind them, I do find them to be a bit judgemental and controlling sometimes, but nothing that has ever been unbearable, and they have always made an effort.

The issue: I now haven't seen them since September, and I have a lot of guilt about it. But, I equally can't seem to be able to work out what the issue is. Just for some more context, my boyfriend is at University and lives around two hours away by train from me (I'm still at home with my parents), he comes home during the holidays, but we have gotten into the pattern of him coming and staying at my house for (a few nights or a week at a time) throughout the holidays. We don't really tend to go out or do fun things anymore. I really don't think he minds, he decides when he wants to come and go, I don't put any pressure on him, and honestly he never really invites me round to his house anymore (he knows that I tend to get quite anxious). There has been a few (like three or four) occasions where his parents have asked me out for dinner (indirectly, through my boyfriend) that I haven't been able to attend for genuine reasons, over the past six months. I always feel guilty when I can't go, because I know that they're making an effort, but equally, I always feel a bit annoyed with myself for feeling guilty, because they don't ask if or when I'm free, or ever communicate with me directly (unless they're texting to say thank you for a birthday present or something). They tend to just book a restaurant of their choice for a day that they choose, and then ask me if I can go. I guess it doesn't feel very 'adult' and it feels a bit like it should work both ways. Similarly, I've had a lot going on in my family life over the past six months. My Mum has been pretty ill and has had four lots of surgery since September, and has been off sick from work for the entire period, and has been stuck at home for months at a time. I've been at home with her most of the time, and have essentially been her carer, and ran the house. I also worked over the Christmas period and didn't really have any spare time with that and my mum being in the hospital around Christmas. Honestly, I've felt emotionally drained and like I've not had the energy to put myself into situations that I find anxious, and have probably become agoraphobic.

I suppose I can't work out if I should be feeling guilty or not. I can't work out whether these life circumstances are a reason or a justification, or whether this is a surface-level symptom of a deeper problem, whether with my boyfriend or his family or I don't know what. I know that this can't carry on forever, and I desperately don't want to cause offence because I'm in for the long haul I think, and I can't stand the idea of people not liking me. I could just do with some advice and words of wisdom with this whole issue, about whether this is serious, if I'm being silly. I'm wondering whether the issue could be communication, after all, I don't really know what my boyfriend tells them or how much they know of my current life circumstances. Help and advice, please.

OP posts:
MoMandaS · 24/03/2020 12:49

so tend to no longer put myself into situations that would trigger these reactions from him.

Bin him off. The parents thing is a red herring.

blondehalo · 24/03/2020 12:59

At 19 things should not be this complicated. This is the part of your life where you should be experiencing different things and building up ideas of what you would like in a long term partner. Most people don't stay with their childhood sweetheart. He's making this relationship sound tough and tiring. This should be the best time of your life.

Bin him off and enjoy your space again.

DBML · 24/03/2020 13:03

To be honest it doesn’t sound like much of a relationship.

As far as occasions and meals out are concerned, that’s usually how it works. The family set a date and invite you. I’ve never know my family to back and forth and consider whether I’m available. And especially if you rarely attend anyway, why would they bother?

Once a year to visit his family?
Always staying at yours?
Barely going out?
It doesn’t sound like a two-way street and it doesn’t sound like fun. I’m surprised he hasn’t ended it first.

I think your relationship has run it’s course. 19 and it feels like this.

Op doe yourself a favour. End it. Focus on you and your anxieties. Hey the support you need, so you can dive back into life again.

DBML · 24/03/2020 13:04

Bloody autocorrect....I read back my posts and can’t believe it.

WizzyBee · 24/03/2020 13:08

What @blondehalo said. - get shot of him.

He sounds like a nightmare and you are doing all the compromising to make this realtionship 'work'.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 24/03/2020 13:11

What do you get out of this relationship now?.

