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Need to end this 'friendship' but how without hurting her?

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Cornishqween · 04/12/2019 20:46

I'm hoping for some advice about a friendship I've had on and off since I was 4 years old.Apologies this is a long one but I dont want to drip feed.

We were best friends all through childhood, we went to the same primary school in the same class and remained close even though we went to separate secondary schools. Our friendship wasn't the best and to be honest she regularly dropped me for others and would leave me sat on my own after promising to come over for a sleepover etc. I have no idea why I wanted to remain friends with her but we talked every day and our parents ended up being close friends too.

When we got into our late teens and early twenties we saw less of each other, and I met someone and got engaged. I asked her to be my maid of honour, to which she agreed, but wouldn't make time for either of the dress fittings, didn't attend the hen do (despite it being a low key chilled event in our local pub - arranged by me) and then decided to move abroad just before my wedding day. I reluctantly asked my sister in law to take over since my best mate wasn't even sure if she could now make the wedding at all. I was gutted, and told her I'd assumed she'd be there for the day. She managed to get a flight home but said she had no option but to leave my wedding before the speeches. She wasn't in any of our photos, and of course didn't bother getting us a gift or a card.

After the wedding I decided to take a break from her as tbh I didnt feel like she was much of a mate. She ended up dating my husbands best mate a while after though and sort of shoehorned her way back into our lives. While she was with my husbands mate we saw loads of her, mainly because he would come over to ours loads and she tagged along, and soon we were like our old selves, it was an easy friendship basically.

I found out not long after that I was pregnant, and when our eldest was born we asked her and her boyfriend to be godparents (given that they were our oldest friends). He was always amazing with our little one, but she wasn't bothered. I kind of understood it as she was at a different stage in her life.After a while their relationship broke down and she took it quite badly. I tried to support her the best I could but with a young baby it was hard to be as available as she wanted. She didn't understand that I'd want to nap if I'd been up all night, and that my little one would come first.

About a month after the breakdown of her relationship she rushed into another with a guy who was related to her friend. They decided to try for a baby almost immediately (to get her own back on the bloke she'd broken up with) despite me trying to reason with her and make her see sense. She didn't get pregnant straight away thankfully but kept trying and trying despite the fact they weren't living together and she was in and out of jobs every 6 months.I feel like she barely knew him.

She eventually did fall pregnant but had an early miscarriage and I think her world just sort of fell apart. She couldn't function and was obsessed with trying again and again for another baby. She hated her friends who were pregnant after the miscarriage, and said they were rubbing it in her face. I too fell with my second baby and almost felt guilty to share this with her. She barely spoke to me throughout the pregnancy and didn't meet my baby until he was 8 months old.

She did manage to conceive again, and thankfully her little one was born safely but she'd treated most of her other friends so badly that I was the only one she could really talk to or confide in. She moved away from the area completely, with no job and little money. I shared my concern that she would be too far away for most to visit with ease (over an hours drive). She was adamant that moving away would be the change she needed and that she wouldn't be isolated.

Fast forward a few more months and our friendship became a way for her to vent, and every conversation we had was about how awful her other friends and family are " nobody visits me, I'm alone, I have no money, I hate my life etc" I felt sorry for her but also had problems of my own. She would never ask how me or my kids were doing, how our lives were going, never wanted to go for coffee (just wanted to sit and have me listen to hour long conversations about her problems) and the worry I had for her started to wane.

This has carried on now for several years, with this friend sort of using me like a therapist. She calls me usually 3 times a day, starting at 7am usually, and if I don't answer she calls and calls and calls until I pick up. If I ignore her she starts sending text messages asking why I'm not picking up. When we talk she rattles off her problems, usually with her child screaming in the background - to which she responds "f*cking shut up" or similar :( and if I try to interject with advice or a way to help she shuts every possible option down. She threw herself a baby shower recently and caused a huge argument in the middle of the shower with her family, I mean screaming swear words at them in front of a room full of people, including her 3 yr old ds and 8mo dn and the very few friends she has left. No one knew where to look or what to say. I actually picked up her child and led him out of the room and away from the screaming.

She is now hounding me hourly and I just cant cope with it. My husband is losing patience and wants me to block her completely. The only reason I haven't is because I've known her my whole life. I flinch every time she calls my phone. She is constantly hounding me on social media too.

I don't know how to get a back bone and just stop this nonsense. I've never been able to handle conflict and know she is going to slate me to whoever will listen and probably her family (who at times have been like a second family to me)

Just am lost and could do with some advice really

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Chocmallows · 08/12/2019 22:09

"I just don't know what to say without being brutally honest"...do it, be honest, you know she is going to be nasty when the truth is out. I'd get on and do it, as quite honestly what have you got to lose?

Bluddyhateful · 08/12/2019 23:29

She is never going to understand your point of view, and will be angry and upset with you to begin with. So say whatever you need to say to feel you have been honest and clear. And then go no contact

AlwaysCheddar · 09/12/2019 05:58

You don’t need to respond to the message. Ignore her now!!

