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DP gone awol again, he's cheating isn't he? Please help me gain clarify

542 replies

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 15:53

I need some advice because I feel very confused. I feel as though he is deliberately trying to play mind games.

My partner of several years with whom I have children with has been behaving strangely for the past 6-8 weeks. I had a thread here in relationships, you might recognise some details.

Three times in the space of a fortnight he said he was leaving me and then changed his mind saying he was just confused. He has been more than 6 hours late home on several occasions, explaining it away as overtime.

After the second time I demanded to know what the hell was going on, suspecting there was an OW involved but still somewhat in denial and confused.

He said he wanted to talk to me properly and make it work, during the "talk" he told me that many years before we met an ex had contacted him and disclosed that she had given birth to a baby, stillborn. He told me that he had no idea about the pregnancy and she had hidden it from him, contacting him two years after they broke up to tell him - long after she'd had the baby. He said this ex took him to an unmarked grave and said that's where the baby was buried, and that the baby wasn't named.

Obviously I was devastated for him, but confused why that would leave him doubting our relationship.

However, some things weren't adding up. It's relevant to include that (he said) the ex was a habitual liar and took drugs alot and was dishonest, his words.

The relationship ended, to his knowledge she wasn't pregnant, then she contacts him years later out of the blue to disclose the stillbirth and wanted to meet him to take him to an unmarked grave.

The cynic in me had doubts, as far as the ex was concerned. I will admit there was an air of disbelief. Why would she hide the pregnancy and stillbirth then contact him later on down the line? I questioned whether it was a lie, to be honest.

Me being the soft touch I am, believing that the suppressed grief had surfaced and that he was struggling with his mental health, I urged him to speak to a GP. He assured me he didn't need to and he would be ok. He seemed fine, no obvious signs of mental health problems.

A few weeks pass and we are getting on just fine, then today he's 6+ hours late from work again. He works nights and was supposed to be home at 10am this morning.

I'm texting him all day, worried. Eventually he responds at 3pm saying "for your information I made an appointment to speak to a doctor about feeling depressed, like you advised. I'm taking your advice"

I ask why he didn't tell me, and where has he been all day. He replies avoiding the question but says he has been on his own "just thinking about everything" us, money, the kids.

He's still not home and I'm ashamed to say I'm on the verge of telling him to post his keys and stay away. I can't do this anymore.

He has lied before, I don't trust him. It feels like the stillborn story was given to explain away his strange behaviour before, out of the blue, and the doctors story today is an excuse for being awol again.

His doctor doesn't do same day appointments. He wouldn't even go to the dentist after suffering from terrible toothache for months so I really don't believe it.

He's cheating isn't he? Using mental health and other things to make me second guess myself.

OP posts:
Lumpybumps1 · 24/11/2019 18:55

Just didn't have the bottle to tell me to my face, instead making up a whole concocted story. It gets worse doesn't it

Foldinglaundryisnotforme · 24/11/2019 19:09

What a fuckin idiot, he's going round in circles trying to get some sort of reaction

Pantalaimon88 · 24/11/2019 19:18

Lumpy, I thought he was a repulsive cunt when he was badgering you for sex when you were barely weeks past a traumatic birth and prolapsed. Now there isn’t a word to describe how utterly foul he is.

Please stop engaging with him. Give him certain slots a week (whenever works for you) that he can come around and see the children. I agree he shouldn’t be allowed to take them out yet, he has proven he can’t be trusted. Outside of discussing the contact arrangements and finances for the children, you have no need to talk to him at all. Cut off his endless stream of bullshit, you don’t need to hear it.

And put in a CSA claim if you haven’t already!

Ruby666 · 24/11/2019 20:19

He’s a compulsive liar by the sounds of it Lumpy, I’m so sorry Sad
I wouldn’t even bother texting him back only contact him in relation to the children, he will soon be wondering why you ain’t chasing him and why you don’t care.

minou123 · 24/11/2019 20:34

Lumpybumps1

I've just read through your thread and I just wanted to come on and say that you are amazing. I know you probably dont feel like it, but I think you are so strong.

Just to offer my piece of advice, he is a complete cunt. After the last few weeks, I think it's fair to say you can not trust a word that ever comes out if his mouth.
I'm pleased you didnt ask questions today, because I knew he would just lie.

It may be worth starting to think about what you want. Personally, I would go after him for every penny you can, but you may not be able to force him to see the children, IYSWIM.
He may step up and decide to co-parent, but it might be worth having a think about what you want /need to do if he doesnt. I dont think he can be trusted to see/look after the children regularly.

alexafindfilms · 25/11/2019 00:22
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MsDogLady · 25/11/2019 02:12

I also vividly recall your previous thread. Your partner was a massive sex pest after your severe birth injuries and sepsis. When you drew a firm boundary, he ramped up his manipulative and malicious behavior. He even involved the children/family when he repeatedly didn’t feed the baby or lock the house at night in order to upset you.

This man is totally egocentric and remorseless. His current sociopathic behavior is unsurprising. I agree with @Pantalaimon88 regarding reducing your interaction and only allowing him to see the children at home. You cannot believe a word he says, and he has already exposed the children to his illicit affair.

