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DP gone awol again, he's cheating isn't he? Please help me gain clarify

542 replies

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 15:53

I need some advice because I feel very confused. I feel as though he is deliberately trying to play mind games.

My partner of several years with whom I have children with has been behaving strangely for the past 6-8 weeks. I had a thread here in relationships, you might recognise some details.

Three times in the space of a fortnight he said he was leaving me and then changed his mind saying he was just confused. He has been more than 6 hours late home on several occasions, explaining it away as overtime.

After the second time I demanded to know what the hell was going on, suspecting there was an OW involved but still somewhat in denial and confused.

He said he wanted to talk to me properly and make it work, during the "talk" he told me that many years before we met an ex had contacted him and disclosed that she had given birth to a baby, stillborn. He told me that he had no idea about the pregnancy and she had hidden it from him, contacting him two years after they broke up to tell him - long after she'd had the baby. He said this ex took him to an unmarked grave and said that's where the baby was buried, and that the baby wasn't named.

Obviously I was devastated for him, but confused why that would leave him doubting our relationship.

However, some things weren't adding up. It's relevant to include that (he said) the ex was a habitual liar and took drugs alot and was dishonest, his words.

The relationship ended, to his knowledge she wasn't pregnant, then she contacts him years later out of the blue to disclose the stillbirth and wanted to meet him to take him to an unmarked grave.

The cynic in me had doubts, as far as the ex was concerned. I will admit there was an air of disbelief. Why would she hide the pregnancy and stillbirth then contact him later on down the line? I questioned whether it was a lie, to be honest.

Me being the soft touch I am, believing that the suppressed grief had surfaced and that he was struggling with his mental health, I urged him to speak to a GP. He assured me he didn't need to and he would be ok. He seemed fine, no obvious signs of mental health problems.

A few weeks pass and we are getting on just fine, then today he's 6+ hours late from work again. He works nights and was supposed to be home at 10am this morning.

I'm texting him all day, worried. Eventually he responds at 3pm saying "for your information I made an appointment to speak to a doctor about feeling depressed, like you advised. I'm taking your advice"

I ask why he didn't tell me, and where has he been all day. He replies avoiding the question but says he has been on his own "just thinking about everything" us, money, the kids.

He's still not home and I'm ashamed to say I'm on the verge of telling him to post his keys and stay away. I can't do this anymore.

He has lied before, I don't trust him. It feels like the stillborn story was given to explain away his strange behaviour before, out of the blue, and the doctors story today is an excuse for being awol again.

His doctor doesn't do same day appointments. He wouldn't even go to the dentist after suffering from terrible toothache for months so I really don't believe it.

He's cheating isn't he? Using mental health and other things to make me second guess myself.

OP posts:
DiaryofWimpyMumm · 21/11/2019 14:23

I'm sorry you must be reeling with the shock of it. Look after yourself.

Lumpybumps1 · 21/11/2019 14:31

I really am. I want to know who she is but it's irrelevant isn't it. I wonder if she knows about me and the children and whether he's gone to his dad's or he's holed up with her.

I bet she knows about our family and has issued an ultimatum, to which he's chosen her. He was humming and ahhing not so long ago whilst swearing there was nobody else.

I have text him back telling him what a nasty little coward he is but no reply of course, he will be hiding from his phone now he's "told the truth" and left.

Lumpybumps1 · 21/11/2019 14:33

I've bagged up everything of his that was in sight and thrown it all in the storage cupboard. There is a skip outside at the minute (not mine) and I had to stop myself throwing it all in that because I may live to regret it if he decides not to play ball and give me some money at the end of the month.

Lumpybumps1 · 21/11/2019 14:39

The unfairness of it is unreal. He gets to swan off into the sunset to live a carefree life working and having fun with the other woman whilst I'm left in the lurch with the children.

No nappy changes, no tantrums, no putting others first and responsibilities for him. What a fucking bastard

Catmaiden · 21/11/2019 15:44

I recognise you and commented on some of your previous threads.
I'm glad you've thrown him out, but hadn't you done that a few weeks back, when you found out he was cheating with her, then?
So I'm confused, did you let him come back, after he'd taken all his stuff away?
If you did, please don't do it again!

Lumpybumps1 · 21/11/2019 17:22

Yep I let him back because he convinced me he wasn't cheating, muggins here believed him. I bought into the whole "mental health crisis" and he promised to make things right.

He didn't admit he was cheating until today, he was gaslighting me the whole time.

Until I woke up to those texts admitting what he's been doing, he's been telling me he hasn't.

I had no proof before despite it being pretty obvious, but i wanted to believe him.

LIZS · 21/11/2019 17:29

How old are your dc? Am shocked that he left locking you in a room while they were elsewhere. Does he have no care for their safety or wellbeing? Let alone yours. Note down the instances of his abuse as he does not sound fit to be around them unsupervised.

Lumpybumps1 · 21/11/2019 17:30

He won't be back now even if I asked him to, which I won't. The fact he has finally admitted it means he has made up his mind.

No acknowledgement via text, not a word since the "i have cheated and I'm leaving" ones he sent early hours of the morning.

I know I shouldn't have let him back before when he's been treating me badly but I had alot of blind hope that just maybe he hadn't done anything and really was having some kind of breakdown.

Obviously he's made a mug out of me.

Lumpybumps1 · 21/11/2019 17:45

Baby and young child age

Yes he knew when he left that the bedroom door couldn't be opened from the inside, so me and baby were effectively trapped in there and other DC in other room where he had been.

