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Body shaming

163 replies

littlebirdieblue · 16/02/2020 06:19

I'd been seeing a really lovely man, I'm mid 40's, he's early 50's for 7 weeks, we were exclusive and he asked me to be his girlfriend quite early on, we've slept together, it took me a while as I have body issues, in that I have a mummy tummy from having twins that I feel very embarrassed about. After the first time he told me my tummy wasn't an issue and that he loved everything about my body, so I've started to relax about the way I look and I thought things were going really well. We have lots of common interests and enjoy being together.

Yesterday he was meant to come to mine for the weekend, as my children were at their dads, and we'd also arranged to go to my sisters so he could meet her. And then go out for dinner just the two of us. So he arrives we have sex, this time I relaxed and totally let myself go. I thought the sex was good and he seemed to enjoy it too. I then made us lunch and then we went to my sisters, everything seemed fine and he seemed relaxed and happy. We get back to
mine, we watched a bit of telly, he intimated cuddling in the sofa, so I was relaxed and feeling really happy. Then I say we'd better start getting ready soon, he responded with 'I need to tell you something' then proceeds to tell me how great I am but he can't get past my mummy tummy.

Omg I felt like he'd punched me in the gut. I asked him when he felt like this and he said when we had sex earlier, I couldn't stop myself from crying, not sobbing or anything, but the tears just came, I feel so humiliated that he was thinking how bad I looked while I was so unaware as he'd made me feel like my tummy didn't matter previously.
He wanted to sit down and talk about it, but I just needed him to go, I kept saying I don't know how you expect me to respond, this is me, this is how my body is and it's not going to change, and he was saying we should just talk about it. But what is there to say, how can I ever be intimate with him knowing he can't get past how my tummy looks. So again I said it was best for him to go as the relationship is done. There were no shouting or sobbing it was just tense and awkward.
I did say to him I wish he'd told me before meeting my sister as now I feel so embarrassed I'm going to have to tell her I'm not seeing him anymore after her only just meeting him. I also said I don't understand why he was initiating cuddles if he felt like he does, as it made me feel fool, cuddling thinking how well everything was going, so pathetic. He said he just thought it was best to be honest, and while I agree honesty is the best policy, in this case I think he could have been kinder and said he just wasn't feeling it anymore, not make me feel so bad about myself. Was he right though? Maybe I have overreacted but it's left me feeling like I can't show anyone ever my awful tummy and I don't know how I can pick myself up 😢

OP posts:
Wereallsquare · 17/02/2020 12:02

@littlebirdieblue
I am sorry you are feeling so full of self-doubt. This is exactly what he wants from you. Re-read the thread. The answers are there. He will NEVER tell you the truth. The fact is he is an insecure, manipulative monster who seduced you in order to control you. He was kind to get you to fall for him and lower your boundaries so that he could take control of you by making you doubt yourself. Please reread the thread, talk to your friend and sister (as long as they are sensible). Do anything but contact that monster again. You deserve better. Thanks

CodenameVillanelle · 17/02/2020 12:04

You will definitely not get an answer that helps you and will feed his desire to hurt you. Leave him thinking he's too insignificant for you to be upset by.

Rewy · 17/02/2020 12:10

Please do not be sucked back to this narcissist. When I read your thread it instantly reminded me of an ex who would regularly manipulate me and plant hurtful seeds . It was designed to make me feel worthless and feel so lucky to have him. This is a tester to see how far he can manipulate you and get away with it. I guarantee he is a narcissist. Run away run away .

CousinKrispy · 17/02/2020 12:25

I completely agree with KatnissK and Moltenpink.

I wonder if it hurts you so much partly because it was tapping into something you feel insecure about (no judgement, we've all got something we feel particularly sensitive about, mine is my crap complexion) but also because you trusted the guy? You kind of know there's a lot of assholes out there who would criticize your tummy (or your crap skin, or thinning hair, or whatever) but you wouldn't knowingly pick one of them to get naked with. It's not fun to contemplate the shitty things they'd say about you, but it isn't that bothersome, as you'd know to have your guard up with them in the first place and not allow them the opportunity.