Lumpybumps1 · 25/11/2019 07:19

The bitch came to my house at 5.30 this morning and woke my disabled son.

I said who are you and said I'm the person he's been having an affair with for the past 6 months.

6 fucking months. So one month after I left hospital after almost losing my life having our baby.

He's gone awol from her now and she came looking for him thinking he had come back to me.

Oh and guess what, the friend request was her, not her friend.

She's twice my age and looks like she smokes 40 a day. He's 34, I'm 25 and she's easily in her fifties. I'm not being ageist but I can't believe he would stoop so low. There are many beautiful older women, I know plenty, but she's as rough as a badgers arse

She also told me he had been seeing another ex.

I couldn't find the words to say much I'm in that much shock. I told her she needed to leave but took her number and said I would call if I wanted to know anything else. I won't be doing.

I had been laid in bed for hours failing to sleep. What the actual fuck

Lumpybumps1 · 25/11/2019 07:21

Is anybody awake I don't know what to do with myself

Lumpybumps1 · 25/11/2019 07:24

I was laid in bed panicking about having a breakdown and then that happens. I can't take much more of this

simplekindoflife · 25/11/2019 07:28

How dare she come to your house at that time and bombard you on your doorstep?! Horrible selfish woman!!

They sound like they deserve each other. You deserve better than this OP. He's a complete bastard.

crispysausagerolls · 25/11/2019 07:29

Hey - I’m awake. You handled it excellently, well done. What a fucking bitch!!!!!!!!!

crispysausagerolls · 25/11/2019 07:30

The fact she looks horrendous and he’s apparently had something with an ex indicates it’s not some wonderful love he has for her - he’s just got a lot of problems and needs validation from whoever is available. What a pathetic piece of shit. You are doing so well x

Lumpybumps1 · 25/11/2019 07:31

I can't register what just happened, she had the nerve to come here like she was the wronged party. My partner of donkeys years and father of my children has just ruined our lives and some tart with no morals thinks she's hard done by

Lumpybumps1 · 25/11/2019 07:32

She had a car full of people with her too by the way, I'm guessing it was people from the night team and she had came straight after the shift.

God knows what would have happened if I were argumentative

crispysausagerolls · 25/11/2019 07:32

Probably fed you all the bullshit in the hope you’d take him back because he’s not interested in her. Honestly can’t believe she had the nerve to show up at your house, and at that time 😱 have you contacted him? I would definitely not contact him! Wait until next time he shows up and feeds you some lies, then you can deadpan him with “yes, badgers arse was here”

dontgochasingwaterfalls · 25/11/2019 07:33

Oh my god! What a silly cow she is.. even if he had come back to you what's that to do with her when you two have children together!
How is she still trying to pursue things with him when he's cheated on you with her, having an affair with ANOTHER person and gone awol.. she must be desperate!!

Lumpybumps1 · 25/11/2019 07:37

I would post a photo of her if it wouldn't get me banned so you can all laugh at the badgers arse but I value the support here too much to risk it.

Absolutely fuming

Lumpybumps1 · 25/11/2019 07:40

3 nytols I took last night and they didn't come close to making my mind switch off

crispysausagerolls · 25/11/2019 07:56

I’m not sure about the sleeping pills btw if you have a young baby - you don’t want to be sparko if baby needs you!

Any chance of a nap today?

YouJustDoYou · 25/11/2019 08:14

Are you going to tell him she came to your house and woke up his child? Wonder if even that would move him. Probably not tell.him if she comes onto the property again you'll call the police.

tiintoon · 25/11/2019 08:18

Oh God almighty, that woman has some nerve! How disgusting. By the sounds of it, your stupid ex wanted sex so bad that he just chose the first person that gave him some.
I'm so sorry about you not being able to sleep, I know how that feels and can imagine how it affects you during the day. Could your mum be in another room with your DS1 so that when the baby sleeps, you could sleep with the baby. This way you'd feel safer and maybe are able to rest a bit?

thesunwillout · 25/11/2019 08:39

Op, when the shock of her turning up like that wears off you could look at it as being
'they are as fucked up as each other, and I am not going to let them ruin my life'

Honestly, what a couple of skanky pathetic drama queens.
You hold on to those kiddies and give them love.
You're a young woman, with alot ahead, you can live without this idiot.
I know it hurts, but you are strong enough, and every smile or happy moment with your children will start to fill your heart, and give you direction and strength.
Xx

IWorkAtTheCheesecakeFactory · 25/11/2019 09:10

How fucking dare she?? I can’t believe she actually did that to you! For all she knew you might have been totally oblivious to his cheating so she could have been turning up at 5:30am to a house with a baby and a disabled child to blow your life apart! What the hell is wrong with her? Who does that to another woman? No matter how angry she is with him how on earth can she justify doing that to you? I am so angry for you OP. They’re a pair of turds.

IWorkAtTheCheesecakeFactory · 25/11/2019 09:11

And you were right not to let him take your children anywhere near her!