PhilCornwall1 · 09/12/2019 07:10

She isn't family, she's doing your head in, your husbands head in. Just simply block, move on and let her sort herself out.

dancingbadger · 09/12/2019 16:19

She sounds classic narcissist. Nothing good will ever come from this friendship it will always be on her terms and she will resent your successes and happiness. Sorry to say she might well play dirty if she thinks your trying to move on without her. I had a 'friend' like this too, she was absolutely vile when I called quits on our friendship. But I'm still pleased not to have her in my life, in fact the way she reacted was all the confirmation I needed that I'd made the right decision.

Interestedwoman · 09/12/2019 16:27

I have mental health problems myself, and it's clear to me your friend has psychological/mental health problems. I can be a bit like this when I'm not 100%. Have you encouraged her to see her GP and/or a therapist? If she has medication and other help to get herself together, I'm sure the constant venting will be reduced.

richtea12 · 09/12/2019 16:53

She sounds like a nasty bully and you're probably scared of her understandably. Heartbreaking for her kids. If you can be brave and tell her I would do so before blocking her.

Cornishqween · 09/12/2019 18:33

Sorry for late reply, didn't realise the thread was still getting responses. I didn't get any contact from her until yesterday, then the texts and calls started. All day yesterday and again from about 7am this morning Angrymultiple calls, messages and tags in social media competitions.

I'm blocking tonight, don't care how she feels anymore, as she clearly doesn't care enough to give me space.

This is not a friendship I want anymore .

To the pp who mentioned mental heath issues, she and I both suffer with anxiety, but mine is mostly under control. I don't handle stress well so need to keep my stress levels down or the anxiety rears it's ugly head. She has been to the doctors and been offered cbt but only turned up to 2 sessions then said it wasn't working. They gave her medication but she didn't want to keep taking it (not sure why). Her mental health issues are quite bad at present, but she does have a fantastic supportive husband and family (friends not so much anymore)

Thanks for all your advice, I wish her well obviously but can't be at her beck and call anymore Sad

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Drum2018 · 09/12/2019 18:43

Shame she couldn't respect your boundaries. You are right to block her now. You cannot help her MH issues when she won't even try to help herself. And you need to put your MH first.

billy1966 · 09/12/2019 19:09

OP, this type of hounding and harrassment would cause stress and anxiety in those that don't suffer from it.

Do not underestimate how much toxicity she adds to your life.

When women have families, their lives are inevitably busy. They need friends for laughter, empathy and kindness.

Not to hound them and cause them huge stress.

Blocking her permanently and not looking back is best for you and your family.

💐

BarbedBloom · 09/12/2019 19:17

I was about to say she won't understand. I had a friend like this, one sided and constant calls and texts all day and night. I tried the slow phase out, tried being direct about needing space but space for her was 7 calls a day instead of 10. She just didn't see things in the same way I did and was just generally full on. She had alienated everyone around her by the time I finally broke. I had to block her in the end as she simply didn't want to hear anything I had to say or modify her support system to allow me time to spend with my partner of the time. I think you have done the right thing

Cornishqween · 09/12/2019 19:49

@billy1966 totally agree, I didn't realise how much it was impacting me until recently. We got into a pattern of her calling constantly, me either answering straight away or ignoring and feeling guilty so responding within an hour. I was going to bed stressed, waking up anxious and taking in all of her fears/worries/anger/resentment. I just can't cope anymore and I can feel my stress levels dropping almost instantly from cutting her out.

I still feel like a shit friend, but I feel like I'm helping myself for a change x

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Cornishqween · 09/12/2019 19:51

@BarbedBloom that must have been draining. I got so fed up of her calling with a long list of issues (most solveable by her) and her shutting down every solution or suggestion because she enjoys being a victim. I feel sorry for her and her family actually but mostly I worry for her kids Sad

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Wondersense · 09/12/2019 19:51

You know what the problem is (except the fact you are scared to have confrontations)? She hasn't made you angry enough yet. She's stressed you out, made you feel sad, made you feel drained, embarrassed, harassed.....but not really angry. So angry that you would stop her mid-sentence and tell her to shut the hell up.

This has carried on now for several years, with this friend sort of using me like a therapist. She calls me usually 3 times a day, starting at 7am usually, and if I don't answer she calls and calls and calls until I pick up. If I ignore her she starts sending text messages asking why I'm not picking up. When we talk she rattles off her problems, usually with her child screaming in the background - to which she responds "fcking shut up" or similarand if I try to interject with advice or a way to help she shuts every possible option down.*

She sounds like a harasser and has no respect for you or boundaries. Who the hell calls and calls until people pick up unless it's an emergency??? Who calls like that at 7am??? Give yourself a good Christmas this year and get her out of your life. Also, look up 'agreeablness' as a personality trait. You are probably very high on that scale and need to fight your own corner more often. You can do it!!!!!

Wondersense · 09/12/2019 19:56

Also, I'm quite disturbed by the fact that you feel like a shit friend despite all of this. There is something really wrong with that. In fact, you are not her friend in her situation. You are a doormat to her by the sounds of it. Take charge and tell her to get out of your life.

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