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Advice and help with my boyfriend's parents please, am I the problem?

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anonhope · 24/03/2020 12:45

Just for some context: My boyfriend and I have been together for three years since we were 16, and we're 19 now. Our relationship hasn't been without some very rough periods and scenarios, and I have thought about breaking up with him on numerous occasions, but never had the 'final straw' moment. He has tendencies to be quite emotionally manipulative and invasive of personal boundaries, I've raised those issues with him over time and we've worked through most of them, although he does sometimes slip back into old habits. He also has a tendency to react to situations that he doesn't like with threats or manipulation, which, if he ever does now, I tell him that he is doing and he tends to calm down. I would say that he tries his best and that I've grown stronger as a person and I can quickly identify these negative behaviours, so tend to no longer put myself into situations that would trigger these reactions from him.

A lot of our issues, in my opinion, was that I liked my space, I liked spending time on my own, and could go long periods of time without seeing him. I also struggle with social anxiety and I have always found going to his house (his parents') really unnerving and would have to get myself worked up for it. His extended family are a whole other matter, and I've always felt like they find me a bit odd and really don't like me. I could be wrong, but they've never come across as particularly warm or inviting. Therefore, over time I've also come to avoid situations that involve them, I probably see them around once a year, which to me is normal (we're talking about Cousins, Second Cousins and Aunts and Uncles, not Grandparents). His parents have always been nice to me, and (as far as I'm aware) I think that they like me, but they're not particularly expressive and I sometimes think that they behave in ways that they think are appropriate, rather than in a warm or welcoming way. I don't mind them, I do find them to be a bit judgemental and controlling sometimes, but nothing that has ever been unbearable, and they have always made an effort.

The issue: I now haven't seen them since September, and I have a lot of guilt about it. But, I equally can't seem to be able to work out what the issue is. Just for some more context, my boyfriend is at University and lives around two hours away by train from me (I'm still at home with my parents), he comes home during the holidays, but we have gotten into the pattern of him coming and staying at my house for (a few nights or a week at a time) throughout the holidays. We don't really tend to go out or do fun things anymore. I really don't think he minds, he decides when he wants to come and go, I don't put any pressure on him, and honestly he never really invites me round to his house anymore (he knows that I tend to get quite anxious). There has been a few (like three or four) occasions where his parents have asked me out for dinner (indirectly, through my boyfriend) that I haven't been able to attend for genuine reasons, over the past six months. I always feel guilty when I can't go, because I know that they're making an effort, but equally, I always feel a bit annoyed with myself for feeling guilty, because they don't ask if or when I'm free, or ever communicate with me directly (unless they're texting to say thank you for a birthday present or something). They tend to just book a restaurant of their choice for a day that they choose, and then ask me if I can go. I guess it doesn't feel very 'adult' and it feels a bit like it should work both ways. Similarly, I've had a lot going on in my family life over the past six months. My Mum has been pretty ill and has had four lots of surgery since September, and has been off sick from work for the entire period, and has been stuck at home for months at a time. I've been at home with her most of the time, and have essentially been her carer, and ran the house. I also worked over the Christmas period and didn't really have any spare time with that and my mum being in the hospital around Christmas. Honestly, I've felt emotionally drained and like I've not had the energy to put myself into situations that I find anxious, and have probably become agoraphobic.

I suppose I can't work out if I should be feeling guilty or not. I can't work out whether these life circumstances are a reason or a justification, or whether this is a surface-level symptom of a deeper problem, whether with my boyfriend or his family or I don't know what. I know that this can't carry on forever, and I desperately don't want to cause offence because I'm in for the long haul I think, and I can't stand the idea of people not liking me. I could just do with some advice and words of wisdom with this whole issue, about whether this is serious, if I'm being silly. I'm wondering whether the issue could be communication, after all, I don't really know what my boyfriend tells them or how much they know of my current life circumstances. Help and advice, please.

OP posts:
I0NA · 25/03/2020 20:37

So you are not confiding in your parents in case they tell you off and because you are embarrassed. What would they tell you off for ? Being selfish towards your lovely and caring BF? Or putting up with how he treats you?

I think you know perfectly well why you are not telling them , but you find it hard to admit to yourself. I think you have covered up for him, made excuses to yourself and to them, because you know that his behaviour isn’t ok .

You know what they would say if they knew the truth .

Is that right ?

You asked your mum if you were being selfish and she said no. So you know it’s not you.

You say that you know you are not imagining it.

You give lots of examples of where your Bf has imposed his wishes on you and manipulated you into doing what he wants.

Now you fear him turning up when you’ve asked him not to. You are scared of him.

It makes you cry just thinking about it.

Do you think that’s a normal way to feel about your BF?

I think you know that none of this is ok, but you are scared to split up with him. What happened with your friends destroyed your confidence and isolated you. Then everyone went off to uni and you ended up even more alone. Perhaps you feel like he’s all you’ve got ?

He’s been grooming you for the last 3 years to think that is is ok and normal. But deep down you know this is not a healthy relationships, don’t you ? That’s why you are posting here.

Have I got any of this right ?

anon25857 · 25/03/2020 21:32

@I0NA

I think that you've got most of that right.

I0NA · 26/03/2020 00:07

It must be hard to admit that to yourself.

