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DP gone awol again, he's cheating isn't he? Please help me gain clarify

542 replies

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 15:53

I need some advice because I feel very confused. I feel as though he is deliberately trying to play mind games.

My partner of several years with whom I have children with has been behaving strangely for the past 6-8 weeks. I had a thread here in relationships, you might recognise some details.

Three times in the space of a fortnight he said he was leaving me and then changed his mind saying he was just confused. He has been more than 6 hours late home on several occasions, explaining it away as overtime.

After the second time I demanded to know what the hell was going on, suspecting there was an OW involved but still somewhat in denial and confused.

He said he wanted to talk to me properly and make it work, during the "talk" he told me that many years before we met an ex had contacted him and disclosed that she had given birth to a baby, stillborn. He told me that he had no idea about the pregnancy and she had hidden it from him, contacting him two years after they broke up to tell him - long after she'd had the baby. He said this ex took him to an unmarked grave and said that's where the baby was buried, and that the baby wasn't named.

Obviously I was devastated for him, but confused why that would leave him doubting our relationship.

However, some things weren't adding up. It's relevant to include that (he said) the ex was a habitual liar and took drugs alot and was dishonest, his words.

The relationship ended, to his knowledge she wasn't pregnant, then she contacts him years later out of the blue to disclose the stillbirth and wanted to meet him to take him to an unmarked grave.

The cynic in me had doubts, as far as the ex was concerned. I will admit there was an air of disbelief. Why would she hide the pregnancy and stillbirth then contact him later on down the line? I questioned whether it was a lie, to be honest.

Me being the soft touch I am, believing that the suppressed grief had surfaced and that he was struggling with his mental health, I urged him to speak to a GP. He assured me he didn't need to and he would be ok. He seemed fine, no obvious signs of mental health problems.

A few weeks pass and we are getting on just fine, then today he's 6+ hours late from work again. He works nights and was supposed to be home at 10am this morning.

I'm texting him all day, worried. Eventually he responds at 3pm saying "for your information I made an appointment to speak to a doctor about feeling depressed, like you advised. I'm taking your advice"

I ask why he didn't tell me, and where has he been all day. He replies avoiding the question but says he has been on his own "just thinking about everything" us, money, the kids.

He's still not home and I'm ashamed to say I'm on the verge of telling him to post his keys and stay away. I can't do this anymore.

He has lied before, I don't trust him. It feels like the stillborn story was given to explain away his strange behaviour before, out of the blue, and the doctors story today is an excuse for being awol again.

His doctor doesn't do same day appointments. He wouldn't even go to the dentist after suffering from terrible toothache for months so I really don't believe it.

He's cheating isn't he? Using mental health and other things to make me second guess myself.

OP posts:
Scbchl · 24/11/2019 00:28

I wonder if the woman he is seeing is the woman who friend requested you. And the reason hes been so weird was because she was putting pressure on him to tell you and to leave or she would contact you. Then when he found out he friend requested you he had no choice and left because it would be easier than her telling you and him being there having to deal with it. Once he left he said to her right I have left and told her delete your profile please.

Lumpybumps1 · 24/11/2019 00:44

Entirely possible Scb

I doubted that initially as the woman looked to be in her fifties and he has always gone for younger women, he's 34.

These past months have showed me that I don't know him at all though so yep anything is possible

He's saying he's going to be here at 10.30

Monday55 · 24/11/2019 00:50

Call his work and ask if he's done over time? Or enquire and say he had been under paid for the overtime? Hopefully they'll just stop you in your tracks and tell you he hasn't done any overtime.

Lumpybumps1 · 24/11/2019 01:02

It's a good idea but I'm not sure if they'd disclose that to me would they? He has only been there a little over a month and the boss doesn't know me

Robin2323 · 24/11/2019 06:04

Work won't give out that information .
Doesn't matter any way.

Also any questions you ask will be answered with lies.
He'll feel guilty so will get defensive.

This ow means nothing

She's just a destruction form his 'problems'

Instead of rolling up his sleeves and working out his problems he uses an ow / affair to distract from them - it's easier.

At some point he will realise this. The grass is never greener Sad really.

And the ow all tend to be the same. ( assuming she knows he was married)
They think he'll be different with them - he won't lol

justilou1 · 24/11/2019 07:39

It doesn’t matter if she’s fifty or fifteen (although it might be gratifying to get the fucker arrested). She is a symptom, not the problem. He is the problem, and we all know that. She is merely a symbol of his entitlement. She might as well be a blow-up doll. She is not a person to him. Just somewhere warm and wet and willing to put his dick. Ew.... no accounting for taste. Now he is her problem. You need to focus on getting your CBA forms filled in as quickly as you can. (While you know where he works - so they can track his sorry arse down.) If he is capable of showing so little remorse right now and this is when he should be at his MOST guilty, I wouldn’t even hint that you are doing this. He will disappear off the face of the earth and you will get nothing. Normally men are at their most generous guy after leaving and the signs are not good for you and the kids in the long-term with this parasite of a man. Please be careful about how much information you give him in the heat of the moment. Hide all financials. (Maybe take his phone and lock him in the bedroom and see how HE likes it....)

Lumpybumps1 · 24/11/2019 08:54

Thanks ladies

Any idea how I can get her name out of him without him knowing I don't already know who she is? I want to hear what she has to say.

