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DP gone awol again, he's cheating isn't he? Please help me gain clarify

542 replies

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 15:53

I need some advice because I feel very confused. I feel as though he is deliberately trying to play mind games.

My partner of several years with whom I have children with has been behaving strangely for the past 6-8 weeks. I had a thread here in relationships, you might recognise some details.

Three times in the space of a fortnight he said he was leaving me and then changed his mind saying he was just confused. He has been more than 6 hours late home on several occasions, explaining it away as overtime.

After the second time I demanded to know what the hell was going on, suspecting there was an OW involved but still somewhat in denial and confused.

He said he wanted to talk to me properly and make it work, during the "talk" he told me that many years before we met an ex had contacted him and disclosed that she had given birth to a baby, stillborn. He told me that he had no idea about the pregnancy and she had hidden it from him, contacting him two years after they broke up to tell him - long after she'd had the baby. He said this ex took him to an unmarked grave and said that's where the baby was buried, and that the baby wasn't named.

Obviously I was devastated for him, but confused why that would leave him doubting our relationship.

However, some things weren't adding up. It's relevant to include that (he said) the ex was a habitual liar and took drugs alot and was dishonest, his words.

The relationship ended, to his knowledge she wasn't pregnant, then she contacts him years later out of the blue to disclose the stillbirth and wanted to meet him to take him to an unmarked grave.

The cynic in me had doubts, as far as the ex was concerned. I will admit there was an air of disbelief. Why would she hide the pregnancy and stillbirth then contact him later on down the line? I questioned whether it was a lie, to be honest.

Me being the soft touch I am, believing that the suppressed grief had surfaced and that he was struggling with his mental health, I urged him to speak to a GP. He assured me he didn't need to and he would be ok. He seemed fine, no obvious signs of mental health problems.

A few weeks pass and we are getting on just fine, then today he's 6+ hours late from work again. He works nights and was supposed to be home at 10am this morning.

I'm texting him all day, worried. Eventually he responds at 3pm saying "for your information I made an appointment to speak to a doctor about feeling depressed, like you advised. I'm taking your advice"

I ask why he didn't tell me, and where has he been all day. He replies avoiding the question but says he has been on his own "just thinking about everything" us, money, the kids.

He's still not home and I'm ashamed to say I'm on the verge of telling him to post his keys and stay away. I can't do this anymore.

He has lied before, I don't trust him. It feels like the stillborn story was given to explain away his strange behaviour before, out of the blue, and the doctors story today is an excuse for being awol again.

His doctor doesn't do same day appointments. He wouldn't even go to the dentist after suffering from terrible toothache for months so I really don't believe it.

He's cheating isn't he? Using mental health and other things to make me second guess myself.

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AFairlyHardAvocado · 21/11/2019 21:09

Fuck you poor love.

Please don't feel alone - I know it's not the same as someone giving you a cuddle in person but we are all here for you!

I've been so low before on here and even at crazy o'clock some lovely aussie mumsnetters were really kind to me.

I know this doesn't help at the moment but when they are this much of an utter cunt, especially being as pathetic and cowardly as he is now it's over, it does help you draw a line under it.

Because there's no going back from this and that's GOOD because you deserve better.

His future isn't lunches and laughs with someone else, it's that for a while until his real personality comes through and he does exactly the same to other people. But you won't have to worry about it because you'll be free of him. Free of wanting to check if he's lying, of wondering why he's not where he is, of feeling you aren't enough - he caused those things and now he's gone. Good riddance!!

You sound lovely and switched on and capable - you deserve to be happy.

Sending you loads of love x

Lumpybumps1 · 21/11/2019 21:36

Thank you so much, you are absolutely right of course. I'm free of living in suspicion and doubt and I should be glad of that.

I hope I can get to that mindset soon, because I'll be honest at the minute I'm just frightened.

I'm frightened of doing it all on my own and worried how I'll cope without his support if I don't get the all clear from my scan. The alternative doesn't bare thinking about and now he's gone, if anything happens to me the children will have nobody Sad

I really need to stop thinking like that. I fucking hate my brain at the minute.

AFairlyHardAvocado · 21/11/2019 21:47

You poor love, he really is an absolute arsewipe.

