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DP gone awol again, he's cheating isn't he? Please help me gain clarify

542 replies

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 15:53

I need some advice because I feel very confused. I feel as though he is deliberately trying to play mind games.

My partner of several years with whom I have children with has been behaving strangely for the past 6-8 weeks. I had a thread here in relationships, you might recognise some details.

Three times in the space of a fortnight he said he was leaving me and then changed his mind saying he was just confused. He has been more than 6 hours late home on several occasions, explaining it away as overtime.

After the second time I demanded to know what the hell was going on, suspecting there was an OW involved but still somewhat in denial and confused.

He said he wanted to talk to me properly and make it work, during the "talk" he told me that many years before we met an ex had contacted him and disclosed that she had given birth to a baby, stillborn. He told me that he had no idea about the pregnancy and she had hidden it from him, contacting him two years after they broke up to tell him - long after she'd had the baby. He said this ex took him to an unmarked grave and said that's where the baby was buried, and that the baby wasn't named.

Obviously I was devastated for him, but confused why that would leave him doubting our relationship.

However, some things weren't adding up. It's relevant to include that (he said) the ex was a habitual liar and took drugs alot and was dishonest, his words.

The relationship ended, to his knowledge she wasn't pregnant, then she contacts him years later out of the blue to disclose the stillbirth and wanted to meet him to take him to an unmarked grave.

The cynic in me had doubts, as far as the ex was concerned. I will admit there was an air of disbelief. Why would she hide the pregnancy and stillbirth then contact him later on down the line? I questioned whether it was a lie, to be honest.

Me being the soft touch I am, believing that the suppressed grief had surfaced and that he was struggling with his mental health, I urged him to speak to a GP. He assured me he didn't need to and he would be ok. He seemed fine, no obvious signs of mental health problems.

A few weeks pass and we are getting on just fine, then today he's 6+ hours late from work again. He works nights and was supposed to be home at 10am this morning.

I'm texting him all day, worried. Eventually he responds at 3pm saying "for your information I made an appointment to speak to a doctor about feeling depressed, like you advised. I'm taking your advice"

I ask why he didn't tell me, and where has he been all day. He replies avoiding the question but says he has been on his own "just thinking about everything" us, money, the kids.

He's still not home and I'm ashamed to say I'm on the verge of telling him to post his keys and stay away. I can't do this anymore.

He has lied before, I don't trust him. It feels like the stillborn story was given to explain away his strange behaviour before, out of the blue, and the doctors story today is an excuse for being awol again.

His doctor doesn't do same day appointments. He wouldn't even go to the dentist after suffering from terrible toothache for months so I really don't believe it.

He's cheating isn't he? Using mental health and other things to make me second guess myself.

OP posts:
Lumpybumps1 · 23/11/2019 20:04

I will look for that book, thank you

I've been reading the chump lady and surviving infidelity sites

I think if I get the all clear from my scan that will help. I'll be able to see it as a fresh start and have a newfound appreciation for life as opposed to wallowing in crisis

heneverkeepshisword · 23/11/2019 20:08

@Lumpybumps1 I have just read your whole thread!
And god am I sorry you are going through all this! Men can really be evil!

I have no words of advice unfortunately. But just wanted to send my well wishes ThanksThanks

Chickenwing · 23/11/2019 20:32

@Lumpybumps1 do NOT text him anymore!! Trust me if you go radio silence he will get anxious and contact u first/more regularly. Your desperate messages will only push him away, it is harsh but true. He is an absolute arsehole.

In the meantime you do need support, but not from him!! You said your mum drinks, but hopefully despite that you can still lean on her?? Do u have friends to support?

You will get through this and dont need that cheating horrible manipulative rat. You will when you are ready find someone fabulous to treat you right. And your ex will regret everything he ever did.

Pantalaimon88 · 23/11/2019 20:35

OP did you have a previous thread just after your youngest was born about how your DH was pressuring you for sex all the time despite you having awful birth injuries? Was this you, or am I getting you mixed up with someone else?

Ruby666 · 23/11/2019 20:36

Hes just a total dick by the sounds of it OP, any luck on finding that woman on fb?

Lumpybumps1 · 23/11/2019 20:36

Thank you hen and others for the virtual hand hold. You lot are my saving grace at the minute

Chicken, I know that you're right. I'm going to do my utmost to resist the urge to text him again. The last message I sent was "How dare you do this to us and then turn your phone off and pretend we don't exist. What if I needed to get in touch with you urgently about the children"

RE my mum, fortunately she is here now and being supportive. She's not one for practical advice but the company is appreciated.

Starting to feel sick again and I've just started my period which doesn't help the emotions/feeling drained. Ugh

Lumpybumps1 · 23/11/2019 20:37

Pantal yes that is me Sad

Ruby I'm not sure. He claims to not use Facebook. He has an account but claims to not have accessed it in years so he wouldn't be putting anything on there even if he were using it.

