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Need to end this 'friendship' but how without hurting her?

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Cornishqween · 04/12/2019 20:46

I'm hoping for some advice about a friendship I've had on and off since I was 4 years old.Apologies this is a long one but I dont want to drip feed.

We were best friends all through childhood, we went to the same primary school in the same class and remained close even though we went to separate secondary schools. Our friendship wasn't the best and to be honest she regularly dropped me for others and would leave me sat on my own after promising to come over for a sleepover etc. I have no idea why I wanted to remain friends with her but we talked every day and our parents ended up being close friends too.

When we got into our late teens and early twenties we saw less of each other, and I met someone and got engaged. I asked her to be my maid of honour, to which she agreed, but wouldn't make time for either of the dress fittings, didn't attend the hen do (despite it being a low key chilled event in our local pub - arranged by me) and then decided to move abroad just before my wedding day. I reluctantly asked my sister in law to take over since my best mate wasn't even sure if she could now make the wedding at all. I was gutted, and told her I'd assumed she'd be there for the day. She managed to get a flight home but said she had no option but to leave my wedding before the speeches. She wasn't in any of our photos, and of course didn't bother getting us a gift or a card.

After the wedding I decided to take a break from her as tbh I didnt feel like she was much of a mate. She ended up dating my husbands best mate a while after though and sort of shoehorned her way back into our lives. While she was with my husbands mate we saw loads of her, mainly because he would come over to ours loads and she tagged along, and soon we were like our old selves, it was an easy friendship basically.

I found out not long after that I was pregnant, and when our eldest was born we asked her and her boyfriend to be godparents (given that they were our oldest friends). He was always amazing with our little one, but she wasn't bothered. I kind of understood it as she was at a different stage in her life.After a while their relationship broke down and she took it quite badly. I tried to support her the best I could but with a young baby it was hard to be as available as she wanted. She didn't understand that I'd want to nap if I'd been up all night, and that my little one would come first.

About a month after the breakdown of her relationship she rushed into another with a guy who was related to her friend. They decided to try for a baby almost immediately (to get her own back on the bloke she'd broken up with) despite me trying to reason with her and make her see sense. She didn't get pregnant straight away thankfully but kept trying and trying despite the fact they weren't living together and she was in and out of jobs every 6 months.I feel like she barely knew him.

She eventually did fall pregnant but had an early miscarriage and I think her world just sort of fell apart. She couldn't function and was obsessed with trying again and again for another baby. She hated her friends who were pregnant after the miscarriage, and said they were rubbing it in her face. I too fell with my second baby and almost felt guilty to share this with her. She barely spoke to me throughout the pregnancy and didn't meet my baby until he was 8 months old.

She did manage to conceive again, and thankfully her little one was born safely but she'd treated most of her other friends so badly that I was the only one she could really talk to or confide in. She moved away from the area completely, with no job and little money. I shared my concern that she would be too far away for most to visit with ease (over an hours drive). She was adamant that moving away would be the change she needed and that she wouldn't be isolated.

Fast forward a few more months and our friendship became a way for her to vent, and every conversation we had was about how awful her other friends and family are " nobody visits me, I'm alone, I have no money, I hate my life etc" I felt sorry for her but also had problems of my own. She would never ask how me or my kids were doing, how our lives were going, never wanted to go for coffee (just wanted to sit and have me listen to hour long conversations about her problems) and the worry I had for her started to wane.

This has carried on now for several years, with this friend sort of using me like a therapist. She calls me usually 3 times a day, starting at 7am usually, and if I don't answer she calls and calls and calls until I pick up. If I ignore her she starts sending text messages asking why I'm not picking up. When we talk she rattles off her problems, usually with her child screaming in the background - to which she responds "f*cking shut up" or similar :( and if I try to interject with advice or a way to help she shuts every possible option down. She threw herself a baby shower recently and caused a huge argument in the middle of the shower with her family, I mean screaming swear words at them in front of a room full of people, including her 3 yr old ds and 8mo dn and the very few friends she has left. No one knew where to look or what to say. I actually picked up her child and led him out of the room and away from the screaming.

She is now hounding me hourly and I just cant cope with it. My husband is losing patience and wants me to block her completely. The only reason I haven't is because I've known her my whole life. I flinch every time she calls my phone. She is constantly hounding me on social media too.

