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Do I have a right to have this?

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P999 · 20/02/2020 22:36

My ex and I split 2 years ago, around the time he came into some money when a family trust on his side was formed. Coincidence? Hmm. Up until then, i was pretty much paying for everything and putting a roof over his head. My 2DDs are beneficiaries to the trust when my ex dies. He gets regular payments from this trust. He initially promised to send me the Trust deeds and then soon after went back on that promise. His brother is a big deal tax avoidance player and had a big hand in setting up this trust, which is supposed to be one that was created to manage their dad's estate. The dad is gaga now. Im sure the brother has dobe dodgy things with the trust. It's an overseas one. My ex gets huge payouts but refuses to tell me anything about them. He pays 1k per month towards girls upkeep. But I think this is peanuts in terms of his overall earnings from the trust and his job. I've called him up over his caginess but he insists it's non of my business or he ignores me. AIBU?

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Ellisandra · 21/02/2020 16:19

Why did you get into debt supporting a man from a wealthy family?

You have no right to see the paperwork.

I was married to a man who was very pushed around financially by his brother, I feel for you. The brother basically stole some money from their mother, intended to be shared between all grandchildren, for his own children. The details would be outing. I was raging. It still makes me angry now. Not so much the actual £s, but the fact my XH let it happen so easily because he was spineless. Sometimes, you just have to concentrate on not letting it make you bitter.

BumbleBeee69 · 21/02/2020 16:25

could you use a Forensic Accountant if required.. when the time comes OP ?

P999 · 21/02/2020 17:04

I think, hopefully without sounding too dramatic, that i feel quite traumatised by that family. And am not quite over it. Almost like i escaped a cult where i wasnt successfully brainwashed but felt like i was losing my mind. For example, my ex went to rehab twice. Yet the family were all in denial he had an alcohol problem and 2 weeks after leaving rehab they were opening bottles and pouring out glasses for him.when I got upset about this, i was the mad angry bitch. It was such a horrendous gaslighting experience. But a collective one. I am NC with them, but I guess I have a rage towards them all. I thought I was over It, but something must have triggered all those feelings again.

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springydaff · 21/02/2020 19:22

I that case if think again about

Vet mindful of DDs as they love their dad and put him on pedestal. And not going to rock that

I absolutely would rock that. Or at least not facilitate it if you must. But if go for the forget.

T-shirt and all that. We like to think toxic people will be different, synergies or, with children. Not so!

If I had my time again I'd do it very differently. Not vengeance but protecting my kids (who are royally fucked up by that bunch). Don't be blinded by current morals around absent parents and their family, get savvy op.

springydaff · 21/02/2020 19:23

Forget not forget re I'd go for the former

springydaff · 21/02/2020 19:24

*will be different, pure somehow, with children. Not so!

springydaff · 21/02/2020 19:25

FORMER not forget! Ffs! Predictive is getting so ridiculous Angry

P999 · 21/02/2020 19:47

Spring, can I ask you what your story is?

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springydaff · 21/02/2020 19:51

He was self employed just about sums up the entire story ie he made swathes of cash vanish into thin air. He even accidentally pocket-called me and I heard him doing it.

Then he died in an accident.

The end.

springydaff · 21/02/2020 19:52

(wouldn't have wanted him dead of course but hey I didn't cause the accident).

He and his family fucked up the kids. Toxic purple are toxic through and through, don't ever forget that.

springydaff · 21/02/2020 19:54

PEOPLE

P999 · 21/02/2020 20:00

Shit. That's just fucking horrendous. And I agree with you. Toxic people are he'll bent on their reality. However black and white the reality staring them in their faces. And they will not budge from it. How are your DCs now? X

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P999 · 21/02/2020 20:29

And you. Flowers

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VodselForDinner · 21/02/2020 20:59

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P999 · 21/02/2020 21:22

Go away vods

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NewbieSM · 21/02/2020 21:45

Honestly you sound a bit jealous of his lifestyle. He is under no obligation to give you more money that what cms states he has to pay. He certainly does not need to provide you with financial documentation regarding HIS family trust. You seem to hate this family and see them as criminals, so wanting your DDs to benefit from criminal funds seems a bit contradictory.

If you think he isn't declaring all EARNED income then by all means open a claim with cms, but his family's money is none of your business so I suggest you check yourself.

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springydaff · 21/02/2020 22:21

Vile post vods

springydaff · 21/02/2020 22:24

Kids not great p999. These people fuck you up BIG TIME. Anyone who gets within their orbit.

Don't feed your kids to the lion/s.

springydaff · 21/02/2020 22:25

Vile post newbie.

Wtf is wrong with you people

P999 · 21/02/2020 22:26

Thank you spring. Carry on vods. If that's how you get your kicks Hmm. But you haven't got a clue

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P999 · 21/02/2020 22:30

Think vods and newbie might be my ex in-laws...

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motheringmayham · 21/02/2020 22:31

My ex did everything in his power to hide money, laundry money, tax avoidance you name it. There will come a time when you will just need to walk away and not focus on this. Honestly I walked away from huge amounts of money. But my morals are intact and that's the only thing I want my kids to inherit.

Koalaing · 21/02/2020 22:44

You get 1k a month in maintenance!!
Jeez. Thats plenty no?

Confused Surely it's not.

If OP matches his contribution then it's £2k a month. By the time the roof over the children's heads is paid for, plus their water, electric, gas, food, clothes, hobbies, child care costs etc are paid I wouldn't call it plenty. Enough, certainly, and more than lots of people have, but by no means a fortune, especially for someone who has a trust fund.

P999 · 21/02/2020 22:49

Spring. I know you're right. Am really sorry to hear that. How old are they? Do they have no contact now? My 10 year old told me that the ex MIL is constantly insulting me in 'sugar coated' (her words) ways. And undermining me. She sees them when they're at their dad's. I dont think i can stop it. There is a lot of dysfunction in that family. The brother has a 15 year old from marriage number 1. When she cames to stay at his, he would palms her off on a nanny and play golf. When his current wife was pregnant, he turned her bedroom into a nursery. Without bothering to tell her. She found out when she turned up for the weekend. She is very unhappy, has been expelled from every school and has even drunk bleach. His answer was to send her to a boarding school in the states. I remember one horrendous dinner when all the adults piled into her (she was about 11 or 12 at the time) and telling her she was spoilt for not appreciating how lucky she was. I did defend her. But I was the only one. Nobody dares challenge Mr moneybags, for fear he wont cough up for their carribwan holidays. Or new Merc. And no. I've never accepted a holiday from him. Even though was invited many times. Not my cup of tea. Said I had work commitments. But probably obvious I just didn't want to go.

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