You do not need him in your life and you got together with this person when you were a teenager and therefore had no life experience behind you. What happened to you to make you think you and this man are in for the long haul, it’s not working out and it isn’t working out because at heart he is abusive. He being emotionally manipulative and disrespectful of boundaries are two huge red flags that you cannot afford to ignore or minimise. You have your whole life in front of you here, do not waste any more time and effort on this man who treats you abusively. He is not worth all this and you two should not be together now. All he is really doing here is tying you up in knots and dragging you down with him.

Consider too what you learnt about relationships when you were growing up, what sort of an example did your parents show you. Why can’t you stand the idea of people not liking you, where did that come from because that in itself is a problem.

Love your own self for a change, you will thank you own self for doing so.

You are worth more. Do read women who love too much written by Robin norwood.

PatriciaHolm · 24/03/2020 13:11

Well, surely you are not seeing him or them at all now!

And no, it really shouldn't be this hard.

Qgardens · 24/03/2020 13:11

It should be easy at your age. You shouldn't need to work out issues and you certainly shouldn't be walking on eggshells to avoid upsetting him.

viques · 24/03/2020 13:14

no longer put myself in situations that would trigger these reactions

So in the three years you have been together he has taught you to behave/act/respond to things the way he wants you to. He has re programmed you.

While you still have free will you need to decide how you want to live the rest of your life. Potentially the next 50 or 60 years. Do you want to be able to be an equal partner, to have your own opinions, to have a career, to have your opinions respected even if they are different to his, to be able to teach your children self respect and self determination by your example.

Or are you happy to be your boyfriends doormat, to be subservient to his wishes, waiting for the day when he reinforces his disapproval with a fist?

anon25857 · 24/03/2020 13:14

Yeah, I completely get that with setting a date and an invitation by his family. I don't have an issue with that, it's more that I feel guilty when I can't go, but it feels like I shouldn't feel guilty because I'm not organising if that makes sense? I can't help it if they invite me to stuff that I genuinely can't make. I used to see a lot more of his parents, it's only recently that I haven't seen them for a while, but there have been the circumstances above going on, which I don't actually know how much they know about.
It's probably once or twice a year-ish that I see his extended family, again, I used to see them more, but they tended to be not very welcoming, and honestly, my boyfriend avoids seeing them too.
Also, with the going out thing, another point to add is that neither of us can drive, we can't reach each other by public transport, and we both live in pretty rural and cut off areas. That part is just circumstance and makes it difficult to go out. I go and visit him at his Uni sometimes, which is an a big city.
I'm not denying that there are issues, but I adore him and I want to work through them.

Lllot5 · 24/03/2020 13:17

Get rid honestly. I’m worn out just reading it. You’re only 19 don’t settle for this.

h0llygolightly · 24/03/2020 13:19

You are still so young OP, relationships should be fun and exciting. Is this someone you can imagine settling down with for the long run?
Please don't ignore the red flags, his behaviour will not change. Don't feel guilty for something you cannot control or change, my advice would be to take a step back and focus on your anxieties and yourself.
Thanks

anon25857 · 24/03/2020 13:22

@AttilaTheMeerkat

The issue is, that 90% of the time he is so kind and understanding, which makes it difficult. Most of the time we get on so well and he's my best friend. We talk about the future all the time and I'd kind of just accepted that everyone has negative traits, I know that I do, and those are his. I don't know if that's right or wrong.
My parents have been together since they were teenagers and I had a very idyllic childhood. My parents and I are really close. My extended family on my mum's side has a LOT of issues and I have no doubt that the feeling of needing to be liked comes from that side of the family for whatever reason.

DontBe · 24/03/2020 13:23

Your relationship should be fun, enjoyable and exciting. Not you altering your behaviour so you don’t set him off. Can you see how wrong that sounds? Why are you in it for a long haul with someone you’ve though about breaking up with more than once?

Relationships can be so much better than this! You’re 19, it shouldn’t be this hard.

pog100 · 24/03/2020 13:25

You are 19, you have already been tied to him for 3 years, in which you've been tieing yourself in knots for him, and his family.
For God's sake don't waste any more time on him, get out and enjoy your precious young years. He isn't even around that much if he is at uni 2 hours away.

viques · 24/03/2020 13:29

anon

Anon, forget about his parents for a moment. Their relationship with you and yours with them is not the issue.

