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Was I right to end things over this?

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Teensandfuture · 22/12/2019 23:14

Hi, looking for some perspective please.
I've just ended a relationship with someone I was seeing for nearly a year.
On and off relationship, but this time round it did feel like it was going somewhere.
Bit of background :both 40, I have 2 nearly grown up children, they are independent and not involved in the sense that he never stayed at ours, I always stay at his. He's divorced with 2 primary age kids. His ex wife is now engaged and fiance lives at hers. My bf is actually renting a house from the fiancé of his ex wife (I know, weird but bf claims it all works for them). I have never met the children or ex wife or fiance. Firstly when I wanted to, it was too soon and he refused saying just that, later on I didn't really bother and probably avoided it myself. His children are his first priority and rightly so, same as mine to me. We managed to fit in our time together fine.
Although he try so hard to act cool around exwife and fiance, I know his confidence knocked out as fiance is more financially successful and he feels he's losing in comparison and can't match up financially and give kids as much as fiance does.
Couple of examples of bf not managing : they all(bf, kids, exwife and fiancé) were invited by old friend to christening and although bf was enthusiastic going, made up an excuse and didn't go. I was supportive of him going, He lied to me, saying he did go, but actually stayed home in bed.
2nd example : he planned a special birthday shopping trip with his dc and gave it absolutely all he could afford to his dc to make them happy,trying really hard to have a special one to one day. on the way back on the train exwife, fiance and friends apparently were travelling home, dc run to them showing presents and they invited bf for a drink after they all come off the train. All seems civil and nice. Bf is complaining they ruined his special day with dc but of course he never showed it to them, only moaning to me.
Now the drama that happened between us.
I haven't seen him since Monday morning and was going to come back on Monday night after work (he was unwell I was looking after him), he in last minute said he's knackered can we do something Friday instead. I reluctantly agreed. Meanwhile he got delivery of my Christmas present to him and said he's not opening it without me, waiting for me on Friday. Importantly to mention we didn't plan to spend Christmas together, but planned to spend new years eve together. He was going to his parents this Sunday, which is today, I was meant to be home with my kids and their father (we are friendly for big occasions - birthdays, celebrations) Bf was meant to have kids Saturday and going to his parents (live far away) straight after dropping kids off on Sunday. So Friday night was really our last chance at Christmas gift exchange and spending quality time together. I was busy all day, we spoke and texted throughout the day on the phone and no plans were changed , we were to spend evening together. He usually picks me up when I say so/when ready. So when I finished all my commitments, I texted him saying I'm ready. He didnt reply. I called, he refused call texted he's having dinner with kids at their house(complete news to me) . I have asked what's the plan then. He said he'll be there for another hr or do and does it work for me. I have asked if exwife and finance out and that's why he's with the kids? He didn't reply. I found it strange, called again his phone was off. I was getting really pissed off by this point, I knew he's avoiding me, but why I wasn't quite sure. A bit of time passed, I messaged him fine, come get me when you finished as I'm home. He replied he had a drink and can't drive. I've called again asking what is he doing, where is he? Was he in the pub or what. He said he's at kids house and he'll be leaving in 20 minutes. I hear male voice in background, assuming it's fiance. About 20 minutes pass, I'm calling bf again, he picks up, connection is really bad, barely hear him, call back twice, same thing. I'm assuming he left already and get to the zone of better connection. I'm dialing 4th or 5th time, admittedly already pissed off, female on the other line, through a bad connection picks up asking am I calling for (bfs name) I say yes. She says he's spending time with his children. I'm asking if he's drunk or what?thinking why somebody else would pick up? She says she feels offended as if he needs to be drunk to spend time with his children? I said I'm sorry it all came out wrong, what I mean is he's acting weird. She says again he's with children and female to female she wants to tell me that if I'm calling 3/4 times I should get the hint that he doesn't want to speak to me if he doesn't pick up. I said I'm calling because we have plans tonight. She repeats you have plans tonight? I hear male voice in background (assuming fiance) saying it's not that he doesn't want to speak to me, he's just busy with the children. Female hangs up the phone. I feel it's all out of control and I guess trying to apologise, call back again, my call is refused.
I feel absolutely mortified, disrespected and humiliated.
I text bf back saying why did he put me in this position when we had plans and I don't think there's come back from it as I feel massively disrespected by his ex wife and him letting that happen . I end the relationship by text basically and due to upset, telling him few not very nice things, reminded him of how well I treated him and how he repays me now.
I ended up having few drinks and said probably more than I should, amongst them that I don't want to see or speak to him but I want all my things back tomorrow, before he goes to his parents, and I want my present back as I want to return it and get money back, as he doesn't deserve a present from me.
All my messages undelivered until next day. Next day he read it all, not replied. I have called back left voice message saying I want all my stuff today, getting even more annoyed. He replied saying he'll bring my things in the afternoon,which he did. When I seen him he was visibly upset. I have asked him if he's going to apologise to me at all. He said what can I say, nothing left to say, is there? To which I said all your fault, not mine. He didn't reply, just left.
No communication since then.

