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Scammed on a dating site

85 replies

PermanentTemporary · 08/12/2019 11:20

Just wondered if anyone else had experienced this. I'm assuming most people are savvy enough not to actually send money - I was an idiot. But wondered if it had been tried out with you.

It happened on a site I wont name except to say that it rhymes with Bardian OldMates Grin

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Poissonpoison · 08/12/2019 11:22

Oh no Flowers

PermanentTemporary · 08/12/2019 11:23

Yeah it wasnt nice and sent me into a bit of a tailspin. Felt a fool.

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TheQueef · 08/12/2019 11:25

Ah crap. Did he take you for a lot of did you realuse?

AlternativePerspective · 08/12/2019 11:28

What happened? I have another thread here where I’ve been playing a scammer on a game I play. Claims he’s in the C I A on top secret business. Grin

‘I’m sorry you got scammed but anyone giving money to a stranger they’ve never actually met in person needs to probably step back from internet dating for a while. These scams prey on the vulnerable and the gullible, but equally they are well known and people should tread more carefully.

PermanentTemporary · 08/12/2019 11:28

I sent one big payment. I knew, really, or at least part of me did. Reported the crap out of it afterwards which helped - saying it out loud is a really big reality check. Online and messaging is a bit like daydreams of winning the lottery.

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Sleepthiefismyfavourite · 08/12/2019 11:30

Oh no how much did you send? Is it definitely a scam?

BitOfFun · 08/12/2019 11:32

These people are usually very skilled at manipulating women, tailoring their messages to the kind of person they think you are looking for. They love-bomb you, and know exactly what buttons to press to get a pay-out.

They also rely on your embarrassment and sense of shame to avoid being reported to the police.

It's a scam as old as time, but somehow it never gets stale. Normal people look for the best in others, but unfortunately their lack of cynicism can bite them on the arse in the face of these callous grifters.

PermanentTemporary · 08/12/2019 11:33

Not saying how much! They're professionals, they work out what is a good amount to hustle out of you. All scams are based on you wanting something that is too good to be true, in this case a relationship. You can't order love like a pizza and if someone is attempting to make you think you can, they're softening you up.

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tiggertogger · 08/12/2019 11:34

What was the story? Probably a good thing to share so others can recognise and not get sucked in? Also if you report to police sometimes they can help if the bank provides details of account holder if in the uk.

nocluewhattodoo · 08/12/2019 11:35

So sorry this happened OP, I agree that it would be a good idea to share the scenario so others don't get drawn in

PermanentTemporary · 08/12/2019 11:36

Reporting to the police and bank quickly helped a lot.

What would have helped more was listening to the voice that told me that if i told a friend, they'd tell me not to pay. Listen to that voice, ask a sensible friend, ask Mumsnet. Or just dont be gullible...

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PermanentTemporary · 08/12/2019 11:56

Ok here's the setup. And I know exactly how ridiculous it looks in cold blood.

Nice message from man with attractive picture. Amazingly he's a widower, just like I lost my husband, but it's a few years ago so he sounds ready to meet someone.

Red flag: changes in what he says. At first hes been alone all that 5 years. Then ver time I say what I've been up to and he alters his story to fit mine.

Always lots of lovebombing as bitoffun said. I'm beautiful, I write well, I'm just what he's been looking for. Fact is, I'm 50 and nice looking at best. Reality check. Who tells someone they're beautiful after a couple of pictures?

Warning flag: nothing checkable in his details. Anyone can be cautious though.

More lovebombing. Chatty messages in the morning. Asks questions and engages with the answers.

Red flag: says hes going away, tomorrow, to a glamorous location for work and would I like to come with him. Just to point out the obvious: people don't do this. Obviously I cant go at 24 hours notice but even though he's done nothing, this offer broke down a significant chunk of normal non-gullibility in me.

Nice messages 'from the airport'. He wishes I could be there.

Sudden message 'from the destination airport' - hes been detained by customs because of a new currency restriction, all his stuff held back, he needs money to get out. Here's his bank account link, could I please please transfer enough money to cover the payment and then pay money to the account details provided here by 'an agent' at the destination.

I mean, for God's sake. Who would fall for this?

More red flags. He has literally nobody else he can ask. Really?? An alleged professional with a job??

At this point, just block them already. However, I went down a rabbit hole of requesting details and trying to check them. Don't- that just means you're engaging with it and they have sucked you in. People dont get into these situations and ask total strangers for help.

They also gave me multiple options. Putting my details into his bank account and trying to withdraw money was obviously immensely dodgy, so I didn't do that, but it made paying into an ordinary uk account seem less dodgy for some reason. There will be a cloud of details and flummery and flattery- just stop and check in with a real life friend if you are feeling the pull.

Anyway, sensible people will be unable to see what could possibly have possessed me. I learned a hard lesson, that the right approach at the wrong time can catch me, that I'm stupider and more vulnerable than I thought.

Hope someone somewhere reads this and thinks twice.

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Poissonpoison · 08/12/2019 12:37

You poor thing, it happens to so many people. I'm sorry this happened to you Flowers

PermanentTemporary · 08/12/2019 12:52

Thanks poisson, much appreciated.

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PrussianBlueVelvet · 08/12/2019 13:10

I am so sorry this happened to you... I hope you meet the right person soon. Do not give up! x

Notcoolmum · 08/12/2019 13:16

Thanks for sharing the details @PermanentTemporary I know that can't have been easy.
I hope you manage to get your money back and I'm truly sorry that happened to you.
There are so many chancers and charmers our there. And if someone hits the right never we can be capable of giving away more than we thought. Whether that's financial or emotional.

AutumnConker · 08/12/2019 13:19

Why shouldn’t she “give up”? I hate that kind of “you must be in a relationship” mentality. Leads to all kind of awfulness as these boards testify. Online dating can be pretty shit for the sensitive and vulnerable.

Hope things look up soon OP.

PermanentTemporary · 08/12/2019 13:29

Oh I'm totally giving up Grin I think it's a really big flashing sign to stop dating that a bit of flattery on a screen made me ready to give up almost anything.

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which1 · 08/12/2019 13:31

"BardianOldMaytes"

Hmmm

What could it be....

You made one miserable person smile at least.

Sorry for your predicament.

So many people are truly black hearted...

bigchris · 08/12/2019 13:35

Did you ever meet him?

PermanentTemporary · 08/12/2019 13:37

What, did I meet the bloke in an internet cafe who is typing from a script headed 'Middle Aged Women - opening lines to use'? No. I spoke to him on the phone and saw a few pictures of someone.

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user1497997754 · 08/12/2019 13:37

This happened to a friend of mine the difference was they had actually met up a few times. He phoned her from the airport he said he worked for Amazon and was returning from India on a business trip. Said exactly the same thing as your guy....she didn't send any and blocked him. His name was Harry.....it's not the same bloke is it x

PermanentTemporary · 08/12/2019 13:39

It could well have been but in this case the name Bjorn [international] Glad she was more sensible.

Oh the other red flag was that he removed his profile from the dating site as soon as wed exchanged messages.

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Lulualla · 08/12/2019 13:48

I always wonder who actually falls for these (other than confused elderly).

You knew. You knew straight away that it was a scam, but there was just a part of you hoping that you were the one in a million shot. That this had actually really happened and you were needed. I'm sorry it happened to you but please learn from this.

Dyrne · 08/12/2019 13:57

I’m sorry this happened to you, OP. I know you’re beating yourself up about how it was “obviously” a scam but the truth is they prey on the vulnerable, people who need that connection with someone. When you’re in the middle of it I can see how you would think it’s genuine.

Flowers