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Do women really dislike other women for no reason at all?

118 replies

Colarola · 28/01/2020 19:07

I work in a care setting and then is a lady who works there, who is kind to everyone and really lovely with the residents. But a small number of ladies have taken an instant dislike to her, when she talks, I've noticed eyes rolling and smirks to each other. One lady last week whilst having a conversation about Mc D, said to her, I didn't think you would go to Mc D as you're so posh! Shes not just well spoken. The other day in handover, the manager said to her "what do you prefer to be called?" "Charlotte or Charlie"? Just at that moment, two ladies burst into laughter?? I could see the lady look a bit upset. I've also noticed when she says hello to some, they just ignore like shes not there, shes quite quiet but friendly. What I've been wondering, do women really dislike other women just for the sake of it, like their accent or just for no reason? I could take a dislike to someone if they are unkind to residents for example but never just for the sake of it.....

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Luckystar777 · 30/01/2020 00:51

@WellHolyGodMiley I once had a taxi driver (male) tell me women ar trouble and went on to tell me it was down to their jealousy of one another so not all men are oblivious.

As for the woman you knew - narcissists like that.. are everywhere, unfortunately :(

Bluntness100 · 30/01/2020 06:00

It is an interesting and spot on comment from the poster who said women bully women they perceive to be better in some way, and men bully men they perceive to be weaker or less in some way.

I think that's exactly what it is. I don't think it's the majority though, I do think it's the minority, but there are enough of them that this behaviour is not uncommon. Most attractive women will have had some form of experience of it from other women.

I got attacked at school, from a girl in the year above me, in my mid teens. For genuinely no reason, I was waiting for a friend outside class and she literally walked past and launched herself at me, scratched my face all over, literally every inch of it had deep claw marks and I had to be kept off school . I'd never even spoken to the girl in my life. The teachers put it down to jealousy and said so in front of me.

The head teacher, when my step mother, who was attractive, asked if she should go to see the mother, said "Its jealousy, so I would not, if that's what the daughter can do, can you Imagine what the mother can".

I didn't understand it then, and I still don't understand it. How you can and attempt to literally claw another females face off. But that's exactly what she did.

vampirethriller · 30/01/2020 06:55

Yes i agree it's jealousy. My mother does it. Any woman who is nicely dressed, has a different accent, nice hair, nice house... Even newsreaders and TV presenters. Mother will list what she thinks are their faults, mock their voices, etc. She also wonders why she has very very few friends.

CandyFlossSkies · 30/01/2020 09:23

Now the other said things such as nails (I had on black short shellac?!), too fussy clothes (a simple black dress, statement neck piece?!), too chatty...?!?!

God that sounds pathetic. And to write it down as well!!! Jesus!!

CandyFlossSkies · 30/01/2020 09:26

@Bluntness100I That's awful. That girl sounds like she had serious mental health issues.

Lweji · 30/01/2020 10:59

People are different.
Some women clearly get jealous of other women.
But, men can certainly be as vicious and underhand as women. More, even. I suppose that they tend to do it less as a group or be as obvious. They'll disguise it as something else.

mamato3lads · 30/01/2020 15:03

Jealous nasty bitches. Some people cant help themselves, they're rotten inside.

MerryDeath · 30/01/2020 16:31

only some women. ones who feel inadequate.

i,however, automatically dislike all men until given a reason not to. i like all women by default. particularly now i am older and dgaf if I'm the thinnest/prettiest in the room. it's lovely.

WellHolyGodMiley · 30/01/2020 17:15

Id be more like that @MerryDeath

Mintypylonsfryingsurplus · 01/02/2020 08:29

The only time I have ever been bullied at work was when I had a job in a care home over 16 years ago. One woman ' self styled mean girl' took a dislike to me and then targeted me as a campaign.
It was a horrible job, due to the women there.
I was training to be a tutor in FE, kept myself to myself but it got so bad I had to report it to management. I did however say to management that as I was being ignored when asking questions/ instructions to these bullying individuals it was not a safe environment, so I would have to take it higher to the QCC. The bully was dealt with but after that I was pretty much sent to coventry so left as soon as I qualified.
Looking back it was a toxic alpha matriarch place. All of the mean girls ( who slagged each other off behind their backs) vying for top spot. Examples like who stayed behind longest, who worked over Christmas the most. Who refused to do the NVQ as they had been there for 18 years and know more than the managers.
I did confront bully girl the day I left. I told her how unpleasant, vile I found her and how relieved I was to be able to leave. I also said anymore gossip about me and I would go to the police. There does seem to be a theme for care homes though and bullying.