You'd placed your trust in this man because he had acted like a trustworthy, decent person up until the mask slipped. You've not only had someone insult you, you've just had what seemed to be a supportive, loving relationship with someone you could trust snatched away from you. That hurts like hell and it's OK to take time to mourn that.

It hurts, but remember it's better to have to mourn the loss of what you thought you had, but walked away from when the truth was revealed, than to suffer years of slow criticism and undermining and trying to perfect yourself for him.

Your body is wonderful, OP, it MADE TWINS (plus your other DC!). That is amazing and beautiful.

Shayisgreat · 17/02/2020 12:51

I'm with everyone else here - he was trying to undermine your confidence and get you to be grateful that he is so wonderful that he would be willing to look past your tummy. Wanker. You were so strong to immediately tell him to leave. I bet he'll be more subtle with his next victim. Wanker.

Your looks aren't the problem. He's the problem.

littlebirdieblue · 17/02/2020 13:26

Thank you I reread everyones comments and I know you are all right, thank you 😊

@CousinKrispy you have wrote exactly how it has made me feel!! It's exactly that, I trusted him and completely let my guard down, so it really was a shock that he wasn't who I thought he was

I'm strong I know it and I'm not going to let him get me down Smile

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Rockingham1 · 17/02/2020 15:36

What a complete and utter arsehole, I’m so sorry he said that to you and that you had the misfortune of getting involved with such a horror of a man. At least you’ve found out what he’s like fairly early on and have got rid. If someone loves you they will not care about your (very normal for someone who’s had children) tummy area! I’m sure you will meet a much nicer man in time Flowers

TigerDater · 17/02/2020 16:00

Not sure he did it deliberately to undermine/abuse you OP - MN always attributes such self-awareness and intelligence to men - without any further info. But for sure he has that sense of entitlement and an instinct for objectification of women that our society breeds in men. Plus he's insensitive and crass. So bullet dodged.

FWIW I have an overhang after having three CSs in three years 25 or so years ago. When I started dating two years ago I prepared a line for if a man even mentioned it: 'I don't like the way it looks but it is my proudest achievement and the most important part of me, because it signifies my children'. I also have a positive line in celebration of my rather small boobs Grin. But don't worry OP, there are plenty of mature, kind men out there, and I've never had to use those lines. Don't let one idiot spoil your fun.

Mary1935 · 17/02/2020 16:21

You really need to block him and delete his number then you can contact him. Do not let a worthless piece of shit get to you in this way. He’s a nobody. Bastard!!
🌺

Craftycorvid · 17/02/2020 16:34

If you’d said you felt self-conscious about your small boobs/big boobs/legs/nose whatever, guess what? That would have been the thing he suddenly couldn’t deal with. He knew you felt self conscious and then used the knowledge to get at you. He’s either avoiding taking responsibility for ending it or he was trying to neg’ you. Not a subtle mover, is he? He can take himself and his attitudes down the road, then, thus freeing your time for someone who deserves it.

YeOldeTrout. Happy to discuss feminism with you sometime.

TreatMyself · 17/02/2020 17:09

Sadly I think it shows you don’t know someone after 7 weeks, however lovely they might seem on the surface.

littlebirdieblue · 17/02/2020 17:17

I've just done it @Mary1935 good advice Smile

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SunshineAvenue · 17/02/2020 17:28

Urgh, what an arsehole. What's to talk about? Awful for you.

Why not text him and say 'As you're a believer of honesty being the best policy just wanted to say how I can't get over the look of your wizened old ball sac and old man arse crack'

CouscousEvaporator · 17/02/2020 17:49

Do not for one second think this is about you!! Do not let his shitty words affect you in any way. Some men can’t stand to see a woman comfortable and confident. He wanted you vulnerable.

What an absolute prick he is, not even able to hide it for more than 7 weeks.

Ruby889 · 17/02/2020 19:01

You didnt overreact, hes a cunt.

