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Was I right to end things over this?

107 replies

Teensandfuture · 22/12/2019 23:14

Hi, looking for some perspective please.
I've just ended a relationship with someone I was seeing for nearly a year.
On and off relationship, but this time round it did feel like it was going somewhere.
Bit of background :both 40, I have 2 nearly grown up children, they are independent and not involved in the sense that he never stayed at ours, I always stay at his. He's divorced with 2 primary age kids. His ex wife is now engaged and fiance lives at hers. My bf is actually renting a house from the fiancé of his ex wife (I know, weird but bf claims it all works for them). I have never met the children or ex wife or fiance. Firstly when I wanted to, it was too soon and he refused saying just that, later on I didn't really bother and probably avoided it myself. His children are his first priority and rightly so, same as mine to me. We managed to fit in our time together fine.
Although he try so hard to act cool around exwife and fiance, I know his confidence knocked out as fiance is more financially successful and he feels he's losing in comparison and can't match up financially and give kids as much as fiance does.
Couple of examples of bf not managing : they all(bf, kids, exwife and fiancé) were invited by old friend to christening and although bf was enthusiastic going, made up an excuse and didn't go. I was supportive of him going, He lied to me, saying he did go, but actually stayed home in bed.
2nd example : he planned a special birthday shopping trip with his dc and gave it absolutely all he could afford to his dc to make them happy,trying really hard to have a special one to one day. on the way back on the train exwife, fiance and friends apparently were travelling home, dc run to them showing presents and they invited bf for a drink after they all come off the train. All seems civil and nice. Bf is complaining they ruined his special day with dc but of course he never showed it to them, only moaning to me.
Now the drama that happened between us.
I haven't seen him since Monday morning and was going to come back on Monday night after work (he was unwell I was looking after him), he in last minute said he's knackered can we do something Friday instead. I reluctantly agreed. Meanwhile he got delivery of my Christmas present to him and said he's not opening it without me, waiting for me on Friday. Importantly to mention we didn't plan to spend Christmas together, but planned to spend new years eve together. He was going to his parents this Sunday, which is today, I was meant to be home with my kids and their father (we are friendly for big occasions - birthdays, celebrations) Bf was meant to have kids Saturday and going to his parents (live far away) straight after dropping kids off on Sunday. So Friday night was really our last chance at Christmas gift exchange and spending quality time together. I was busy all day, we spoke and texted throughout the day on the phone and no plans were changed , we were to spend evening together. He usually picks me up when I say so/when ready. So when I finished all my commitments, I texted him saying I'm ready. He didnt reply. I called, he refused call texted he's having dinner with kids at their house(complete news to me) . I have asked what's the plan then. He said he'll be there for another hr or do and does it work for me. I have asked if exwife and finance out and that's why he's with the kids? He didn't reply. I found it strange, called again his phone was off. I was getting really pissed off by this point, I knew he's avoiding me, but why I wasn't quite sure. A bit of time passed, I messaged him fine, come get me when you finished as I'm home. He replied he had a drink and can't drive. I've called again asking what is he doing, where is he? Was he in the pub or what. He said he's at kids house and he'll be leaving in 20 minutes. I hear male voice in background, assuming it's fiance. About 20 minutes pass, I'm calling bf again, he picks up, connection is really bad, barely hear him, call back twice, same thing. I'm assuming he left already and get to the zone of better connection. I'm dialing 4th or 5th time, admittedly already pissed off, female on the other line, through a bad connection picks up asking am I calling for (bfs name) I say yes. She says he's spending time with his children. I'm asking if he's drunk or what?thinking why somebody else would pick up? She says she feels offended as if he needs to be drunk to spend time with his children? I said I'm sorry it all came out wrong, what I mean is he's acting weird. She says again he's with children and female to female she wants to tell me that if I'm calling 3/4 times I should get the hint that he doesn't want to speak to me if he doesn't pick up. I said I'm calling because we have plans tonight. She repeats you have plans tonight? I hear male voice in background (assuming fiance) saying it's not that he doesn't want to speak to me, he's just busy with the children. Female hangs up the phone. I feel it's all out of control and I guess trying to apologise, call back again, my call is refused.
I feel absolutely mortified, disrespected and humiliated.
I text bf back saying why did he put me in this position when we had plans and I don't think there's come back from it as I feel massively disrespected by his ex wife and him letting that happen . I end the relationship by text basically and due to upset, telling him few not very nice things, reminded him of how well I treated him and how he repays me now.
I ended up having few drinks and said probably more than I should, amongst them that I don't want to see or speak to him but I want all my things back tomorrow, before he goes to his parents, and I want my present back as I want to return it and get money back, as he doesn't deserve a present from me.
All my messages undelivered until next day. Next day he read it all, not replied. I have called back left voice message saying I want all my stuff today, getting even more annoyed. He replied saying he'll bring my things in the afternoon,which he did. When I seen him he was visibly upset. I have asked him if he's going to apologise to me at all. He said what can I say, nothing left to say, is there? To which I said all your fault, not mine. He didn't reply, just left.
No communication since then.