I don't know how to get a back bone and just stop this nonsense. I've never been able to handle conflict and know she is going to slate me to whoever will listen and probably her family (who at times have been like a second family to me)

Just am lost and could do with some advice really

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SomeHalfHumanCreatureThing · 04/12/2019 21:44

Yep. Short message then block.

Honestly, you'll feel so relieved

sonjadog · 04/12/2019 21:45

I would do it more gently as she obviously has issues and she has been a friend for such a long time. Send a message saying what Elieza said, then block her until after New Year some time and then unblock and see what happens. It might be at that point you can set a new pattern for communication, or it might be that you have to make it a permanent blocking then. I wouldn't block her family. So what if they can see you and she can see your social media via them? Do you not want her to see anything at all about your life?

Drum2018 · 04/12/2019 21:49

If you do feel the need to let her know then I'd simply text once more to say the level of her calls and messages are too intense and you need to take a step back - then block her everywhere.

Kitty2020 · 04/12/2019 21:51

If you feel you want to send a vanilla message - will you also make sure that it is clear she knows that you will be “signing off” - ie blocking immediately?

Or will do you plan to wait for her to respond?

Will you take her call?

Do you plan to engage further with her to explain yourself further?

She will say something v nasty to hurt you if you give her the chance. So take yourself out of punching distance and decide how much engagement you will give her before you send the text.

Cornishqween · 04/12/2019 21:53

I'm worried I think because if I send a message saying I no longer want to be friends she will just lose it. She is emotionally unstable and wont take it in the way I'd intend it. She'd be raging, and full of hatred and it wouldn't change a thing, she'd still continue to treat her friends and family the same way.

I sort of thought I'd slip away quietly and gradually so it wouldn't be so obvious Blush

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ButtonMoonLoon · 04/12/2019 21:55

Have you ever told her that the level of contact is too intense?
Clearly she is not at all self aware, I wonder how she might respond if this was pointed out to her.
I agree that she sounds very damaged, at very least she has attachment issues

Cornishqween · 04/12/2019 21:58

yep I feel like Elieza's message was sensitive - I think I could do one like that.

Might just mention how busy I am with work and everything else and will catch up with her in the new year.
I have no idea why but I just feel like a bitch in all of this :(

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iamtinkabella · 04/12/2019 21:59

jesus OP im pretty mich in the same boat as you right now and the only thing i can describe it as is its burning my brains out. I feel like a can't breathe with the friendship.

Im boting for message and block, wish i would listen to my own adviceGrinBlushim a pushover too

iamtinkabella · 04/12/2019 22:00

ugh typos * much voting

Cornishqween · 04/12/2019 22:02

Button I haven't ever really mentioned it - I just have now stopped answering every call.

She just doesn't handle any sort of criticism at all well. One of her siblings tried to suggest something recently that might help her and she went ballistic. It wasn't even a criticism, she was just explaining how she saves money when things are tight and my friend just lost it and refused to speak to her for 2 weeks.

I guess I'm a bit scared of having 'the chat' with her because I know the reaction wont be a good one.

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Cornishqween · 04/12/2019 22:03

GAH pretty unanimous !

I'll message her tomorrow after I've ignored the 7.30am wake up call Grin

Thanks everyone for the little dose of courage!

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Kitty2020 · 04/12/2019 22:07

What are you going to say?
Will you tell her that you are blocking her upfront?
Or will you accept some to and fro and then tell her?
Will you have all of the SM blocked before?

FoamingAtTheUterus · 04/12/2019 22:09

Contact her husband and tell him if he doesn't make her get professional help you'll be contacting social services. That's an awful environment for children to be in. And if a man was doing that he wouldn't have custody, let alone everyone tip toeing around him enabling his behaviour.

PrettyPurse · 04/12/2019 22:14

I agree with what others have said, i.e send a message explaining you've got a lot on
.. but your sure she'll understand as she does too.... but that you're not going to be available to speak till after Christmas.

I don't think ghosting is fair.

