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DP has really upset me (sex)

206 replies

Owleyes16 · 14/03/2020 17:37

NC for this because I'm kind of embarrassed and confused.

Some background: I'm 24 and DP is 30, we've been together for 5 years, lived together for 3, and he's the only person I've ever been with, my first everything. We're generally great, best friends, love each other more all the time, never had any major issues. Sex life is normally great.

We've been TTC 6 months now so this has started to take its toll on me mentally, the last 2 weeks I've been very anxious and upset but I have improved over the last few days and looking forward to trying again. However because of how I have been feeling, and life getting in the way, we haven't had sex for 3 weeks.

Today was going to be the day we got back to it, I started running my bath and we were kind of playing around, and kissing, cuddling, etc. I told him I wanted to wait until after my bath to have sex because I didn't feel clean. Bath finished, I get naked ready to get in and we get a bit carried away, he especially is very excited. Anyway, we end up start having sex and he says "oh you really do smell" and I remind him I did say I wanted my bath first. Annoying, but continue, he didn't say it in a nasty way just matter of fact, and to be fair I did. Then he said a few times about how "wide" and "loose" I am and kept commenting on that and how wet I was. I got really self conscious and stopped, I didn't really know what he meant by that but I just felt awful, it's not a nice thing to say, and I told him that, he apologies, I get in the bath.

Then some time later he comes in with a face on him and tells me that he's sorry for upsetting me, but I have to understand that "as a guy, when you're wide it makes me think that you haven't been faithful". You don't have to tell me how gross that is, in so many ways. I told him how upset I was and how stupid he is, he apologises more, and we've barely spoke since.

He came in the front room a while ago to ask me what was wrong, and upon finding I'm clearly still upset, he said that he can't say sorry anymore than he has and he can't cope with the tension, etc. And I just said yes I know you can't do anything about it now, but it doesn't mean I can't still be upset, that I feel disrespected and insulted. He stormed back off to the bedroom and I haven't heard him since.

I really don't know what to do about this. I don't know how to feel. This is the first time in our relationship I've felt like this, just like he doesn't respect me and won't take responsibility for what he's said, sorry just doesn't feel good enough. I know he's going to try to pretend as though nothing has happened soon, come in and cuddle me and I'll have to forget about it and get on with it, but I don't know if I can let it go. He's accused me of cheating on him, has shown his ignorance re female anatomy, has insulted my biology, made me feel self conscious, etc.

Am I overreacting? How can we move forward from this? Sorry this was so long, I didn't want to drip feed.

OP posts:
picklemewalnuts · 14/03/2020 19:23

So he's also pushing you to have a child before you are ready?

And before you are married? So you have fewer legal protections should you want to leave?

When you finish this it won't be because of his insecurities. Are you sure you know the actual truth of his previous relationships?

Mummyoflittledragon · 14/03/2020 19:23

I’m late 40’s and nothing very much shocks me. But I outwardly gasped at what he said. That’s disgusting.

My question is why on Earth have you agreed to have a baby with him when you are ambivalent about the whole thing? Your love for him will not be enough to carry the relationship especially with a child - babies test relationships in ways you cannot begin to imagine.

You’re young and inexperienced. You have so much time in your life to be tied to someone, who has spoken to you like this. It’s fine if you or anyone else only ever are with one man. However, I’m not sure that this is the man that I’d be wanting to tie myself to for the next 18+ years. Because that’s what being a parent means.

