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DP has really upset me (sex)

206 replies

Owleyes16 · 14/03/2020 17:37

NC for this because I'm kind of embarrassed and confused.

Some background: I'm 24 and DP is 30, we've been together for 5 years, lived together for 3, and he's the only person I've ever been with, my first everything. We're generally great, best friends, love each other more all the time, never had any major issues. Sex life is normally great.

We've been TTC 6 months now so this has started to take its toll on me mentally, the last 2 weeks I've been very anxious and upset but I have improved over the last few days and looking forward to trying again. However because of how I have been feeling, and life getting in the way, we haven't had sex for 3 weeks.

Today was going to be the day we got back to it, I started running my bath and we were kind of playing around, and kissing, cuddling, etc. I told him I wanted to wait until after my bath to have sex because I didn't feel clean. Bath finished, I get naked ready to get in and we get a bit carried away, he especially is very excited. Anyway, we end up start having sex and he says "oh you really do smell" and I remind him I did say I wanted my bath first. Annoying, but continue, he didn't say it in a nasty way just matter of fact, and to be fair I did. Then he said a few times about how "wide" and "loose" I am and kept commenting on that and how wet I was. I got really self conscious and stopped, I didn't really know what he meant by that but I just felt awful, it's not a nice thing to say, and I told him that, he apologies, I get in the bath.

Then some time later he comes in with a face on him and tells me that he's sorry for upsetting me, but I have to understand that "as a guy, when you're wide it makes me think that you haven't been faithful". You don't have to tell me how gross that is, in so many ways. I told him how upset I was and how stupid he is, he apologises more, and we've barely spoke since.

He came in the front room a while ago to ask me what was wrong, and upon finding I'm clearly still upset, he said that he can't say sorry anymore than he has and he can't cope with the tension, etc. And I just said yes I know you can't do anything about it now, but it doesn't mean I can't still be upset, that I feel disrespected and insulted. He stormed back off to the bedroom and I haven't heard him since.

I really don't know what to do about this. I don't know how to feel. This is the first time in our relationship I've felt like this, just like he doesn't respect me and won't take responsibility for what he's said, sorry just doesn't feel good enough. I know he's going to try to pretend as though nothing has happened soon, come in and cuddle me and I'll have to forget about it and get on with it, but I don't know if I can let it go. He's accused me of cheating on him, has shown his ignorance re female anatomy, has insulted my biology, made me feel self conscious, etc.

Am I overreacting? How can we move forward from this? Sorry this was so long, I didn't want to drip feed.

OP posts:
Dozer · 14/03/2020 18:57

Start using contraception again, or even better LTB.

Massive red flags that he is sexist and abusive. Abuse often starts or ramps up during pregnancy or when first DC arrives.

What was your plan after DC since you’re not married, to continue to work full time? Would your DP do an equal share of parenting and domestic work? Men with attitudes like this rarely do.

HollowTalk · 14/03/2020 18:57

He's absolutely disgusting. Leave him now and do the Freedom Programme - I think you'll find quite a few things resonate. You're so young and you deserve someone lovely. I'd advise you to work on a career while you're young, too.

Dozer · 14/03/2020 18:59

“I genuinely can’t express how much I love him”.

That’s irrelevant. Your feelings of love and behaviour towards him are not the problem here: his behaviour and attitudes are. Your love cannot change those.

Treating you with suspicion “because of being cheated on in the past” is another red flag.

RhubarbTea · 14/03/2020 18:59

Fucking HELL. I am speechless. I think because you have only been with this guy you might be a bit taken in, but thank goodness he has shown his true colours before you are yoked to him forever! Honestly gobsmacked at his behaviour.

And in my opinion TTC is a time when if the person you are TTC with isn't right for you or even someone you should be having kids with, this kind of stuff will come up and really niggle at you. It's your gut instinct going: NOPE. He's probably been a cock before but it wasn't life and death so you probably brushed it off and got on with things. Do not brush this off - I promise you will regret it forever if you do.
Fucking hell what is wrong with these shitty, insecure men? These are the people who become abusers later down the line. The signs are always there.
I know you love him but bloody hell. Get out while you still can.

2020nymph · 14/03/2020 19:00

Oh @Owleyes16 you deserve so much better. 💐

Alicatz66 · 14/03/2020 19:02

We all agree ! Re read all the replies.... keep them ... do not get pregnant .. leave .

Figgygal · 14/03/2020 19:02

He’s gross
Don’t have a baby with him please!!

Meltedwellie · 14/03/2020 19:06

I understand it’s difficult when you love someone and he won’t be vile all of the time. He will have a nice side to him, the reasons you fell for him BUT there are huge red flags and no matter how nice he is capable of being you now know he is capable of being cruel and indifferent to your feelings. He may even love you in his head but this isn’t the definition of love that you need for a happy life. He’s got a f@cked up way of looking at things and you can’t fix that. Don’t sacrifice yourself for him, get out however hard that may feel, you CAN do it. Put yourself first cos he won’t.

Candyfloss99 · 14/03/2020 19:06

Wow this is really bad, unforgivable for him to say those things and then say he thinks it's because you are cheating is the final nail in the coffin.

justasking111 · 14/03/2020 19:06

You are only 24 and sexually inexperienced. Plenty of time for babies with the right man who will marry you first.