Please do use MN as a safe place to vent - when people genuinely need support (practical or emotional) it can be such a lifeline.

Especially the health and legal issues boards as there are so many professionals on here to provide practical and sensible advice when trying to get answers in real life feels like an endless spiral of waiting for callbacks and updates.

I'm gonna check in tomorrow and see how you're doing. One day you'll feel like him leaving was the best thing that's ever happened to you. It takes time of course - but remember it will happen! Thanks

Lumpybumps1 · 21/11/2019 23:29

Thank you for the kindness and handholds, I hope tomorrow is a better day.

I'm mentally and physically exhausted so I need to try to sleep, the problem is I'm reluctant because I know when I wake up in the morning I'll have that brief minute or so when wake up and have to remember he's gone.

I'm wondering if I'll wake up to any acknowledgement of my messages, the likelihood is that I won't. I've been telling myself that he's purposely not reading my messages because he doesn't want to argue so he's giving it some time before he opens the text thread.

In reality he's probably read every one and just can't be bothered because he doesn't want to "betray" the OW whilst she's shiny and new.

Goodnight all, thank you again

SandyY2K · 21/11/2019 23:49

So he has no qualms walking out on his children just like that. His own flesh and blood and he's just walked off.

Poor kids....but they have you.

What's his relationship like with his family?Are they close?

What would they think of his behaviour? The cheating is one thing...but to walk out on his kids like this is dreadful.

No matter how well the DC turn out as they grow, these issues will affect most in this situation.

I know someone who had an uninvolved father and when he passed away, she struggled to feel anything for him, yet felt guilty that she had no feelings.

Look after yourself and your DC. Don't forget to eat and keep hydrated.

The gig was up with the friend request and he jumped before he was pushed.

Take care

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 00:17

He barely talks to the majority of his family, they're not close at all.

He his father semi regularly, usually when he has messed up in some way and wants to be told "there there" but he's lucky if he hears from his mother once every 6 months (they're divorced and she has moved away)

Coincidentally, his mother cheated on his father so then the father left the mother for the mothers cousin. It's no surprise he has piss poor family values really. He never tried to break the pattern, but then why would he when it's much more fun to chin off your children and go galavanting with another (probably) much younger woman.

I'm nine years his junior by the way, mid twenties, though I've got at least ten years on him as far as being an adult goes.

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 00:23

So yes no qualms on walking out on his children, that's the norm for him. I don't understand how he could ever think it's acceptable but im sure him rewriting history has helped ease his conscience.

It's abhorrent how he feels he even has the right to go off and leave me with the children, I mean when did we ever have a discussion about custody? He hasn't considered the needs of anybody barring himself.

I have a strong feeling he has no intention to co-parent or continue seeing the children for quite some time, if ever.

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 00:25

I've ended up putting alot of outing details on here whereas I was trying to be vague to begin with, concerned about being recognised by those familiar with us IRL.

I'm not so bothered now, I won't be covering for him when people get wind of what he's done. He deserves to be known as what he is, a horrible little man who abandons his children.

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 01:23

No chance of sleep anytime soon, the floodgates have opened again. All I want is for him to text me and assure me he's going to stick by the children and do right by them, I've practically begged him to tell me he's not abandoning them. Nothing :'(

Ruby666 · 22/11/2019 02:08

Lumpy I’ve just been reading what you have been going through and I’m so sorry, he’s clearly a bloody man child who can’t face responsibility in any way shape or form. I know it doesn’t feel like it at the moment but you deserve much better and so do your children, if he could practically lock you in your bedroom with total disregard for your other child then he clearly doesn’t think. Concentrate on getting to housing benefit ect ect and maybe see about getting the locks changed xx

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 03:31

Thank you Ruby, you are right

I wish I could see it that way, instead I'm in total shock and disbelief. I've laid trying so hard to sleep, for hours, and I just can't stop crying. I feel sick. I text again and told him he needs to look after the children tomorrow because he's got me in such a bloody state I can't function on no sleep and he just turned his phone off.

Heartless, completely heartless.