You got together with him when you were little more than a child and I know you’ve had a chorus of ltb. I’d just like to add that time apart from him would be a very good thing because you’re making decisions such as to give him a child for his happiness, not yours. You need to find the adult you, who you are by yourself and you can only do this when you’re not part of this couple. For a while. Try it on for size and see how it feels. Get your boundaries in place and discover what you actually want in life.

moolady1977 · 14/03/2020 19:24

You really do need to walk away from this vile man I had exactly this from an xb he said my vagina smelt of sex and that I was very loose and wet then said is been cheating on him ,things finally came to a head when after a particularly crap day at work he drove me home sat with me while I got changed out of work clothes , Rana bath and as I went to get in the bath he stuck 2 fingers inside me said I was wet and had been with someone at work . Please do walk away

ClientQueen · 14/03/2020 19:25

I would leave
I mean how can you ever have sex and be relaxed with him again? You'll be worrying you're too wet or you smell or...
no. Bye

LouiseCollina · 14/03/2020 19:25

...and I just can't get over how stupid he is! Who even thinks this is how vaginas work!?

Exactly. Male ignorance as to the functioning of female anatomy has got to be one of the unsexiest things on this planet! I remember some fool years ago referring to a woman's vagina as a potential "wizards sleeve" given she'd had enough partners to render her vagina in that condition. He hadn't a clue how to respond when I asked did he assume plenty of female partners reduced a mans penis to a stump?!

Purplecatshopaholic · 14/03/2020 19:25

Just wanted to echo what others have said, and show support for you. Do not have a child with this man (not sure how you could ever have sex with him again anyway - yuck!). You deserve a man who doesn’t need to put you down in order to big himself up. If you stay, this will only get worse

Humina · 14/03/2020 19:25

Oh, he's horrible. Truly horrible. You poor thing.

GilchristQ · 14/03/2020 19:28

@Owleyes16 How old is he?

Marilynmansonsothereye · 14/03/2020 19:30

This man doesnt love you OP.
Have my very first ltb

PeppermintPasty · 14/03/2020 19:31

I’ve had a glass of wine and I don’t drink (though I clearly do tonight) so forgive the bluntness:

He’s thick, he’s rude, he’s a misogynist, he’s insecure (oh boo hoo). In a word-vile.

Emmelina · 14/03/2020 19:31

So you’ve been together 5 years (and I assume sleeping together most of that time). You feel slightly less snug around him one time and you’ve been unfaithful? Is your supposed “lover” built like a tree trunk?🤣

DP has really upset me (sex)
64sNewName · 14/03/2020 19:33

Everything @Mummyoflittledragon said is spot on.

monkeymonkey2010 · 14/03/2020 19:35

He's showing signs of being a classic abuser and you would be wise to cut your losses now and run.

he's the only person I've ever been with, my first everything
So he took your virginity, knows he's the only guy you've been with.....yet dares to accuse you of being a cheat!?????

as a guy, when you're wide it makes me think that you haven't been faithful
This isn't about him being insecure about the size of his penis.
This is about him trying to have power and control over you and your self-confidence and autonomy.
He's training you to stay in your place.
You DARED to assert your right to have sex AFTER your bath - he didn't like it.
He made sure he got sex from you on HIS TERMS, i.e before you could get a bath...and then he deliberately made nasty remarks to make you feel bad and affect your self-confidence.

We're only TTC now because he doesn't want to be "an old dad" by his own definitions. I could wait
What the fuck???? You're choosing to TTC despite not wanting a kid right now????
So HE decides when you have sex and babies?

This is all about Power and Control and using abuse to attain it.
You didn't stand up to him re the bath or the sex or the TTC......and you haven't even noticed that HE is dictating the pace of your relationship and is controlling you.

He's abusing you because he knows you are emotionally dependent on him to a degree....hence you don't stand up for yourself.
Once he has you financially dependent on him (via a baby) he will ramp up the abuse even more.

As you've never had any other relationships or relevant experience to compare this one to, you are unfortunately incredibly naive......and he's deliberately taking advantage of that.

Stop the TTC.....never, ever allow yourself to be bullied/coerced into having babies when YOU are not ready.
It seems to me he targeted you, picked his victim carefully and has been grooming you - that's why he was playing 'nice boyfriend' before.

Now that you're showing signs of being easily led and controlled (bath, sex, babies despite having your own feelings about them), he's slowly dropping the mask.....knowing that you won't stand up to him cos you 'love' him - or think you do anyway.

