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Do women really dislike other women for no reason at all?

118 replies

Colarola · 28/01/2020 19:07

I work in a care setting and then is a lady who works there, who is kind to everyone and really lovely with the residents. But a small number of ladies have taken an instant dislike to her, when she talks, I've noticed eyes rolling and smirks to each other. One lady last week whilst having a conversation about Mc D, said to her, I didn't think you would go to Mc D as you're so posh! Shes not just well spoken. The other day in handover, the manager said to her "what do you prefer to be called?" "Charlotte or Charlie"? Just at that moment, two ladies burst into laughter?? I could see the lady look a bit upset. I've also noticed when she says hello to some, they just ignore like shes not there, shes quite quiet but friendly. What I've been wondering, do women really dislike other women just for the sake of it, like their accent or just for no reason? I could take a dislike to someone if they are unkind to residents for example but never just for the sake of it.....

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Needtomoveon84 · 29/01/2020 13:52

This site is the best example of women being nasty to women.

There can be great support but equally nasty comments, so much hate for MILs and step mums, so many expecting every penny to come from someone else.

There is so much of it on here

LoveIsLovely · 29/01/2020 13:56

@Divebar well like it or not, most people find slimmer people attractive.

Watershed1 · 29/01/2020 13:58

I've been on the receiving end of this situation. Years ago, after leaving Uni I started a new job with another woman at the same time - she was mid-forties so quite a bit older than me. For some reason, she took an instant dislike to me. I was never anything but civil and polite to her but she would literally take every opportunity she could to put me down, socially disgrace me, turn others against me. Her behaviour was just baffling.

I experienced it again recently at work - a senior colleague, who is a woman, also took an instant dislike to me. Again, the same traits are there - belittling comments, disparaging remarks, negative social discrimination at every opportunity. I'm not so bothered by it anymore as I'm older now and more life experience. But it does happen. And I am quite a happy-go-lucky person, I can't really be bothered to make enemies at work so I don't really understand why some people target you.

Maybe they're jealous of your potential, or jealous of the way you are and what you do, or how you do it. Maybe they're just fragile themselves, or something's wrong in their lives and everyone else is paying for it. Either way, they're really not worth wasting your time on. Clock them and don't give them a second of your energy. Avoid, and move on.

followingonfromthat · 29/01/2020 14:13

I used to work with a colleague who had a sign on his desk which read: "I'm not prejudiced - I hate everybody" Grin

Some people (irrespective of sex/gender) definitely raise my hackles for no good reason, but I try not to let it show.

JohnMcCainsDeathStare · 29/01/2020 17:09

BitofFun

More that it is irksome when people want to make myths and legends about you and assume your sexuality rather than ever ask you a question and try to have a meaningful interaction. There are fewer things more annoying than some other people wanting to think you are either a rapist or a sex addict simply because you are a little strange to them.

Ispy123 · 29/01/2020 17:16

Oooo oooooo Im hated on the school run. No idea why but 2 Mums in particular are extremely rude in passing. I actually find it quite funny. So in answer to your question,Yes they can.

dottydaily · 29/01/2020 17:17

I have for the most of my career worked with Men,I am female..2 years ago I changed job and worked in a female only office...they instantly disliked me and made no effort with me..I noticed them laughing,emailing each other about me..I lasted 3months and gladly left...they were horrible,Boss (a male) noticed it but would do noting about it...thankfully got the strength to see it as a weakness in there behaviour not mine and moved on..But I can say I would never engage in a conversation with any of those girls should I have the misfortune to ever meet them again..Toxic and no reason just jeluous,bitter,angry and bored...

ShesGotBetteDavisEyes · 29/01/2020 17:17

They are probably threatened by her in some way. Stick up for her.

3rdchristmaslucky · 29/01/2020 17:28

Women are bitches.

Bitches be crazy.

Pinkbonbon · 29/01/2020 17:31

Narcissists and other bully types are like this. It isn't a women thing it's a female narc thing.

Sassanacs · 29/01/2020 17:41

@managedmis snap Grin

Oxfordnono12 · 29/01/2020 17:51

They tend to see something in that person that they dont have themselves, that's where jealousy rears its ugly head.

What those people are doing in your work place is bullying and they need confronted. What horrible people!!

managedmis · 29/01/2020 17:51

The truth is no other woman likes you because you are an outrageous flirt and blatant attention seeker with an overly high opinion of yourself and you clearly have zero interest in the other women in the room. You’d rather be snake charming their husbands just for the kicks.

^

Or maybe she's just a confident, attractive woman?

TinklyLittleLaugh · 29/01/2020 18:54

It’s strange but women tend to bully someone “better” than them, while men tend to bully someone they see as inferior or weaker.

