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Need to end this 'friendship' but how without hurting her?

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Cornishqween · 04/12/2019 20:46

I'm hoping for some advice about a friendship I've had on and off since I was 4 years old.Apologies this is a long one but I dont want to drip feed.

We were best friends all through childhood, we went to the same primary school in the same class and remained close even though we went to separate secondary schools. Our friendship wasn't the best and to be honest she regularly dropped me for others and would leave me sat on my own after promising to come over for a sleepover etc. I have no idea why I wanted to remain friends with her but we talked every day and our parents ended up being close friends too.

When we got into our late teens and early twenties we saw less of each other, and I met someone and got engaged. I asked her to be my maid of honour, to which she agreed, but wouldn't make time for either of the dress fittings, didn't attend the hen do (despite it being a low key chilled event in our local pub - arranged by me) and then decided to move abroad just before my wedding day. I reluctantly asked my sister in law to take over since my best mate wasn't even sure if she could now make the wedding at all. I was gutted, and told her I'd assumed she'd be there for the day. She managed to get a flight home but said she had no option but to leave my wedding before the speeches. She wasn't in any of our photos, and of course didn't bother getting us a gift or a card.

After the wedding I decided to take a break from her as tbh I didnt feel like she was much of a mate. She ended up dating my husbands best mate a while after though and sort of shoehorned her way back into our lives. While she was with my husbands mate we saw loads of her, mainly because he would come over to ours loads and she tagged along, and soon we were like our old selves, it was an easy friendship basically.

I found out not long after that I was pregnant, and when our eldest was born we asked her and her boyfriend to be godparents (given that they were our oldest friends). He was always amazing with our little one, but she wasn't bothered. I kind of understood it as she was at a different stage in her life.After a while their relationship broke down and she took it quite badly. I tried to support her the best I could but with a young baby it was hard to be as available as she wanted. She didn't understand that I'd want to nap if I'd been up all night, and that my little one would come first.

About a month after the breakdown of her relationship she rushed into another with a guy who was related to her friend. They decided to try for a baby almost immediately (to get her own back on the bloke she'd broken up with) despite me trying to reason with her and make her see sense. She didn't get pregnant straight away thankfully but kept trying and trying despite the fact they weren't living together and she was in and out of jobs every 6 months.I feel like she barely knew him.

She eventually did fall pregnant but had an early miscarriage and I think her world just sort of fell apart. She couldn't function and was obsessed with trying again and again for another baby. She hated her friends who were pregnant after the miscarriage, and said they were rubbing it in her face. I too fell with my second baby and almost felt guilty to share this with her. She barely spoke to me throughout the pregnancy and didn't meet my baby until he was 8 months old.

She did manage to conceive again, and thankfully her little one was born safely but she'd treated most of her other friends so badly that I was the only one she could really talk to or confide in. She moved away from the area completely, with no job and little money. I shared my concern that she would be too far away for most to visit with ease (over an hours drive). She was adamant that moving away would be the change she needed and that she wouldn't be isolated.

Fast forward a few more months and our friendship became a way for her to vent, and every conversation we had was about how awful her other friends and family are " nobody visits me, I'm alone, I have no money, I hate my life etc" I felt sorry for her but also had problems of my own. She would never ask how me or my kids were doing, how our lives were going, never wanted to go for coffee (just wanted to sit and have me listen to hour long conversations about her problems) and the worry I had for her started to wane.

This has carried on now for several years, with this friend sort of using me like a therapist. She calls me usually 3 times a day, starting at 7am usually, and if I don't answer she calls and calls and calls until I pick up. If I ignore her she starts sending text messages asking why I'm not picking up. When we talk she rattles off her problems, usually with her child screaming in the background - to which she responds "f*cking shut up" or similar :( and if I try to interject with advice or a way to help she shuts every possible option down. She threw herself a baby shower recently and caused a huge argument in the middle of the shower with her family, I mean screaming swear words at them in front of a room full of people, including her 3 yr old ds and 8mo dn and the very few friends she has left. No one knew where to look or what to say. I actually picked up her child and led him out of the room and away from the screaming.