You're not Elizabeth Taylor, you don't HAVE to marry/have babies with the first guy you sleep with.
The age gap between you would be irrelevant, if it wasn't for the difference in life/dating experience.

To put it bluntly - he has more life experience than you and knows exactly how to manipulate you...and he doesn't care that he's doing it to you.
You don't have enough experience to see this for yourself....and you're too in 'puppy love' to stand up to him properly or even recognize your own autonomy within a relationship.

pooopypants · 14/03/2020 19:35

'Wide' and 'loose' are terms used by men with pencil dicks.

I've had 2 DC, vaginal deliveries, and my DH would never tell me something like that. I mean, my poor vagina has had 2 heads squeezed through it.

Please PLEASE don't have children with this pathetic piece of shit OP, find your self worth

Wannabangbang · 14/03/2020 19:38

What a pig, tell him he has a twiglet dick then chuck his arse out.
Whats he going to say when you've given birth, i hate to imagine what insults he will throw in then. Save yourself some time and don't procreate with this creature

jay55 · 14/03/2020 19:38

You are so young. You really do have time to find the right man for you and create a family, if that is what you want.
You also have time to climb in your career, to travel, to climb a mountain, to learn to waterski, whatever you want to do, on your timetable.

Having a baby with this twazock because he doesn't want to be an old dad, rather than because you are both ready is crazy. Without all the vile things he's said.

I do hope you can find the strength to leave.

monkeymonkey2010 · 14/03/2020 19:39

Oh..and if he doesn't like it wide down there then he shouldn't be dictating that you have a baby.....cos your vagina will change inside and out AFTER you've carried/birthed a child.
Some of my friends never got the 'tightness' Hmm back to the same degree after childbirth, some of them had to refrain from sex for months until their stitches and tears and body healed post birth.

This guy sounds like he will expect you to start having sex the day after you give birth!

Look up graphic images of a woman's body and vagina during pregnancy, birth and post birth and make him have a bloody good look at them....cos THAT will be REALITY......

Aneley · 14/03/2020 19:40

What strikes me as a possible explanation is that this is one of the very few times you've actually been physically aroused, so you felt 'less tight' to him. His comments are absolutely awful, disgusting. You deserve so much better. Please listen to advice you were given here. It is pretty unanimous and that should tell you a lot.

swimmingclubs · 14/03/2020 19:45

Things won't get better, it sounds like he uses his insecurities to manipulate you, He's been cheated on before, blah, blah, it's part of a pattern of manipulation and abuse, to keep you hooked in. No decent person would talk to you that way, it dosen't matter what else he has done that's normal, like looking after you when you're ill. Please get out and don't have a child with him, you deserve to be treated with love and respect.

Pentium85 · 14/03/2020 19:50

A baby rocks and tests even the strongest of relationships, and if yours is now bad, TTC is the worst thing you can do.

Leave him OP, you deserve better

TeaChocKitKat · 14/03/2020 19:52

There are more flags here than at a racecourse. Please don't have a baby with this man.

I'd really be dumping the small cocked bully after that.

Wishihadanalgorithm · 14/03/2020 19:54

LTB

BunnytheBee · 14/03/2020 19:59

If he normally cares for you and then today is the only time he’s been weird I don’t think you necessarily have to leave him but you’re clearly upset OP sob you have to talk about this

alwaysfiltered · 14/03/2020 20:04

This could have been me 10 years ago. I then had Dd1 and he started emotionally abusing me. That later went into sexual abuse. I've name changed now but my comments on this thread were actually used in court as evidence of his abuse. I let it go and let it go and ended up with terrible self esteem and crippling anxiety. I'm not saying leave as only you know the situation but it's food for thought.

Toria70 · 14/03/2020 20:05

Your posts are really sad to read OP.

Every single person who has replied to you has told you that you deserve better - now you need to believe it too.

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