My DD1 tends to attract a bit of bullying: she’s very straightforward and kind and not very good at playing games. She comes across as a bit posh, a bit ditsy, though she’s not (probable ADD) and, though she’s not a stand out beauty, for some reason men always find her attractive.

Interesting about the competing for male attention theory; her two best friends are both lesbians.

Teateaandmoretea · 29/01/2020 19:05

Madcatladyforever - that would really hurt me if I thought you didn’t like me but pretended to be my friend - I’d rather you were just professional and polite

But if you're a nice person she would like you so you have nothing to worry about. I had to do this once with a narc boss, it was truly awful. I blocked her on everything the second she left 😕.

It sounds really nasty OP, but it makes them feel better I guess? I don't get bullying at all.

Teateaandmoretea · 29/01/2020 19:06

It’s strange but women tend to bully someone “better” than them

It's because they are a threat to them, pure and simple.

WellHolyGodMiley · 29/01/2020 19:26

Threat
Fear
Jealousy.

It’s strange but women tend to bully someone “better” than them, while men tend to bully someone they see as inferior or weaker. True @madcatladyforever

My work bully was 15 years younger than I was, she had more qualifications and people seemed to like her but I guess she was just relieved that so far, she was ''in'', whereas I was fine going off on courses on my own, she would check who else was available to go with her. She treated work like campus. I thought she was really ageist at first and there was a part of that going on too, she tried to make the group JUST young so that her place in it was more secure. If it was mixed age group then she could be excluded I guess she felt.
Who knows, but her big fear and I know this, her BIG FEAR was that other people would like me. So pushed water up hill to manipulate the dynamics around us so that she had close friendships with everybody I clicked with and before i knew it she would be whispering every time I came over, or inviting the people I felt I was friendly with out for coffee but hell no I couldn't come too!

WellHolyGodMiley · 29/01/2020 19:30

Yes, I agree with madcatlady and then went on to say that my bully was younger than me, better qualified, but she had less personality and she was living at home with her mum and she couldn't have taken a risk if her life were to depend on it. She wore very very safe clothes as well. YOu would have looked at her and you would have expected an introverted decent sort. ykwim! The ONLY thing she had over me was youth and she was wasting hers in a beige haze. I don't know. I cannot know her thoughts/shadow. She doesn't know herself. But it was a traumatic experience at the time. Got through it though and I will NIP any attempts to exclude me from a group I'm entitled to be a part of much sooner in the future.

lanbro · 29/01/2020 19:31

Definitely, I've been on the receiving end of it...I'm also well spoken, happen to have an underused 'posh' name and have been called 'stuck up' despite these people never having spoken to me. I own my own business and am considered to be quite attractive so despite being kind and volunteering in thr community I've been 'bullied' online by women who have never met me!

WellHolyGodMiley · 29/01/2020 19:32

Sorry it was @TinklyLittleLaugh who said that women tend to bully women who are better than them. I'll add, .......in some way. Not always an obvious way.

WellHolyGodMiley · 29/01/2020 19:42

@Luckystar777 men are completely oblivious to it. COMPLETELY.

Their type of fight is a punch or aggressive words, very outright and so any miniscule manipulation of the social dynamic around a threatened bullying type of woman goes unnoticed by the men.

The woman who was a bitch to me for a year and a half, she was CHARM ITSELF to everybody else, and nobody else noticed or cared :-(

sassafras123 · 29/01/2020 19:54

Much prefer company and conversation of men.

avoidthemeangirls · 29/01/2020 19:57

I agree with alot of the stories on here. It's so sad!

I grew up with a mother threatened by me and who used me. So it's taken a lot of years (and work!) for me to be more comfortable around women. I've had a couple of really bitchy female friends when younger who've been openly rude to me and had no problem dropping me.
Now, I'm in my 40s my mother is less threatened by me but I was describing a young attractive lovely woman I know and she said 'how are you around her?' ??!!!
And the worst treatment I've had is by other mothers in the last few years. Similar to here - two popular women took against me and did their work. I'm a bit of a joke in the group. And there hasn't been much I can do. Women can be subtle and clever, the clever ones say 'she doesn't give much' 'she doesn't put herself out' 'she keeps herself to herself' 'she prefers men' And it works over time. Other women then think they can treat you like shit. Even if none of it is true.
It's the whole smoke/fire thing people fall for.
I've found being a woman really hard!

AlexaAmbidextra · 29/01/2020 20:31

Much prefer company and conversation of men.

I feel sorry for you. There is nothing quite like the supportive friendship of female friends.

WellHolyGodMiley · 29/01/2020 20:33

Most women arent like this.
I still love women, love the company and love being a woman. There are millions of women like me so I would never say or think "I prefer the company of me".

  1. it really depends, women are funny and warm 99 times out of 100.
  2. the people who harmed me were all men.
  3. The people who supported me were women.
    4)I have good female friends. No male friends really 🤔