Izabela86 · 01/02/2020 08:37

I think it’s insecurities mainly that make other women like this. It’s sad really.

FrenchBoule · 01/02/2020 09:40

There might be a reason but not always known.

My ex friend turned on me at work.
I was criticised, belittled and she stopped speaking to me.

We were working in the same department and had lunch with the same group of people. What I thought would be great, turned out into hell.
Our department had to be staffed during the breaks so we couldn’t go together.
Ex friend picked up the times when the rest of the group was going( I didn’t know) so I was always sitting alone. We fell out because of that. Later it turned out that the group is very close together with parties, gigs and so on. Fair enough.
I no longer sit with them. My ex friend blanked me for really long time so I started doing the same.She doesn’t like it.
I moved on eventually. She’s might pissed off that I no longer react to her. Sometimes i still catch her looking at me- she had some amused long looks from me and eventually looked away squirming.

Bullying by exclusion it is called.
I don’t care anymore.

The rest of the group still speaks to me sometimes when she’s not around.Polite weather conversations when we used to talk abut kids and the other things.

Bluntness100 · 01/02/2020 10:07

Candy, I don't know, I saw her years later and I actually got a real fright.

The school took it very seriously, she was suspended, and then made to apologise with teachers etc present, the parents were involved. It was a big deal.

It was one of the few times in my life my step mother was nice to me. I had to go into school for a prelim exam, and she took me into the bedroom and tried to cover it up with concealer to help me, but it was all weeping and wouldn't stick,. When I say it was like someone took a cheese grater to my face I'm not exaggerating. She literally attacked and started scratching my face with both hands. She had these pointy finger nails fashionable at the time.

And she's not the only female to have done such a thing. There have been many reports in the media about women who physically assault other women due to jealousy.

Most however who feel like this stop at bitchy comments, ostracising, and trying to bring the woman down. But again it's only a small minority of women, but they do exist and there are enough of them that we all know it.

KatherineJaneway · 01/02/2020 14:21

I remember one woman on the early series of Big Brother, before it got ridiculous, hated all other women in the house. Only liked the last remaining woman as she was a lesbian, so no competition for male attention.

Smotheroffive · 01/02/2020 14:40

Does noone see the irony in an OP about a couppe of random incidents, which she knows literally nothing about, and instead of doing something about it, actively asking them, or helping the woman laughed at, extrapolates a question that women are like this???

It really does come across as you being the one making judgemental and sexist commentary about all women bassd on two women in your workplace.

Its most odd.

As for the biazarre interaction that you were subjected to bluntness having any place in this context, and the most odd conclusions drawn by the head teacher, having any relevance and thats its all about jealously is wrong.

Its about the girl that visciously attacked you, unprovoked, having serious issues. Serious.

The headteacher was far from 'insightful' to place such a shit explanation on it. It seems to me.more likely they had no clue how to deal with this incident and just didn't and tried to stop you doing this too.

Some use 'jealously' as a way of stopping people pursuing harms done against them.

I've heard it used in the legal sphere, and elsewhere to make the victim feel somehow special because someone else is else of them, apparently.

Its harmful conjecture and nonsense.

If you seriously wanted to know, OP, you'd have made comment at the time, instead of turning it into idle gossip without basis on this thread.

Extrapolating such from such doesn't add up because you don't know anything about it from those involved.

Smotheroffive · 01/02/2020 14:42

*else is jealous

Smotheroffive · 01/02/2020 14:45

Yes, there was something seriously wrong with the girl.

In the context of sex based violence its a drop in the ocean.

...and we certainly don't all know it. You don't speak for me.

Yeahnah2020 · 02/02/2020 08:46

Yes they do. Usually it’s jealousy and self esteem issues. Yes im talking about you Penny. The Sunday morning only Christian.

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