So that's the story. Is it my fault, have I acted like an idiot or I was right to end things? Should I have been more patient or there's really nothing to salvage here?

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Teensandfuture · 19/01/2020 10:01

rvby
I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with a person like you, if you think meaning something to you after a year of a relationship is not right and if you giving out hints, instead of communicating properly.

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Cobblersandhogwash · 19/01/2020 10:46

He sounds like a dick. A total dick who is threatened by people more successful than he is.

You are so well rid of this prat. He sounds weak, nambypamby and deeply unattractive as a result.

He was incredibly rude to you.

Don't demean yourself by ever contacting him again. I'd block and not allow him contact with you at all.

Bluntness100 · 19/01/2020 11:01

Look op it's over. Move on. It was clearly ending anyway. You have extreme reactions to being ignored/not getting what you want, and he was clearly trying to avoid the drama, neither of you handled it well or covered yourself in glory.

The things you've been texting him haven't been pleasant. To put it mildly, Stop contacting him now and accept it's over.

Teensandfuture · 19/01/2020 11:15

bluntness

That's the thing it wasn't clear it's ending as there was no indication he wanted to end it.

Before that night I actually thought it's going really well. He was loving, thoughtful, communicating properly, we had plans for future. I was actually thinking we are getting closer and relationship progressing onto next stage.

To me it was a forced break up, I had to do what I had to do in order to preserve respect for myself.

I'm still struggling with what happened as I couldn't imagine he'd do that to me ie his ex wife, I wanted an apology. I got it recently but it wasn't clear cut apology, which made me feel worse. I thought the apology would make me feel better.

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SandyY2K · 19/01/2020 11:26

You know...maybe it just wasn't meant to be between the two of you. He probably knew that, but some people don't like being alone.

Some people respond to messages immediately, others don't.

Considering you already broke up over this issue, firm expectations should have been put in place when you got back together...then if he didn't stick to them, you break it off in a dignified way.

All that calling and texting made it seem like you had a problem. He clearly heard the phone and didnt want to talk to you at that time.

I know you say his behaviour triggered you, but it was excessive...I understand that different people behave differently in the same situation, so that's just your character.

I think deep down you knew he probably wasn't fully over his Ex.

Teensandfuture · 19/01/2020 11:38

Sandy

Yes, I know I should have been more dignified on that occasion but considering it was just before Christmas, I just forked out some money (not very expensive but not a token gift by any means) and put good thought into his present, just few days prior did a major tidy up in his house on my day off work(because he's useless at this) , was worried about his health issue few days before, rushing to help and buying medicines, just booked time off work for holiday, basically I just got more invested into this and yes, after all my effort I wasn't dignified in just accepting him ignoring our plans.

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NeedAnExpert · 19/01/2020 11:39

I was accused of being forceful when I wanted an apology for shit treatment and wanting to know why he did what he did.

You cannot demand explanations or apologies from other people. Hmm

Bluntness100 · 19/01/2020 11:46

Honestly it's been over for a month. Really you need to try to accept it and move on.

Teensandfuture · 19/01/2020 11:52

need

I very much can if I think someone treated me wrong and I didn't , he gave me that apology and explanation and is ready to discuss more, if I want to..

Not that I want to, of course.

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Teensandfuture · 19/01/2020 11:53

bluntness
Thank you for all your input.

I'm trying to come to terms with that and hence this thread, I'll get there hopefully, thanks again x

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NeedAnExpert · 19/01/2020 11:59

I very much can if I think someone treated me wrong and I didn't , he gave me that apology and explanation and is ready to discuss more, if I want to..

I can’t consider a forced apology (and good god did you force it) an apology.

