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DP has really upset me (sex)

206 replies

Owleyes16 · 14/03/2020 17:37

NC for this because I'm kind of embarrassed and confused.

Some background: I'm 24 and DP is 30, we've been together for 5 years, lived together for 3, and he's the only person I've ever been with, my first everything. We're generally great, best friends, love each other more all the time, never had any major issues. Sex life is normally great.

We've been TTC 6 months now so this has started to take its toll on me mentally, the last 2 weeks I've been very anxious and upset but I have improved over the last few days and looking forward to trying again. However because of how I have been feeling, and life getting in the way, we haven't had sex for 3 weeks.

Today was going to be the day we got back to it, I started running my bath and we were kind of playing around, and kissing, cuddling, etc. I told him I wanted to wait until after my bath to have sex because I didn't feel clean. Bath finished, I get naked ready to get in and we get a bit carried away, he especially is very excited. Anyway, we end up start having sex and he says "oh you really do smell" and I remind him I did say I wanted my bath first. Annoying, but continue, he didn't say it in a nasty way just matter of fact, and to be fair I did. Then he said a few times about how "wide" and "loose" I am and kept commenting on that and how wet I was. I got really self conscious and stopped, I didn't really know what he meant by that but I just felt awful, it's not a nice thing to say, and I told him that, he apologies, I get in the bath.

Then some time later he comes in with a face on him and tells me that he's sorry for upsetting me, but I have to understand that "as a guy, when you're wide it makes me think that you haven't been faithful". You don't have to tell me how gross that is, in so many ways. I told him how upset I was and how stupid he is, he apologises more, and we've barely spoke since.

He came in the front room a while ago to ask me what was wrong, and upon finding I'm clearly still upset, he said that he can't say sorry anymore than he has and he can't cope with the tension, etc. And I just said yes I know you can't do anything about it now, but it doesn't mean I can't still be upset, that I feel disrespected and insulted. He stormed back off to the bedroom and I haven't heard him since.

I really don't know what to do about this. I don't know how to feel. This is the first time in our relationship I've felt like this, just like he doesn't respect me and won't take responsibility for what he's said, sorry just doesn't feel good enough. I know he's going to try to pretend as though nothing has happened soon, come in and cuddle me and I'll have to forget about it and get on with it, but I don't know if I can let it go. He's accused me of cheating on him, has shown his ignorance re female anatomy, has insulted my biology, made me feel self conscious, etc.

Am I overreacting? How can we move forward from this? Sorry this was so long, I didn't want to drip feed.

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AnotherEmma · 14/03/2020 18:36

Goodness me.
It probably doesn't feel like it now, but in a weird way he's done you a favour.
He's revealed what an arsehole he is before getting you pregnant.
This means you can walk away without any ties to him.
Please do!
And if you're not ready to end it just yet please please use contraception until you've decided what to do.

Iwonder777 · 14/03/2020 18:37

That's so humiliating for you.

Yes please know that's not normal behaviour from a partner

LaCherriesJubilee · 14/03/2020 18:37

I have to understand that "as a guy, when you're wide it makes me think that you haven't been faithful"

He's an idiot. When a woman is fully turned on it's normal for the vaginal walls to pull back in a tent shape ready for sex. Perhaps "as a guy" he hasn't been in the presence of much female arousal...

I agree with the others. Stop trying to conceive. If you can ever imagine yourself having sex with him again, make sure it's protected. He may be older than you, but it sounds like he has a lot of growing up to do.

Bluntness100 · 14/03/2020 18:39

does he have additional needs op? Are you the first woman he’s been with? Is he a member of some strange religious cult?

I can’t get my head round how a thirty year old man would actually think what he said. It’s sickening, but so illogical. there must be something else behind him thinking and saying something so utterly and incredibly bizzare.

AcrossthePond55 · 14/03/2020 18:40

Regardless of whether or not he had made any 'personal comment' about me, ANY man who believed that being 'loose' means that a woman has been unfaithful would be kicked into the next county with a loud "And don't come back".

That idea is positively medieval.

RosesandIris · 14/03/2020 18:40

I can't actually believe what I am reading. Just ditch this sorry excuse for a man. He is vile.

wrinkledimplelover · 14/03/2020 18:40

He was nice to you because he has a nice side. That's great. But his bad side is horrendous. Are you going to live with someone because they can also be nice to you?

He should never speak to you like that.

I agree with him that he can't apologise more though: there isn't a way to apologise for what he's said. Nothing good will make up for it, because not only has he said it, he's not actually that sorry - just sorry you're annoyed/upset with him. You simply can't be remorseful for saying something like he did, it's not a mistake or a slip of the tongue.

SunshineCake · 14/03/2020 18:40

How you move forward is through the door after packing your stuff. He thinks it is okay to say this stuff, have a go at you as you aren't over it in seventeen seconds and he will only get worse.

If he was genuinely sorry he wouldn't be acting as he is.

Leave. He's not all that.

UYScuti · 14/03/2020 18:40

does this mean that when a man has a small penis we can accuse him of cheating on us based on that, like some other woman has gone and shrunk the thing?

Owleyes16 · 14/03/2020 18:42

Everyone whose suggesting he's cheating, I can guarantee he isn't, however he is very insecure at times and I know he's been cheated on in past relationships, I think it's those anxieties more than the possibility of him cheating, I just couldn't believe that, for a lot of reasons.