3.30 now Sad

braw · 22/11/2019 04:54

I've just read all of this while I've been up feeding the baby OP. I hope your health scare doesn't amount to anything. You sound like a really amazing mother. Take care of yourself as best you can. Thanks

LadyBrienne · 22/11/2019 05:54

Been following you and wanted to say, that although it doesn't seem so now, there will be a time in the future when you look back and see this as the pivotal time in your life where you turned towards something more positive and left the negative (and I do mean negative space of an excuse for a human being) behind .... it hurts now and that's because you are a kind decent loving person who trusted and was trustworthy .... it will get better ... it will take time ... but you are worthy of the journey

Foldinglaundryisnotforme · 22/11/2019 06:25

@Lumpybumps1 go to the mutual friend of the lady who sent you the requests page... Have a scroll through her friends list and you may come across the lady and get some answers. If the friend list is private I've had luck in the past by looking at their likes on profile pics etc and the name popping up there. Some people may feel it's unhelpful to encourage snooping but she sent you a request for a reason, if answers help you get angry enough to pick yourself up and help you move on then it's justified. Hope you are as okay as can be expected Flowers

letsdolunch321 · 22/11/2019 07:20

Hi Lumpy, don't cover up to others what he has done, all this is HIS doing. If you feel upset when you go to your appointments tell the staff what is happening in your life. It helped me to talk.

WizardOfAus · 22/11/2019 08:34

@Lumpybumps1 sending you all the love and support in the world. You don’t know it yet, but you’re a champion. X

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 10:33

Hi all,

I managed about two hours sleep in total, better than nothing though. He switched his phone back on around 7, read my messages and blanked them.

I feel physically sick. I need to channel my inner "fuck you" and turn this panic into anger as that is more productive

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 10:36

He'll have convinced himself his position is justified now after I called him this and that yesterday, god forbid I react to having my world turned upside down. This too shall pass right.

category12 · 22/11/2019 10:40

Just one foot in front of the other, OP. Lots of hot sweet drinks, eat if you can, talk to friends.

Ruby666 · 22/11/2019 10:41

I completely understand I bet it feels like it’s all a horrible dream, but you WILL get through this, he’s the one who’s going to loose out in the long run of having a loving family, not you as you sound like a fab mum.
Do you have any close friends or any family that live local who could support you/watch the kids?

AspiringAmazon · 22/11/2019 10:52

What an absolute shitshow of a situation your sorry excuse for a partner has dropped you in, OP.
Longtime lurker on Mumsnet here, first time poster. I felt compelled to write you to let you know that you sound like an amazing woman and an awesome mother. It doesn’t seem like it now but you and your children will get through this and be all the stronger for it. Sending you a massive handhold Flowers

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 11:00

Thank you for the continued support ladies

I've just checked my bank and he's sent me £200, which I think is the child maintenance amount per month for two children isn't it? He's probably done his research

He can log in to send money but won't respond. I don't know why he's being so bloody cruel.

The children having a present father is more valuable than £200 bloody quid.

Which by the way is a drop in the ocean compared to everything I've spent on that bum in recent months, it doesn't even break even.

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 11:02

No contribution to the rent, just 200 which I'm presuming is for the children.

The amount of nights he has worked this past pay cycle he will have taken home at least 2k.

What a nerve

category12 · 22/11/2019 11:03

Depends what he earns. There's a child support calculator here: www.gov.uk/calculate-child-maintenance

bluehairandheartbroken · 22/11/2019 11:11

I've not commented yet but been following your thread and I just want to say I am so, so sorry for what you are going through.

My situation isn't the same as yours however one thing I will say is - despite how shit you are feeling right now - how amazing is that feeling of relief that your gut feeling was right, and you weren't going mad?

He is a disgusting excuse for a human being, he made you doubt your own gut feeling. Complete and utter gaslighting. And yet it's so hard isn't it - because how can this person that's done this to you be the same person that you have loved and trusted for so long?

Right now you are in shock and you're devastated. Please be kind to yourself, look after yourself and do try and get in touch with a friend or someone who can pop round and give you some support. In the meantime, the shock will fade and you will find your proper anger. This will come in useful! I also agree with other posters, don't just be half serious about turning up at work - do it! Don't even worry about other people knowing. It's him that has done this, not you. Do keep posting here for support, thinking of you xx