She is now hounding me hourly and I just cant cope with it. My husband is losing patience and wants me to block her completely. The only reason I haven't is because I've known her my whole life. I flinch every time she calls my phone. She is constantly hounding me on social media too.

I don't know how to get a back bone and just stop this nonsense. I've never been able to handle conflict and know she is going to slate me to whoever will listen and probably her family (who at times have been like a second family to me)

Just am lost and could do with some advice really

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Cornishqween · 04/12/2019 20:46

Wow - that really was long Blush

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OldElPasoHadAChicken · 04/12/2019 20:50

I think just block in everything and disengage completely.

Move on like she never existed and ask mutual friends not to pass info back and forth because you've drawn a line under things.

Cornishqween · 04/12/2019 20:52

I think that's my only option since I'm too wimpy to confront her - and dont think there is a nice way of saying it

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Lemond1fficult · 04/12/2019 20:53

Block block block.

In the nicest possible way you sound like a bit of a pushover. She takes your time and attention and gives nothing back. And now it's affecting your husband too.

block and if she comes over, get your husband to make her go away.

Cornishqween · 04/12/2019 20:57

Lemond I AM a pushover - that's how its gone on so bloody long (31 years to be precise)

Thankfully she wont be visiting as its too much effort for her to visit me - it was always me navigating the 1 hr drive around two flipping school runs Angry

Would you literally block and have no contact immediately? Rather than slowly stop answering the phone and messages?

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sableandI · 04/12/2019 20:58

You've been a really good friend to her and she's taken advantage this. It will be a big loss to her to loose such a lovely friend. I agree with blocking her.

Butterisbest · 04/12/2019 21:02

I'd just block her immediately, if you take the long drawn out way, gradually tailing off, you'll still be keeping an eye out for messages and worrying what will she do next.
If you just cut her off that's the end right there and then

Cornishqween · 04/12/2019 21:03

I hope so - I have lots of lovely friends in my life and the other day I sat and thought of all the amazing women in my life, and how much I enjoy their company and the support we give each other, and I felt like an idiot for keeping this friendship going when I'm nothing but a shoulder to cry on. Its not just me - she treats everyone this way, but I'm old enough to choose who I'm friends with, and I don't feel like I should waste precious family time on someone who I mean nothing to :(

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Cornishqween · 04/12/2019 21:05

Would you block the family too? I know she regularly checks what other people are doing on their social media through her mum and siblings accounts, she would 100% make them go through my social media to see what I was doing

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Elieza · 04/12/2019 21:08

I would have to contact her before blocking. I couldnt just ignore or block her. Imagine how hurtful that would be. Especially if she’s already not coping too well.
How about “I’m not going to be in touch with you for a while as things have been getting really busy at work (or; I’m having a bit of a tough time at the moment with child’s name) and I’m a bit stressed out. I know you’ll understand as you've been stressed out recently too. Let’s catch up in the new year at some point when things are better for both of us”.

I know it’s not the full truth but perhaps it will be more gentle than the reality of “you’re stressing the living fucking shit out of me and everyone around you, grow the fuck up and stop using me as a free counsellor”.
Xmas Grin

BumbleBeee69 · 04/12/2019 21:09

Why are you torturing yourself over this OP ? what does this woman need to do for you to say, you treat me appallingly.. goodbye ?
Seriously.. in the kindest possible way... you need get a grip and hit the block button today. Flowers

Hellbentwellwent · 04/12/2019 21:10

Aw op you’ve been there for her and she’s abusing it.

I wouldn’t just block her though as you’ll torture yourself with worry and guilt. You need to get it all of your chest and give her the option of starting to value you and support you in return or sling her hook. She’ll sling her hook because it doesn’t sound like she knows how to empathise with anyone apart from herself but at least you won’t feel so guilty in the long run.