I've made it sound like I know who she is and don't want it to become clear that I was bluffing..

litterbird · 24/11/2019 09:15

I would er on a caution to find out who she is and track her down. Please could you find the strength to let them go. I know how hard this is as I have been there. You have to step back with dignity. Your ex and the OW are in the throws of hormones and talking futures. It will probably blow up eventually. I know you are angry, I know you want justice and I know you want to humiliate and her them both as much as they are hurting you and the children. Please reconsider and step back and watch the car crash behind a pane of glass.

Robin2323 · 24/11/2019 09:19

Please reconsider and step back and watch the car crash behind a pane of glass.

This @litterbird
Has got it so right.
If you see into the future you would just laugh - he's being so predictable.

YouJustDoYou · 24/11/2019 09:22

It would be the ultimate middle finger to him if you grey rocked him, but this is obviously so so much easier said than done. All that "oh but I didn't think you'd want me" bullshit is just insulting. He's only saying it to imply yet again you're the one at fault. What a fucking dickhead.

OhamIreally · 24/11/2019 09:25

Hello Lumpy. I think you should be cold and businesslike when he shows up. Focus on how he is going to share the childcare only.
You've got a lot going on and need to prioritise what you get out of the meeting.

  1. Cold dignity will help you feel more in control.
  2. Dismiss any self pitying talk from him and stick to the practicalities
  3. Have a specific suggestion rather than vague "help with the kids"

Don't worry that he'll take the kids off you, that doesn't fit with his plans at all. You need to secure as much time and financial contribution as possible to reduce the coming burden on you.

My ex abandoned me and our daughter, no discussion he just left the house and got on a train. He has never had a conversation with me about it and I never got closure. Facing this future he has pushed you towards is horrific I know.

Lumpybumps1 · 24/11/2019 09:26

Taken on board, I'll do my best to ask no questions. This is going to be hard Sad

Lumpybumps1 · 24/11/2019 09:28

I'm so sorry that happened to you Oham

These bastards should be charged with child abandonment. It's awful that they get to do this to their families.

OhamIreally · 24/11/2019 09:57

Yes it is breathtakingly unfair. Please hold your nerve today you will thank yourself for it afterwards.

I do understand that what you really want to do is scream and rant and tear your hair.

RLEOM · 24/11/2019 12:30

What @litterbird said. It will come crashing down. Leave with dignity, move on with your life, even if you haven't, appear like you have. I know this is easier said than done but it's the best way moving forward.

Lumpybumps1 · 24/11/2019 13:15

I didn't need to ask questions, he poured it all out when he arrived. He thought I knew everything already.

Ex colleague from old place of work, 38 years old. He panicked when I got the friends request because OW had warned him "tell her or I will"

The friend request was OW's friend.

He's slept with her three times, citing loneliness and depression and she was somebody to talk to.

He claims she wanted more and he didn't, he stayed in touch with her (claiming) he was trying to keep her sweet out of fear she would tell me.

After the last time they slept together (No protection ever used) she was making comments such as "well if I don't come on my period then you'll see"

He said she has since confirmed she did come on her period.

He claims to have last spoke to her 2 days ago and told her "I don't want this" to which she replied they should meet and talk, he claims he said no and has been ignoring her since.

My kids have seen her once, at the park. He said he didn't take them to her house.

She sounds just as fucked up as he is. I kept a poker face. they deserve each other.

He wanted to take the kids out I said no, you need to watch them here whilst I go and get some rest. I haven't slept properly in days.

I'm now in the bedroom shaking.

He's a massive fucking cunt.

longtimelurkerhelen · 24/11/2019 13:55

Yes he is, please don't take him back again. You got him off the tenancy, sorted out your finances, don't slip back.

If you do take him back you will have a lifetime of this, your mental health will not survive if you're hyper vigilant (and you will be) in checking everything he does, just waiting for the next time.

Try to get some rest and make him go when you wake up.

Flowers
Ruby666 · 24/11/2019 15:42

Ergh what a disgusting excuse for a man he is, especially as he’s been having sex unprotected.

I wouldn’t believe that he hasn’t seen her, why would his phone be off otherwise?

Hope ur okay OP and have got some much deserved rest x

Robin2323 · 24/11/2019 16:11

I'm sorry to hear your update.
Relationship end and it's sad.
Like I said pp the ow was just a distraction.
And in this case not much of one.
Sounds like everyone involved is in pain.
I know it's hard but best things to do now is regroup.
Try and keep communication civil and sort out the practical stuff with kids and money.
Thinking of you all Thanks

Rose87777 · 24/11/2019 16:16

Disgusting. Just utterly disgusting.

PolarCats · 24/11/2019 16:31

What a pathetic twat!

letsdolunch321 · 24/11/2019 16:42

@lumpy - He is an absolute wanker giving you the sob story and hoping you believe him. How long till her does the same with another woman.

Show him the door the massive dickhead

hamalooya · 24/11/2019 17:26

He is trying to pave the way to come back from the sound of it. Please try get a good rest. Your children need you and clearly it's only you they can rely on. Don't do the pick me dance with him as you will never be able to trust him again. Feel so bad for you, remember you do not deserve this and lack of sex etc. is the oldest excuse in the book. Be kind to yourself Thanks

Lumpybumps1 · 24/11/2019 18:50

Well he's full of shit when he left he text and admitted he had been staying with her the whole time wow

Lumpybumps1 · 24/11/2019 18:54

All the speal he gave me here was bollocks and he's been holed up with her practically in a relationship already