However, you're all totally right about everything else. We're only TTC now because he doesn't want to be "an old dad" by his own definitions. I could wait. I'm really struggling here because I genuinely can't express how much I love him.

But I know how bad this is. I'm under no illusion here, just struggling to accept it, and I just can't get over how stupid he is! Who even thinks this is how vaginas work!?

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Betty1233 · 14/03/2020 18:42

Absolutely end this relationship .

ThisSistineWontScreamAtItself · 14/03/2020 18:43

I agree with others that what he said was out of order but I would hold going g as far as saying leave him. You mentioned he is conscious about the size of his penis......is he very small in the region? As a guy it's something guys do worry about.

Secondly has he ever done or said anything like this before? Was it a one off? If it's a repeated thing then definitely time to.move on. If it's a random thing I would try talking to him calmly and getting to the bottom of why he behaved that way. I'm not excusing his horrible words and accusations but there maybe a reason.....for example, low self esteem and anxiety.

Are you serious @R2519?!

You don't think that what he said and how he has behaved is a dealbreaker?

To paraphrase you, "as a woman" being spoken to so disgustingly is something women worry about. Rightly so because it's not our job to accept that men's fear of having small dicks justifies them commenting on the size of our vagina as a reflection of promiscuity or monogamy.

Bloody hell.

magoria · 14/03/2020 18:45

Get to the doctor and get yourself on some form of contraception asap.

If you get pregnant you are tied to this dick forever.

How long will your love last if he continually treats you like dirt.

DingleberryRose · 14/03/2020 18:46

I'm really struggling here because I genuinely can't express how much I love him

You can’t express how much you love him and he doesn’t even respect you! The relationship needs to end, immediately. This will escalate, it always does!! Some very, very worrying signs OP!

MagnoliaJustice · 14/03/2020 18:47

Don't stay with him out of pity. Don't stay with him because he's the first man you have loved. Don't stay with him because he is an insulting misogynist with limited understanding of female anatomy. Walk away, with your head held high and never accept second best again. Leave him and his insecurities and bullshit theories and wait for the man who will genuinely be your best friend, your confidante, your no.1 supporter and the father of your children.

Redredwine99 · 14/03/2020 18:47

OP you deserve better

TigerDater · 14/03/2020 18:49

And this is out of nowhere? Makes no sense from any perspective.

Bluntness100 · 14/03/2020 18:50

How can you love a man who says these things to you op? Who treats you like this, makes you feel like this?

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 14/03/2020 18:50

I genuinely can't express how much I love him.

OP, I broke up with someone I loved with my whole being. I was absolutely destroyed by it, I felt like I would never know happiness again.

But we can and do get over lost love, however the break happens. It takes time and patience and grief. But it's not permanent.

But having a child with this hideous excuse of a man would permanently bind you to him. You would never have him out of your life.

Please believe in yourself and the capacity to lose love and get over it - and in your case, have decades of happy love with the right man.

Mordred · 14/03/2020 18:51

He's an unmitigated arsehole, OP.

No man with any respect for you, or indeed for women in general, would ever dream of saying that sort of thing. If a woman is wet and ready, it's a compliment and a real turn-on, and that's how it should be. If he doesn't get at the age of 30 what most men get by 18, he's an imbecilic nincompoop and needs dumping.

seltaeb · 14/03/2020 18:51

Yuck, he is not a catch. Youth is on your side. End it.

wildcherries · 14/03/2020 18:53

At this point, think about what you love about him. Is it the man you believed him to be? He dismissed your reaction and you're feelings of hurt. He left the room in a huff when you told him you're not ready to gloss things over. This isn't loving behaviour. Think about that, too. Good luck.

LouiseCollina · 14/03/2020 18:53

He's accused me of cheating on him, has shown his ignorance re female anatomy, has insulted my biology, made me feel self conscious, etc.

I am so glad you can see all this OP. Some women turn this kind of insult inwards but I'm glad you can see the issue rests with him. Another big red flag here is the way he expects you to suddenly forget about what he said because he's ready to move on, as if that means there should be a time limit on your sense of hurt and insult. If you're not going to leave I would at the very least make myself scarce (move out) for a few days to give him time to think over the enormity of his actions and the impact they're responsible for. I would also certainly put the TTC on ice for the time being because walking yourself into a lifetime of this is just too big a risk to take.

MauriceandAlec · 14/03/2020 18:54

But I know how bad this is. I'm under no illusion here, just struggling to accept it, and I just can't get over how stupid he is! Who even thinks this is how vaginas work!?

WHY, WHY, WHY are you struggling to accept that you are with a thick, misogynistic prick? And why on Earth would you consider procreating with such a stupid arsehole? How utterly repulsive the way he talks to you and treats you. Grow up and do not tether yourself to this dense, woman-hating bastard, genes like his just shouldn't be spread.

Bubbletrouble43 · 14/03/2020 18:55

Oh op that's horrible. You say you've been ttc. My guess is that having not made you pregnant immediately and it maybe taking longer than he hoped he's feeling less of a man because of it. And is viciously taking it out on you. Whatever, it sounds like emotionally abusive behaviour to me. You deserve better.