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DP gone awol again, he's cheating isn't he? Please help me gain clarify

542 replies

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 15:53

I need some advice because I feel very confused. I feel as though he is deliberately trying to play mind games.

My partner of several years with whom I have children with has been behaving strangely for the past 6-8 weeks. I had a thread here in relationships, you might recognise some details.

Three times in the space of a fortnight he said he was leaving me and then changed his mind saying he was just confused. He has been more than 6 hours late home on several occasions, explaining it away as overtime.

After the second time I demanded to know what the hell was going on, suspecting there was an OW involved but still somewhat in denial and confused.

He said he wanted to talk to me properly and make it work, during the "talk" he told me that many years before we met an ex had contacted him and disclosed that she had given birth to a baby, stillborn. He told me that he had no idea about the pregnancy and she had hidden it from him, contacting him two years after they broke up to tell him - long after she'd had the baby. He said this ex took him to an unmarked grave and said that's where the baby was buried, and that the baby wasn't named.

Obviously I was devastated for him, but confused why that would leave him doubting our relationship.

However, some things weren't adding up. It's relevant to include that (he said) the ex was a habitual liar and took drugs alot and was dishonest, his words.

The relationship ended, to his knowledge she wasn't pregnant, then she contacts him years later out of the blue to disclose the stillbirth and wanted to meet him to take him to an unmarked grave.

The cynic in me had doubts, as far as the ex was concerned. I will admit there was an air of disbelief. Why would she hide the pregnancy and stillbirth then contact him later on down the line? I questioned whether it was a lie, to be honest.

Me being the soft touch I am, believing that the suppressed grief had surfaced and that he was struggling with his mental health, I urged him to speak to a GP. He assured me he didn't need to and he would be ok. He seemed fine, no obvious signs of mental health problems.

A few weeks pass and we are getting on just fine, then today he's 6+ hours late from work again. He works nights and was supposed to be home at 10am this morning.

I'm texting him all day, worried. Eventually he responds at 3pm saying "for your information I made an appointment to speak to a doctor about feeling depressed, like you advised. I'm taking your advice"

I ask why he didn't tell me, and where has he been all day. He replies avoiding the question but says he has been on his own "just thinking about everything" us, money, the kids.

He's still not home and I'm ashamed to say I'm on the verge of telling him to post his keys and stay away. I can't do this anymore.

He has lied before, I don't trust him. It feels like the stillborn story was given to explain away his strange behaviour before, out of the blue, and the doctors story today is an excuse for being awol again.

His doctor doesn't do same day appointments. He wouldn't even go to the dentist after suffering from terrible toothache for months so I really don't believe it.

He's cheating isn't he? Using mental health and other things to make me second guess myself.

OP posts:
Lumpybumps1 · 21/11/2019 19:26

I've checked my emails and i don't get friends request notifications and I don't have them set up to come to my phone either. I'm really kicking myself now, it can't be coincidental I don't think

Lumpybumps1 · 21/11/2019 19:28

He's 34, I changed his age in thread because I didn't want anybody who knows us to recognise any details but I'm beyond caring now.

Chunkers · 21/11/2019 19:33

Activity Log?

Lumpybumps1 · 21/11/2019 19:42

Checked that too, it looks like there's no way of getting it back. I can only hope that if my gut feeling is right then they'll try to get in touch again.

Very odd how they've completely vanished from the mutual friends list though, unless they've changed the profile picture. Gah I wish I made a note of the name

tomatosoup4 · 21/11/2019 19:43

@Chunkers I was just about to say activity log Grin
I've just had a peak on mine and it shows friend requests.

Lumpybumps1 · 21/11/2019 19:46

Activity log shows all my unanswered friends requests that I haven't responded to yet but not ones I have deleted unfortunately

letsdolunch321 · 21/11/2019 19:46

Sounds like the woman who friended you up was going to drop him in the shit had you accepted her request.

Annoying you didn't accept but today is the beginning of a new chapter for you & dcs.

Onwards and upwards, take it all one day at a time 💐

tomatosoup4 · 21/11/2019 19:47

Op I'm so sorry your going through this. I've been on the receiving end of a cowardly scumbag. Told me he was going to the shop and did I want anything back when I was 7 months pregnant with his 3rd child. He didn't go to the shop he drove 60 miles to his bit on the side and got his brother to tell me he wasn't coming back and he was getting married! I know it's hard now but soon enough you'll realise your so much better off without the piece of shit.

Lumpybumps1 · 21/11/2019 19:52

That's my feeling, letsdo. He panicked when I asked him about the random request because he knew he was about to be exposed so the minute my backs turned and I've gone to bed he legs it and admits to cheating so it looks like he's coming clean.

Tomato I'm so sorry that happened to you, yes what an absolute coward he is. These men really are spineless. How did things end up for you? Do you co-parent or has he never been seen since? Appalling behaviour I wouldn't wish it on anybody

kickedwhenimdown · 21/11/2019 19:56

Have you checked your FB messages including those of people you’re not friends with (they don’t always show up). That may be why she messaged you, because you didn’t see her message?

Lumpybumps1 · 21/11/2019 19:56

I've told him I want his share of the months rent and the money back he has been leeching from me all month, zero response.