Send her a message and lay it all out. Apologise for not having the conversation face to face bit your just too emotional about the whole thing and you don’t want to have an argument. Ask her to read what you’ve said and contact you (by return message not over the phone) in a few days when she’s had a chance to think everything over and if she thinks there’s still a friendship to salvage

billy1966 · 04/12/2019 21:12

OP, what a drama!
People like this think of no-one but themselves.
She'll be fine.

You know what you have to do. There isn't any other way.

Block her and her family on everything and move on.

Cornishqween · 04/12/2019 21:15

Haha Elieza I'd love to tell the truth but it wouldn't go down well.

It wouldn't be a lie - my eldest is struggling massively emotionally and I've been in and out of school over his lack of confidence, I work every day, am studying at college and do 80% of the childcare in our house so I am stressed.

I hate the idea of blocking and running off, its why I've sort of stopped answering most of the calls, but not completely. I then message and am a little vague - I just say I've been manic and is she ok. Its always "just calling for a chat" - but she would call me 3,4,5 times one after the other, even just for a chat

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Qcng · 04/12/2019 21:17

To be fair, she sounds very damaged.
Emotionally immature with a very low EQ. She obviously struggles with all relationships, friends, aquantances and intimate partners.

You are within your rights to say ok, I've done my bit, I've supported you at my own expense since we were 4, and enough is enough.

Emotional vampires are not good for your quality of life.

You don't need to give your reasons just block.

Pinkette06 · 04/12/2019 21:17

I don't think I'd block family as they haven't done wrong. But I think this friendship needs to end as it sounds mentally draining and doesn't even sound like she appreciates or is nice to you in the slightest

Kitty2020 · 04/12/2019 21:18

You are the last man standing.
100% everyone else has blocked her.
That’s why you are getting it all.
You should have cut her off years and years ago.

Block her and her family on absolutely everything RIGHT NOW and then put your feet up and pour yourself a glass of wine to celebrate your new found freedom. Let us know how it feels....

This woman has stolen your time, your joy, your peace of mind - all of those things you could have been experiencing with your DH, DCs, radiator friends and family.

She doesn’t deserve an explanation - she never gave you any. She will be used to being ghosted - it will have happened before.

Don’t worry what others will think about you if she bad mouths you - they will disregard it as she has form.

Seriously don’t waste another nanosecond on her.

Phoebesgift · 04/12/2019 21:22

I'd text her and explain why you're blocking her. Then just do it and look forward and try and forget her. She is not a friend, she's used and a taker. Her problems are not your problems.

Hopoindown31 · 04/12/2019 21:22

I wouldn't engage with her. However you've given an awful lot of detail on her life on here, that might not be wise or fair.

Kitty2020 · 04/12/2019 21:28

Don’t give her any reasons - none will be acceptable to her. It will just be another maggot hole for her to burrow into - to whip up a drama over. Don’t even text - she will misconstrue every word and read hatred into a semi colon !!!

She sounds unhinged - her family need to step up and seek professional help. Keep well away from this shit storm. Nothing to do with you - but you could get covered in it.

Please free up your finite emotional and physical capacity to support your DC in need and give yourself a rest - not be drained by this nasty loon.

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Cornishqween · 04/12/2019 21:33

I tried to not be too specific and changed some details but felt it important to explain why I've hung around for so long.

Thanks for your replies - you've echoed what my husband has been urging me to do for years. I think I need to just rip the plaster off. I feel sad about it but she wouldn't give a damn and I would be just another person to moan about. I dont want to waste another moment worrying about her problems or when shell call. I actually want to enjoy christmas with my family without her hounding me.

Ive been such a fool

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BaolFan · 04/12/2019 21:36

I would send one message - as being ghosted isn't nice. Tell her that you don't have the time to give her the support and engagement that she wants and that you need to focus on your own family, but that you wish her well for the future.

Then block - and absolutely block her family if she has form for using their SM to keep tabs.

Qcng · 04/12/2019 21:37

Don't feel bad about yourself.
Use this opportunity to embrace people that bring happiness to your life.

Elieza · 04/12/2019 21:43

I still vote for one message and block. You have known her a long time. Two wrongs don’t make a right. Message and block and move on.

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