The door handle is broken on the inside (bedroom) so in order to get out, somebody needs to push from the other side. This is something he does every morning when he gets up, opens the door for me. The reason it gets pushed closed is because the older DC come in and disturb the baby who is a poor sleeper.

(We haven't been sharing a bedroom for some time, partly because of his snoring, mainly because of his behaviour)

Needless to say it's not ideal is it but he wasn't in the house it wouldn't have been closed shut in the first place. It's something that is done only when somebody else is here to open it.

I go to bed thinking everything was fine, wake up in the morning and he's gone leaving us stuck in the bedroom knowing full well I couldn't open the door and not one shit given about the fact he had left thus leaving us stuck in one room and other DC unsupervised.

Lumpybumps1 · 21/11/2019 17:58

I realise I look quite pathetic in all of this and a stronger person would have had him sling his hook sooner. Until today he was maintaining the "I'm not cheating, this is all about my mental health" and stupidly I still wanted to believe him.

If he had admitted what he has today, sooner, It wouldn't have carried on until now. He's had me doubting my gut instinct and lying through his teeth.

Lumpybumps1 · 21/11/2019 18:05

I've been having health problems for months months and have been quite reliant on his hands on support with the children, so whilst there was any chance he was telling the truth I didn't want to be without the support and desperately wanted to believe him Sad

Things are different now, he couldn't give a toss about any of us

MaeveDidIt · 21/11/2019 18:13

I am so sorry Lumpy 💐💐💐.
He really is the lowest of the low.
You will be ok in the end and hold onto that, but sadly it takes a lot time to heal.
Be prepared for the scumbag to come grovelling back.
Wishing you all the very best x

Lumpybumps1 · 21/11/2019 18:22

Thank you very much, please excuse my ramblings. I'm writing here so as not to be tempted to send him any further texts.

To add insult to injury he's due to be paid tonight or tomorrow so the timing isn't coincidental. I've been subsiding him all month until he got his wage, paying for all of the food and bills whilst letting him use my card for his travel to and from work.

As soon as he's due to get his money he's off like a shot and I bet he doesn't give me a penny for the children.

I'm going to contact child maintenance tomorrow but I don't hold much hope in that being sorted anytime soon.

MaeveDidIt · 21/11/2019 18:30

I'm speechless - one day you will realise you are well rid of the immoral scumbag.
You're too nice for this low-life.

GinAndBubbles · 21/11/2019 18:30

Hey Lumpy, I am so sorry to read this post, it is shit...

I just wanted to say you don't look like a mug from where I am sitting, you look like a wonderful, understanding and caring human being who has been taken advantage of.

None of this is your fault, none of it is fair - but you will get through this, and you will be happy. It is going to be a shitty few months whilst you adapt, but you will get there.

Good riddance to the dickhead, on to your next chapter, it will turn out to be a much happier one. xx

Catmaiden · 21/11/2019 18:51

I didn't mean to make you feel worse and I very sorry that I did. You've done really well to get him to leave.

Lumpybumps1 · 21/11/2019 18:51

I really appreciate the kind words so thank you, though I feel i don't deserve any. If only I had the self respect to do what many would have and nipped it in the bud much sooner.

I've just had a realisation.

Last night before I went to bed I received a friends request from an older lady on Facebook, the only mutual friend I had with her was somebody i and ExP used to work with (I worked at the same company as him, before he changed jobs recently - none of us work there now)

I said to him "do you know this woman insert name she's just added me on Facebook, mutual friends with jane from work" he replied somewhat sharply "no"

I deleted the friend request and thought no more of it until now, but it seems strange that he dissapears hours after that happens. Almost like he felt he was about to be rumbled and jumped before he was pushed

The woman is 50ish (a good 20 years older than him) so I don't think it's her he's seeing, but maybe she knows the woman? Wants to find out info?

Am I being paranoid or would any of you be wondering now..

Lumpybumps1 · 21/11/2019 19:05

I can't remember the woman's name so I went through the mutual friends friend list to look for the account as I remember what the profile picture was. That person is now nowhere to be found in the mutual friends page.

I'm kicking myself so hard for not accepting the request or messaging them querying the add. I'll never remember the name now Sad

Chunkers · 21/11/2019 19:12

If you go into notifications, you might see so-and-so sent you a friend request?

Sorry you are going through all this.

Lumpybumps1 · 21/11/2019 19:13

Is there any way of retrieving deleted friends requests? I'm really starting to think there's more to this one.

I haven't worked at that company for almost three years, he left there a few months ago (around the time the strange behaviour began)

He starts a new job, strange behaviour continues, then I get a random friends request from a woman i don't know, the only mutual friend being somebody we both used to work with at the old place of employment.

I ask him who it is and he denies all knowledge of knowing them then as soon as I've gone to bed he does a runner and sends texts admitting he has been cheating.

This man is a coward and would never have admitted that unless he thought somebody else was about to tell me, I'm sure of it.

Lumpybumps1 · 21/11/2019 19:13

Thanks I'll check! I did delete the request and wish I hadn't

MaeveDidIt · 21/11/2019 19:15

Curiosty killed the cat Lumpy.
We're all different and some people want to know every single detail, understandably, but in my view all it achieves is more hurt.
One day you will let the bastard go - unfortunately it takes time x

Lumpybumps1 · 21/11/2019 19:17

You're very right maeve Sad

I've checked notifications and it's nowhere to be seen, looks like I'll never know now

simplekindoflife · 21/11/2019 19:20

Do you get notifications in your email? Or phone notifications? You could possibly find it from there.

CoatTails · 21/11/2019 19:22

You said he was 40 next year so 50ish isn’t a huge age gap.