So that's the story. Is it my fault, have I acted like an idiot or I was right to end things? Should I have been more patient or there's really nothing to salvage here?

OP posts:
justilou1 · 22/12/2019 23:22

He is a weak individual who is not over his ex. You know you deserve so much more.

magoria · 22/12/2019 23:23

You were right to end things.

He could have told you his plans had changed hours earlier. Instead he treated you like shit and also allowed his ex wife to do so.

Why would you want to stay with a man who treats and allows you to be treated this way.

Your only fault was hanging around so long for him when he was completely taking the piss but you weren't to know that at the time.

Sparkle567 · 22/12/2019 23:37

No. He was disrespectful and a complete and utter tool.

Why couldn’t he just reply to you properly? Would of taken 2 mins and instead he humiliated you by letting his ex pick up the phone. What the actual fuck!

You did the right thing.

IamMaisie · 22/12/2019 23:47

Yes, you were right to end things.

Reading your story, I wish you hadn't text or called quite so much, but nobody could really blame you for that. He was an arse and you were understandably frustrated, confused and angry.

Stand your ground. Move on. He doesn't care enough.

FruitcakeOfHate · 22/12/2019 23:53

Good riddance! He's a drama llama and hard work.

Thehavenots · 22/12/2019 23:53

Stay well clear of that one

Teensandfuture · 23/12/2019 00:18

I should of mentioned, he brought everything of mine in his house, including things I've bought for him. Petty things like slippers and drinks from duty free.
I feel shitabout that part and I should have been classier by not asking the presents back, it was anger talking in me.

OP posts:
Teensandfuture · 23/12/2019 00:22

Should have

OP posts:
IncrediblySadToo · 23/12/2019 00:35

You’ve done the right thing.

He acted like a twat. I think you escalated it by ringing so much, but he caused the problem then he allowed his ex wife to answer his phone & speak to you like that - then neither of them answered his phone. That would be a BIG fuck off, from me.

it’s my understanding that you asked for his Christmas present back, not every little thing you’ve ever bought him ?!

As much as it might hurt, you’ve done the right thing! The challenge now is to stay away from him & not get back together!!

Enjoy Christmas with YOUR KIDS, in YOUR home and plan YOUR next year!

EmmiJay · 23/12/2019 00:39

Think of this as a clean slate for the new year. He's spineless. You did the right thing.

MyKingdomForBrie · 23/12/2019 00:40

His fault. Yes you should have stopped calling but totally understandable that you didn't, he was an absolute arsehole not just giving you a clear answer - plans have changed I'm at my ex wife's house and I'm not leaving any time soon. Clearly he didn't because he knew it was a dick move and wanted to avoid the trouble. He sounds weak and very insecure.