I fear you’re going to struggle with relationships if you don’t learn from this. Please tell me you don’t manage people. 😬

Teensandfuture · 19/01/2020 12:04

need

I don't manage people, I'm just a skilled qualified professional person.

My soft skills are shit, as you can see, but have very strong technical expertise 😁

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PennyGold · 19/01/2020 12:25

I think you've both had a lucky escape.. I don't think either one of you is ready for a relationship.
As PP have said, it's been a month.. stop dwelling on it (if nothing has happened in a month, nothing is going to happen) and get over it.

Teensandfuture · 19/01/2020 12:43

Penny

Come on, month is nothing when emotions run high and people upset with each other so I completely disagree. I've had prolonged periods of nothing (with other people) , then suddenly they are all remorseful and apologetic. At least 4 previous experience, one with exh, one with long term ex partner, 2 with short term dates.

Besides the point of course.

I know I'm not the easiest person around, but more often than not I get apologies later on.

There must be something good in me after all,if that's how it goes..

I don't want to get back together with him, clearly he's too weak and just not a man enough.

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PennyGold · 19/01/2020 12:49

You obviously think you're entitled to an apology (and I do too) but you also have actions to apologise for too.
So you're going to dwell on it until you get an apology? You may be waiting a long time, and life is too short. What will happen if he never apologies?

Sargass0 · 19/01/2020 12:59

You say you are a strong woman, yet what I'm getting from this thread is the opposite.
You appear to have had doubts about ending it otherwise you wouldn't have asked the question in the first place, so because of those doubts you are now seeking validation from strangers that you have done the right thing and want us all to say yes he's a twat etc.

Because you are not getting total validation, you're adding posts that suit your narrative- and you seem to want to manipulate/control the thread to get the answers that you want to hear.

You sound quite domineering and a month later are still trying to get him to dance to your tune. I think the real issue is you need to "have the last word" I think you expected him to come grovelling back and because he hasn't you feel that you have "lost"

Real strength is walking away, knowing that it was right for you to end it and then not give a shit.

TwentyViginti · 19/01/2020 13:14

You saying you tidied his house because he's 'useless' at it, coupled with him allowing his ex to answer HIS phone and tell you to get the hint he doesn't want to talk to you, screams manchild to me.

Teensandfuture · 19/01/2020 13:59

Sargass

I'm absolutely self made, all I have in my life is down to my hard work only. I've got no support as I'm a single parent for the last ten years and zero family around, so yes having my life together in this difficult situation and winning absolutely makes me strong woman.

Having said that, precisely because I've no one this relationship meant to me so much more than to the average person with full support network ie mum down the road, sisters, cousins etc

He has all that not too far away so of course I wouldn't mean so much to him as he meant to me.

Walking out from your only close "supportive" person does take strength. It doesn't mean I want to end up completely alone but that's the reality. It's difficult to start from scratch with someone else, allow me to be human please.

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Teensandfuture · 19/01/2020 14:04

"penny*

I've apologised for my actions already, I've no problem apologising when I know I've been wrong.

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Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 19/01/2020 14:19

Sargass0
I completely agree.

Op, you ended it with him so why are you trying to stir it all up again? It seems like he's riled you up because he hasn't been begging you to come back, he's accepted that you've ended it and left you alone.

If you didn't want to end the relationship then you shouldn't have said it. If you did want to end it, then why start texting him again?

If I were him if just block you - no one needs this much drama in their life.

Teensandfuture · 19/01/2020 14:29

sargass

You're right.

I thought the explanation and apology will make me feel better, it didn't.

It wasn't meant to be a drama but I can see why it is.

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Brazi103 · 20/01/2020 07:04

He is honestly correct in that you are too full on and your temper shines through. You are so intense. Your thread and updates show this. He treated you badly and you were right to end it but take a look at your own behaviour. Why are you even engaging with all this. You sound obsessed by it all. I think you really need to leave him alone now.

Bluntness100 · 20/01/2020 09:39

Op can you try to widen your social circle? It does come across that you're a bit needy and full on, possibly widening your social circle and not relying solely on one person may help you.

Teensandfuture · 20/01/2020 10:09

bluntness
Ye if social sircle can replace family and a partner, I'm all for it 😂

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Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 20/01/2020 10:14

Friends don't replace family and a partner, they are in addition to and are necessary. No one person can meet all of your needs and that's a very unhealthy dynamic.

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