I added that if he didn't do the right thing in that regard then I would come and make a show of it at his work place, I'm half serious about that.

I don't want to lose the moral high ground but he shouldn't be able to get away with doing this and then shirking financial responsibility on top

Lumpybumps1 · 21/11/2019 19:57

Yes kicked I have, multiple times. I was hoping she had messaged and it was filtered to my message requests but nothing

Lumpybumps1 · 21/11/2019 20:00

Thank you all again for talking to me, Its helping. I don't feel quite so lost and alone.

letsdolunch321 · 21/11/2019 20:03

Lumpy, don't be half serious about going to his work and making a show - DO IT, let him see you are not a pushover, you owe him nothing.

He calls himself a man, with his disgusting attitude, locking you in the bedroom he should be seriously disgusted with his actions.

tomatosoup4 · 21/11/2019 20:04

@Lumpybumps1 it was dreadful I had to move back to my parents with two toddlers and a baby almost due, I had to start from the very beginning because I had no house, furniture car nothing he left me penniless. He saw the baby when it was she was born but was a crap father and only saw them when it suited him. Then we didn't hear from him for 7 years, he's never paid a penny in Maintenance and never asked how they were. But do you know what I struggled (god did I struggle) and we didn't have a lot but my children have always known that it was me who brought them up and who was there for them. The are 17,16,15 now and I'm so proud of the kids they are today, they're kind,funny and caring and it's because of me they've turned out that way.

I hope your ex is a better parent than mine ever was. Honestly it makes you question how did you ever fall in love and have kids with someone that turned out to be a wrong'un doesn't it Confused like you never really knew them after all.

Rose87777 · 21/11/2019 20:04

What an absolute low life. Please hold your head high and take the moral high ground. People like him will never be happy, his next relationship is highly likely to fail because he clearly has no morals.

MaeveDidIt · 21/11/2019 20:05

Honestly what sort of women in their right mind would want to go off with a man who has left his DCs and a small baby!
They really do deserve each other and she's as much of a scumbag as he is.

You on the other hand are not and you will be ok you really will x

Sassypants82 · 21/11/2019 20:09

Out & out scumbag. Wishing you all the best Lumpy.

Lumpybumps1 · 21/11/2019 20:15

Oh I really am tempted to go down there, truly.

He's supposed to be working tonight but that's only what he said the other day (he's just had two nights off) but I don't know what to believe anymore with him.

Here's the thing.

His contract is for three nights a week but he has been doing 5 on average, claiming to have had the option to do extra nights if he wanted to - which he claimed to have opted in for as Xmas is coming up. He's probably been going to see the OW on the "extra two" nights whilst claiming to be at work.

I don't want to go all the way down there and him not be there iyswim?

Tomato, what a disgusting man he is. Im so sorry you had to struggle, but you sound bloody fabulous in how you've made it work for you and your DC. Did he and the OW stay together? I can't understand how some women will happily get involved with somebody who has a family and babies, even if they claim the relationship is in trouble, that's still a no go zone.

He wanted to have sex with me yesterday morning whilst I was sat panicking about an upcoming scan, he has no empathy at all. Suffice to say I rejected his advances and I'm glad that I did. I have allowed him to get away with far too much on the basis of his aspergers, making excuses for his shoddy communication and total lack of respect.

I'm so thankful that every time we were intimate we used protection at my insistence because I guarantee he won't have been using it elsewhere, he hates it.

He clearly has no regard for his own or anybody else's sexual health. Gross person

Lumpybumps1 · 21/11/2019 20:18

I've seen this sort of behaviour in him before, hiding from his phone when he has upset somebody (previously his mother)

If he's expecting angry correspondence he will absolutely avoid reading texts or checking for calls. The phone stays on silent and stays in his pocket, he uses it if he needs to contact somebody but won't read his unread messages.

He hasn't been active on WhatsApp since 1pm yesterday.

Lumpybumps1 · 21/11/2019 20:24

I actually wondered whether he had blocked me so I called and it rang, so he hasn't done that yet.

Lumpybumps1 · 21/11/2019 20:33

I will admit to having sent him some fairly nasty texts calling him every name under the sun so my guess is that he's going to avoid speaking to me for as long as possible. I wouldn't be at all surprised if i don't hear from him for weeks or months.

It'll be a case of me going to his work place if I want the money or to discuss anything but I really don't know when he'll be there. His days change weekly.

Lumpybumps1 · 21/11/2019 20:35

Looking at our youngest laid sleeping and my heart is broken. She isn't even crawling yet and he is out he door. I struggle to believe he gives a toss about any of the children.

carly2803 · 21/11/2019 21:00

oh OP i have read from start to finish. YOU are strong,HE is a twat.

You have this, you WILL get through this. If he dosent cough up money now then absolutely go to his work.
CSA, I would do that asap if you can as you are not married(?).

I hate him for what he has done to you and those children. He is scum. But you will be ok and have a fantastic life.

Lumpybumps1 · 21/11/2019 21:06

I'm going to get on to CSA tomorrow for sure. Will they need an address for him? Because I don't know where he's gone to stay