In a previous relationship i was also very self conscious about my stomach. Whenever we were intimate i would try to cover up by wearing a vest top or only get completely naked when it was dark. Very early on he picked up on this when one day he tried to take my top off me and i said no and opened up about being nervous about my stomach. I relaxed and let him see and he assured me it wasnt a problem and a few days later even joked about how silly i was being. When we ended he went on and on and on saying horrible things and targeted my body especially. It really knocked me and so in my next relationship i went back to being nervous and covering up as much as possible.

I dont think though that anyone should ever feel like they have to hide their body. It took me a while to even realise myself & that if any one has a problem that says alot really. If someone truly likes or loves you they wont care about anything like that

Thwackadoodle · 17/02/2020 19:16

Yeah, right, he "couldn't get past" your tummy.

Seemed to be fine with it while he was enthusiastically shagging you, though, didn't he? Found you extremely attractive, in fact.

I would agree that he is one of those men who tries to pick at your insecurities to keep you down. If you'd said you were insecure aout your earlobes, he'd have been all, "Aww, sorry darling, I just can't get past your earlobes." (After enjoying plenty of sex with you first, obvs.)

TooManyPlatesInMotion · 17/02/2020 19:31

I echo what others have said.

He was being deliberately cruel and waited until you had confided in him and shown some vulnerability before setting out to hurt you. He is a manipulative bastard and he did it on purpose.

We all have our insecurities and no one is purpose. Your body is amazing - it grew two human beings ffs. He can fuck right off.

I also have an overhang from 3 sections. It has taken me a while to get to the point where I don't feel self conscious about it but I am there now. I have concentrated on getting fit and strong, sod some lose skin. You will get there too, but don't get drawn back to this man. You're do much better.

Peanutbuttermouth · 17/02/2020 19:48

This thread is a lesson in how to deal with abusive men! Disengage, ask him to leave, dump, block, ask for support from other women. Perfect!!! OP you sound like a star.

user1493242132 · 17/02/2020 19:51

Bastard

Pinkbonbon · 17/02/2020 20:03

Sounds like he was testing you to see if you would tolerate abuse. It often starts when they think you are happy. And have let your guard down with them. They hone in on whatever they think you are insecure about and make a comment. This guy was oo blatant about it, so he shot himself in the foot.

You are well shot!

Be careful of the chemistry. Noticed I've had this with narcissistic sorts early on. You mistake it for jlust...but you're actually just sensing the intensity with which they chase their prey.

myusernamewastakenbyme · 17/02/2020 21:07

I have quite a large bum...i hate it...ive always hated it...my partner adores it....he is always going on about how perfect it is...after several men who have made me feel shit about it...i am finally starting to like it...hang in there op...there are some good men out there.

Notcoolmum · 20/02/2020 09:14

Most women who have had kids have a mum tum. I've had two sections and my stomach is not pretty. I've slept with a number of men post divorce and no one has ever had an issue with it.

It might be worth noting for next time that 7 weeks is still very early days and think about when a good time is to involve them into your wider life. But don't feel embarrassed. You acted very strongly and decisively in getting rid of what is clearly not a nice man. I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to work his way back in so do be strong and don't fall for it.

PeakFlow · 20/02/2020 13:45

You did brilliantly Op. Recognised a dick and got rid of him. Well done.
Flowers

samyeagar · 20/02/2020 14:33

This is a rough thread for sure, especially when paired with the New Man Small Penis thread going on.

It's only been lightly touched on, but while I think that the details are largely immaterial, this is a very good example of discovering a boundary and holding to it, so well done OP.

Grape0 · 20/02/2020 14:47

I don't think your tummy was an issue tbh. I think he was zoning in on your insecurities as a way to neg/bully you

This x100000000%

You have massively dodged a bullet here. What a vile, awful person.

Please please please don't let this idiot's cruel words have a lasting effect on you - I have my own insecurities (as we all do!) and I just know that if someone pointed them out to me then it would seriously knock my confidence so I know how you must be feeling. Just please, do not let him win.

I completely agree that he has just zoned in on YOUR insecurity in order to gain control.

You've handled it perfectly OP x

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