64sNewName · 14/03/2020 19:09

He sounds awful.

And sorry but so what if he is sometimes nice, looks after you when you're ill etc.? Does a man have to be one hundred per cent horrible all the damn time, with no respite, before it counts? No. Being horrible some of the time should be enough to make you walk away.

I despair. It honestly seems like some women don't realise there are men out there who are never horrible to their partners. Never insult them, never make cruel remarks as some kind of loser's power trip. And not because they're holding back some primal urge, but because they genuinely wouldn't dream of behaving like that.

You need to leave this inadequate, nasty man and heal and expand your horizons. Not tie yourself to him with a pregnancy.

Imagine having a father who thinks women get wide vaginas when they cheat. IMAGINE if you had a daughter with this man. Fucking hell, it's horrendous.

Rainbowqueeen · 14/03/2020 19:12

Don’t fall into the trap of thinking that your love is enough to keep the relationship going. It isn’t.

He needs to love and respect you just as much to have a genuine healthy relationship

Take some time to think. It’s a red flag that you are TTC now because he wants to. Have you talked about marriage? Do you know how vulnerable you would be if you have a baby without being married?

There is a ton of evidence that abuse starts during pregnancy. A lot of PPs are seeing the signs there and are really concerned for you.
The suggestion if the freedom programme is a great one

In the meantime a big yes to contraception and I’d be making it very clear to him that he doesn’t get to decide when you are or even if you are ready to move on from this.

64sNewName · 14/03/2020 19:12

he said that he can't say sorry anymore than he has and he can't cope with the tension

^ And what the fuck is this noise? Is he fourteen years old?

I'm still marvelling at the sheer thickness of a person who thinks what he thinks about vaginas.

OP, really. Really. You can't make this the man you stay with for life. Twenty-four is no age. Get out.

peachypetite · 14/03/2020 19:15

Lucky escape that you’ve not fallen pregnant yet. What an arsehole.

TealWater · 14/03/2020 19:15

You're not married and you are trying to conceive? I don't understand that. I know accidents but to deliberately try to get pregnant when you're not married, I don't understand that at all. Regardless, he has been horribly sexist to you, and offensive. You should say to him maybe your cock has shrunk? in response to him suggesting you are 'wide' down there. See how he likes it to be insulted.

Dragonembroidery · 14/03/2020 19:17

It's be pretty bad that you were only 19 and he was a 25 year old man when you got together. He sounds like a predator and very nasty.
I don't want to be gross but as a woman now rather than a 19yo girl, you will be wider and more lubricated. Blush

Choccylips · 14/03/2020 19:17

I agree with Zhuleva. But also think you need to get rid of him fast you don't deserve to stay in a relationship like that.

Mistystar99 · 14/03/2020 19:18

Defo leave off TTC, especially as you aren't that into it. What he said was really, truly nasty, whatever mitigating circumstances there may be.

Aloe6 · 14/03/2020 19:19

Don’t get trapped by having a baby with this man. Next time he makes a disparaging comment about your vagina, remind him about his skinny penis.

Nomorepies · 14/03/2020 19:19

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Thinkingabout1t · 14/03/2020 19:19

This is so bizarre. I would think he had never seen a naked woman, only you’ve said he is 30, you've been together five years and he has had previous relationships.

You say you love him, but is it more because he was your “first everything”? You were only 19 when you got together.

You need to have a serious and honest talk to see if he’s going through some kind of crisis or something, or if he something has made him more self-conscious about his small penis.
Or has he been watching pornography, so he’s suddenly comparing your normal body with a porn star’s?

Better stop ttc until you’ve worked out whether you want to stay with him.

D4rwin · 14/03/2020 19:19

That's him. The misogynistic insecure nasty arsehole. You could weigh it against any positive qualities but ultimately this is the point in your relationship that is relatively stress free. He will get 100 times worse under pressure at least. Stress rarely brings out people's most gentle side.

Run for the hills. Don't look back.

justasking111 · 14/03/2020 19:19

Could he have been with another woman?

Helmetbymidnight · 14/03/2020 19:21

lets not dwell on whether hes a cheat or not.

hes an arsehole- op listen to everyone here, you need to leave this guy.

DPotter · 14/03/2020 19:21

I know he's going to try to pretend as though nothing has happened soon, come in and cuddle me and I'll have to forget about it and get on with it

I may be reading more into this than there really is, BUT this phrasing suggests to me this isn't the first time you have had to put up with unpleasant behaviour and that you're expected to put up with it. However I'm sure I'm not the only person to tell you that you are not over reacting, his comments in the context were nasty and belittling and you most certainly do not have to put up with them and let him cuddle you as if nothing is out of order.
I understand the panic - got to leave, don't know where / how to start. Keep it simple - Pack a bag (bring important paperwork as well, eg passport, bank info etc), call family / friend to come and help you leave. Don't tell him it's over just yet - get out first, be safe. Tell him you're upset and you're going to spend the night with Mum, friend , whoever. You can tell him it's over when you're out of the house.
Just to say again - you are not over reacting. Don't get pregnant with this excuse of a man