Ruderidinghood · 23/12/2019 00:45

You were right to end it. In terms of calling too many times - it was your evening and you had a right to know what was happening. He should have communicated with you. His ex answering the phone was an absolute dick move whoever initiated it. F*CK THEM. I'm glad he looked sad and upset he deserves it.

YoungHun · 23/12/2019 00:48

Yes you def did the right thing. What a weak pathetic individual.

He should have just rang and told you sorrynplans have changed, seeing my kids tonight.

Ex-wife taking the call! Pathetic little man!

And she's loving it too! Let them have their skittle drama together, you're well out of it!

PicsInRed · 23/12/2019 00:55

Google Pathological Demand Avoidance. Does that seem familiar? This behaviour in a relationship will cause you to feel you are going insane.

I find it relevant that you asked for your (Christmas) gifts back and he took that so literally that he brought back literally every gift you ever gave him. I'm not sure that was malicious, rather than a lack of contextual/common sense understanding.

Either way, this can't be fixed, there's no cure, run (and pity the ex wife who has kids with this guy so can never shake him off).

Opentooffers · 23/12/2019 00:57

It reminds me of an OLD experience where I was trying to arrange a meeting with a divorced man. He basically had his kids whenever was convenient to his ex with little notice necessary even though she was living with new partner. We arranged a meeting, he cancelled on the day as his ex asked. I suggested he sorts his arrangements out better before trying dating and perhaps he's not ready yet. He was in, jump! Ok how high? Mode. There guys are not ready for a relationship and still trying to please the ex as have not accepted it's over. Still trying to please to win favour, avoid!!

Opentooffers · 23/12/2019 00:59

...so yes, you were right, stick to your guns, he's not got over the past yet and chasing what he had.

Ihavehadenoughalready · 23/12/2019 01:07

Were you right to end things? Absolutely.

Sounds like you're playing second (or third) fiddle in his drama.

Miniloso · 23/12/2019 01:11

Don’t feel bad about the calls OP, his behaviour was absolutely appalling.

Leave him to it. He’s not worth it and no one deserves what he did to you - it’s wrong on so many levels. Pack up his stuff & give it to charity.

Windmillwhirl · 23/12/2019 03:57

He's beyond rude and immature. He treated you appallingly. Please don't him back.

Windmillwhirl · 23/12/2019 03:57

Please don't take* him back

whonoes · 23/12/2019 05:04

What a prick. He was trying to dump you without actually telling you. You don’t treat somebody that you’re interested in like that. I don’t blame you for being upset. You had plans and he shit all over them. Don’t call him again. Don’t let him back in. He’ll be calling after Xmas when the ex doesn’t want/need him around again. You realise he’s been slagging you off to everybody? Why else would she pick up the phone? What a prick

Claphands · 23/12/2019 05:23

Terrible timing but this relationship was never going anywhere as he’s kept you at arms length to avoid rocking the boat with the ex! Of course his kids come first but you should never have been playing 2nd fiddle to his ex.
Have a great Xmas as planned and New Year, New start!

Fizzysours · 23/12/2019 07:33

Please don't feel bad. All you were asking was to know what the plan for that evening was! If he had told you he was now tied up you could have gone out with a friend. How utterly dismissive he was of your time. And for her to then treat you like a bunny boiler...patronising cow. She is getting off on 'my ex still loves me...look at him, treating his new GF badly'. She is a twat and he is a twat and I would have dumped for this. Have a lovely Xmas, he can spend his pining for his ex.

AgentJohnson · 23/12/2019 08:18

This was never going to work because he isn’t facing up to his ‘issues’ relating to his Ex and children. The female who answered the phone has probably been fed some bullshit story about you because he’s weak and cowardly to be honest.

You dodged a bullet.

KellyHall · 23/12/2019 08:24

You absolutely did the right thing. It sounds like you're well rid to be honest.

You've no reason to have any regrets. Just put it down to experience and move on.

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