And that’s another step towards working out what you want to do.

Fizzysours · 27/03/2020 06:46

All the women on here want to avoid a nice young girl ending up with an abusive man. Please believe us. We are not being dramatic. THE FATHERS' DAY STORY: HE IS ABUSIVE. THREATENING YOU BECAUSE HE WANTED SHOPPING: ABUSIVE. It is very hard for any woman to realise that her first relationship is abusive, so it was such a good idea to check in with an online community.

What struck me as well is that you had a horrible time socially aged 17. I am so sorry. And because you are a bit isolated generally, you have been unable to talk it through and heal. Could you ask to be referred by your gp for telephone counselling? It could be part of your 'pre university' prep, as I guess you got your A levels last year.

Be prepared, if you end it with your boyfriend, for him to hassle you. The fathers' day story shows he CANNOT respect your perfectly reasonable points of view. My daughters' boyfriends ALWAYS disappear off with their families for mother/ fathers days. Perfectly reasonable!

AlwaysCheddar · 27/03/2020 07:26

Get rid. Easy.

TwoKnocks · 27/03/2020 07:39

OP, I’m 47 and have been with the man who is now my husband since I was 19, so I’m not coming at this with any prejudice against young relationships. The relationship you’re in is unhealthy, your boyfriend is a manipulative prick who is frightening and stunting you and turning you into a cowed, anxious and lesser person. You only stay because he’s trained you, and you’re afraid of change. This is as unacceptable at 19 as at 35 or 70.

Absolutely you should end it immediately, seek counselling, do the Freedom programme, and then go off and make a wonderful new life at university.

FlowerArranger · 27/03/2020 08:19

I know that it might seem as simple as that, but he is really integrated into my life and family, and it's much more complicated than that.

Sigh.

I'm a woman in her 60s who ended her 40+ marriage........ well, for lots of reasons.

How integrated do you think he was in my life? Try to imagine it: my entire adult life, children, pets, shared memories (good and bad), joint property of every description. Can you even begin to comprehend how complicated that was?

And yet I walked away. Because it was the right thing to do. And I am so happy and relieved, and just wish I'd done it years ago.

Be brave!! I promise you: you will not regret it.

Whatisthisfuckery · 27/03/2020 09:38

OP, I know it’s tempting to think we’re a bunch of bitter old women who don’t understand, but we were all your age not so very long ago. I am 38 in a couple of days. 20 years ago I was like you, in a relationship with a suffocating controlling man who trained me to behave in exactly the way he wanted me to. I wouldn’t have believed anyone either, even if they had told me what we’re telling you. I was anxious, socially isolated and thought I’d better get myself a life plan. I did as it happens, and it was an incredibly bad one as it turned out, not entirely to the surprise to those older and more experienced than me I might add.

7 years ago I was trying to leave my marriage to that suffocating controlling man, who by that time had proved to be violent as well. I had a child with him, a house, and because he’d managed to isolate me I had no support network.

I left, but it has taken me until now to get back to anywhere near myself. I’ve been to hell and back trying to undo the damage done to me by that terrible relationship. I gave away what should have been the best years of my life because I felt obligated to be the sort of adult I thought people expected me to be.

You don’t need a plan OP. You don’t need to know how your life will pan out because you’ve barely begun it yet, however, that future you think you need to plan will, in not too many years, be your past, so don’t piss it away tying yourself in knots trying to please someone who doesn’t respect you. You shouldn’t be tying yourself in knots for anyone.

It doesn’t seem easy, but trust me when I say that it is easy now for you to bin off this boyfriend. You are 19, you have everything ahead of you. Don’t settle, you won’t stay settled for long, and what may seem hard now will become a whole lot bloody harder when the responsibilities of adulthood are upon you.

DontBe · 27/03/2020 09:40

@FlowerArranger makes a really good point about integration. You don’t live with him, you aren’t married, no children, no joint account or bills, no pensions or wills. He is someone your parents meet every so often. They may like him (equally they probably don’t), but he’s not actually integrated in to their life. That’s not to sound old and patronising as he’s important to you, but any boyfriend will be part of their and your life for some amount of time.

It’s much much harder to walk away when you have all those things. How many women post on here that they feel they can’t leave because of the children or because they both own the house or because he owns the house and they’ll be left with nothing. Don’t put yourself in that situation because breaking up with him is scary. Don’t marry and have children with an abusive man.

Also, I don’t see him being amicable about it. I think he will manipulate you to stay with him. If he doesn’t respect your personal space then potentially he will turn up the control and manipulation so be careful and talk to you parents. Let them help you.

TwoKnocks · 27/03/2020 11:26

You don’t live with him, you aren’t married, no children, no joint account or bills, no pensions or wills. He is someone your parents meet every so often. They may like him (equally they probably don’t), but he’s not actually integrated in to their life. That’s not to sound old and patronising as he’s important to you, but any boyfriend will be part of their and your life for some amount of time.

It’s much much harder to walk away when you have all those things. How many women post on here that they feel they can’t leave because of the children or because they both own the house or because he owns the house and they’ll be left with nothing. Don’t put yourself in that situation because breaking up with him is scary. Don’t marry and have children with an abusive man.

Absolutely this, as raised by @FlowerArranger and @DontBe.

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