You do need to protect yourself though because if you crack with the pressure, who will step in to help you? Will it be her
.. no. In which case protect yourself

Phoenix76 · 04/12/2019 22:15

I totally understand your reservations. I had a similar “friend “, she was very well known for her aggression, she’d reduced grown men to tears with her spite fullness. Every time my phone binged and it was her it actually made me feel sick, relentless she was! Anyway, I imagined living the rest of my life like this and it felt grim. I did what several pp’s have suggested, I sent a message explaining that our lives were on separate paths and I couldn’t give her the attention she needed etc etc so I was going my own way. She messaged back going ballistic, as predicted, and initially I felt like I was a dreadful person but a few days later, the relief! I’d blocked her from further communication and I was FREE! I can’t tell you how good it felt, even now almost 4 years later, my ball and chain are off and I thank myself when I remember, good luck, short term pain long term gain.

PrettyPurse · 04/12/2019 22:15

Completely missing the point.... but why did she have a baby shower when her child was 3yrs old Confused

SittingAround1 · 04/12/2019 22:23

Could you slowly phase out the friendship?

Perhaps send her a message something along the lines of ' dear friend, things are very hectic for me at the moment with eldest child, work and college so I'm not available to talk. I hope you have a good Christmas, maybe we can catch up in the new year'

SheOfManyNames · 04/12/2019 22:28

If you don't live close, I would change my number and disengage.
It doesn't sound like you are getting anything positive from the relationship. It's up to you if you let her know why or not.

Would you block the family too? I know she regularly checks what other people are doing on their social media through her mum and siblings accounts, she would 100% make them go through my social media to see what I was doing Not block. I would put them on a restricted list and choose what they see carefully. Assuming of curse, you. are friendly with them. If you don't even interact, remove them as friends.

Kitty2020 · 04/12/2019 22:33

Why should the OP expend her v limited and finite emotional resources to prioritise the feelings of this vile abusive woman over and above her own personal exhaustion and urgent issues with her own child’s emotional health. No it’s not nice to ghost - but it’s not nice to hound or harass the OP or behave in such a disgusting way around toddlers.

As PP just said - she will just go ballistic when you send that text - be really clear if you want to take the punch that is coming - or if you need to conserve your energies for yourself/DC.

Maltesefalcon · 04/12/2019 22:42

I think it's kinder to send a short, firm message and then block than just totally disappearing. Sounds awful and very hard work OP, good luck

Cornishqween · 04/12/2019 22:42

I'm going down the route you lovely people have mentioned.... that I'm really busy with work and struggling to cope with my eldest at the moment and will see how things are in the new year. Will block all on social media as I don't talk to the family (only on events through there) and they all live far from me.

She is pregnant at the moment hence the baby shower, so I don't want to cause her unnecessary stress , however she is causing me stress on a daily basis so I'm not going to carry on like it.

I'm worried for her little one and the one on the way if I'm honest , I don't think she is violent physically but she is verbally abusive to a young child almost every daySad I hope she'll calm down once baby is here and her hormones have settled.

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Ariela · 04/12/2019 23:41

I'd also cite 'trying to fit in some horrendous assignments with deadlines for college' and 'I'm having to cut down the time I spend on the phone/Social media with everyone, so don't get worried if you don't see me about'

However I probably would send her and family a Christmas Card of the online Jacqui Lawson variety, just so as she cannot totally bitch about me.

Preciosaundostres · 04/12/2019 23:54

I have the same issue i completely understand where you are coming from with the not wanting to hurt her but really what ive learned you need to protect you , your boundaries , your needs and wants and more so your health. The constant phone calls is loneliness i get this every day too and every night without fail every tea time i ignore it you do the same answer when its suitable to you ignore the mobile too sometimes you just have to be cruel to be kind and again like me you have missed plenty of opportunities to get rid of her & she kept creeping back in to your life just fade her out like a candle in a light breeze you have to as it will never end she will soon get the hint and dont feel bad this is the point where you really have to walk away now theirs nothing more to be given to her and shes taken everything you can give think of you now good luck love x

CountYourRoosters · 05/12/2019 00:02

I've been in a similar situation, and when there was one more boyfriend drama, I just wrote back "I'm afraid I can't be there for you at the moment, I've a lot going on in my own life, sorry". Didn't get into a list of things I have going on, and didn't get into all the reasons why our one sided friendship had finally gotten too much for me. It seemed to do the trick anyway

IdblowJonSnow · 05/12/2019 00:09

I would message once and say you dont want to hurt her but that's shes not been a great friend to you (understatement!!) and that you no longer wish to be friends. Wish her well and then block.
Life is way too short and you need to learn to stand up for yourself!