You say you adore him. But he does not adore you does he? because people who adore each other do not manipulate, threaten, and invade personal space if they know it makes someone anxious. He knows you are anxious, he knows your home situation, but it sounds as though he makes little or no effort to support you, to change his behaviour or even make much effort to keep the relationship going unless it is on his terms.

I realise it is difficult, three years is a long time when you are only 19, but I think you have not given yourself the chance to develop as a person by sticking with this relationship, you have put a lot of effort in to trying to make it work and you are clearly a kind person, you deserve to find someone who recognises that and appreciates your qualities.

Not someone who sounds as though they are using your anxieties and uncertainty to manipulate you and control how you behave.

LovingLola · 24/03/2020 13:31

Please move on from him
This is no relationship

AttilaTheMeerkat · 24/03/2020 13:32

Abusive people are not nasty all the time but the nice/nasty part of the abuse cycle is a continuous one. It matters not that he is nice 90% of the time and how do you arrive at such a figure anyway?. When are you really ever together?. Value yourself more because he certainly does not.

He needs you far more than you need him. You need to find out who you are and what you precisely want out of both life and relationships. You seem stymied by growing up in a very rural area too.

You need to consider carefully what lessons you learnt about relationships when you were growing up.

You do not have to repeat your parents own relationship here even though they met as teens. The vast majority of those do not last in any case.

h0llygolightly · 24/03/2020 13:33

Your self esteem and confidence is more important than your relationship. If you have confidence in yourself and know that you are a good person, you won't need to worry what anybody thinks of you. You are worth so much more than you know, and I think putting this relationship to bed would significantly improve your anxiety. You're so young, you should be having fun and enjoying every moment, don't ignore the red flags. Surround yourself with people who appreciate your company, and give you happiness.

sallievp · 24/03/2020 13:36

Why are you settling for this?
Don't you deserve better?
You are 19 and these should the happiest most carefree fun years of your life.

ElspethFlashman · 24/03/2020 13:37

What do you do for a living OP?

You do sound quite isolated. You talk about agoraphobia and social anxiety. Do you leave the house? Do you have a friendship group?

anon25857 · 24/03/2020 13:43

@ElspethFlashman

I'm on a gap year- I'm going to University in September but I don't know where yet. I was supposed to be going travelling in May but obviously with the current situation that won't happen. I've always been a home bird and an introvert, but I like to get out every now and again, but with my mum, I haven't been as much as I probably should. I've just wanted to be with her. I had a few friends while I was doing A-Levels but when they moved to University I slowly lost touch. I also had quite a traumatic incident when I was 17, where basically, my whole friendship group fell out with me and cut me off, and I've never really recovered from that socially or emotionally in terms of friends.

DontBe · 24/03/2020 13:45

Are you trying to replicate your parent’s relationship by staying with him? Most people don’t stay with the person they were with as a teenager. I’m so glad I didn’t. Looking back now, breaking up with my boyfriend who I’d been with since the age of 16 was the best thing I could have done. It also allowed me to grow up and become confident and independent. I met my now DH a few years later.

anon25857 · 24/03/2020 13:52

@DontBe

Not consciously- maybe I am, I don't know. I've always been really family orientated and like the idea of getting married and being a mum, but I'm also very career-driven and value my independence so often feel caught between these two things. My mum managed to do both- I don't know how. Maybe my judgement is off. I know that most people don't stay in their teenage relationships, and I know that for most people, like you, it works out. I suppose it's just hard when you're in it and can't see which way your life is panning out.

rvby · 24/03/2020 14:04

OP. Come on. This is a farce.

You are a fool to carry on with this guy. Your posts are festooned with red flags. If you have an ounce of sense you will leave it.

You say you love him, sweetheart, love isnt special. You can love anyone if you give it a chance. This guy is just a habit and a familiar face. He can be replaced so much more easily than you suspect.

There are 3.5 billion men in this world OP... there is nothing special about this one

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