Thank God I have beta blockers I'm a nervous wreck

Lumpybumps1 · 23/11/2019 20:38

Sorry I misread your question ruby. Nope no luck in finding the woman who added me and I've had no further requests

sijjy · 23/11/2019 21:01

Try and eat little and often. Reading something while eating helps as it takes your mind off the actual eating. Also you can get nutrient shakes from the chemist these help a little.
Thanks be kind to yourself. So sorry you are going through this.

Lumpybumps1 · 23/11/2019 21:09

Thank you sijjy I'll take those suggestions onboard.

I've just blocked him on WhatsApp. The aim is when he turns his phone on and realises that, he'll have a taste of anxiety himself.

Lumpybumps1 · 23/11/2019 21:37

He's just replied

"I'll b home tomorrow il take kids out shopping going to get them clothes"

I'm willing myself not to respond. I don't know what he means by he'll be home tomorrow, I almost don't trust him to take the kids anywhere.

Lumpybumps1 · 23/11/2019 21:38

I didn't block his texts btw, just WhatsApp

Lumpybumps1 · 23/11/2019 21:42

Looks like he's working tonight. He starts at 10 that's why miraculously his phone goes on now, because he's not with OW

Ruby666 · 23/11/2019 21:45

I wouldn’t even trust him to take them shopping if you think he’s been taking them with him to see the OW.

Lumpybumps1 · 23/11/2019 21:47

He admitted he has been taking them around OW so I'm not going to trust him to take them anywhere.

I told him I was struggling last night so I wouldn't put it past him trying to take them away

Lumpybumps1 · 23/11/2019 21:51

I haven't replied yet, but he's going on about sex now.

He's saying he felt like the only reason I slept with him last time we DTD was because I was tipsy.

How in the hell is that relevant now.

This is how warped his mind is. He's a sex obsessive and shallow.

Ruby666 · 23/11/2019 21:57

What on earth is wrong with him... does he not think having two young kids and a lot of stress would put you off sex anyways?

He’s just trying to guilt trip you into excusing his actions x

Lumpybumps1 · 23/11/2019 22:01

Couldn't agree more ruby. I'm forcing myself to ignore him.

Another one has come through, citing money worries at the start of the affair now saying he was in a bad place because he lost his (old) job and didn't think I would want to stay with him because he's a failure (his words)

It just goes to show how shallow he truly is

WhoKnewBeefStew · 23/11/2019 22:26

Keep ignoring him op. He'll sooN finish work and then switch his phone off again. Nothing good will come of talking to him right now.

You're doing great Thanks

haflump · 23/11/2019 23:03

Oh OP you poor thing, I’ve just RTFT and I don’t often comment but had to come on to say what an absolute cunt he is! Locking you in the bedroom is unbelievably cruel, as is pressuring you to have sex after such horrific birth injuries (and as a HV I’ve heard many a tale about birth injuries!). Any man who cares not one bit about his children, is not a man worth a thought. Ignore his sob stories and vent here rather than at him, he doesn’t deserve it. From even the very beginning of the thread, you sound like such a lovely level-headed person and so understanding. The bastard has completely taken advantage of how caring you are and I suspect has fully been using his Aspergers as an excuse for his twatty behaviour.

I know you must be hurting so much, especially with your health worries and judging by your new username it’s nothing lightSad Please try to eat something to keep you going, even if it’s just dry bland foods like crackers which are easier to keep down. Talking therapies is good if you feel up for it later down the line, and get your evidences and ducks in a row regarding finances.

Fingers crossed for your scan Lumpy 🤞🏽

TokenGinger · 23/11/2019 23:35

I've just read through all of this. I feel so sorry for you, OP. What an awful man.

Do not let him take the children tomorrow. I have a feeling this has been going on a while and that the OW doesn't know about you, or believes you've been separated a while if he's taking the kids to her. She probably thinks you've had an amicable break-up and that you're okay with her being around on his contact days.

Take the money from him tomorrow and let him stay home with the kids and you go out and buy them the clothes if you feel physically up to it. If you need to sleep, though, try and think of a way that he can't take the kids out of the house.

What an utter bastard he is.

Lumpybumps1 · 23/11/2019 23:45

As much as I need a break I just can't trust him to take them anywhere at the minute, who knows what he's been telling the OW or what part she thinks she plays in their lives. It makes me sick to think of her hugging my children and holding my baby Sad

The eldest has SN and I'm devastated that the fact he is non verbal has been exploited, because his shit father knows he can't tell me where he's been taking him.

I'm not sure I'm physically up to going shopping on his behalf. I feel dreadful.

Really don't know what to do if he turns up. I haven't replied yet. So bloody hard not to but I'm making him sweat.

Lumpybumps1 · 23/11/2019 23:47

If he comes I'm going to struggle not to ask questions, then when he answers them I'll get upset and angry. Why did he have to do this to me he has put me in an impossible situation Angry

poorlymatchedsocks · 24/11/2019 00:11

You poor think op. What a horrible little man he is Thanks

Lumpybumps1 · 24/11/2019 00:18

If I had the strength I would follow him as to confront the bastards together (or drop him in it if she doesn't know about me) but I'm physically and mentally drained at the minute and don't think I'm in the best place for confrontation with some tart (or unknowing woman)

I'm going to try to sleep, I'll update if he comes. Thank you all once again

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