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DP gone awol again, he's cheating isn't he? Please help me gain clarify

542 replies

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 15:53

I need some advice because I feel very confused. I feel as though he is deliberately trying to play mind games.

My partner of several years with whom I have children with has been behaving strangely for the past 6-8 weeks. I had a thread here in relationships, you might recognise some details.

Three times in the space of a fortnight he said he was leaving me and then changed his mind saying he was just confused. He has been more than 6 hours late home on several occasions, explaining it away as overtime.

After the second time I demanded to know what the hell was going on, suspecting there was an OW involved but still somewhat in denial and confused.

He said he wanted to talk to me properly and make it work, during the "talk" he told me that many years before we met an ex had contacted him and disclosed that she had given birth to a baby, stillborn. He told me that he had no idea about the pregnancy and she had hidden it from him, contacting him two years after they broke up to tell him - long after she'd had the baby. He said this ex took him to an unmarked grave and said that's where the baby was buried, and that the baby wasn't named.

Obviously I was devastated for him, but confused why that would leave him doubting our relationship.

However, some things weren't adding up. It's relevant to include that (he said) the ex was a habitual liar and took drugs alot and was dishonest, his words.

The relationship ended, to his knowledge she wasn't pregnant, then she contacts him years later out of the blue to disclose the stillbirth and wanted to meet him to take him to an unmarked grave.

The cynic in me had doubts, as far as the ex was concerned. I will admit there was an air of disbelief. Why would she hide the pregnancy and stillbirth then contact him later on down the line? I questioned whether it was a lie, to be honest.

Me being the soft touch I am, believing that the suppressed grief had surfaced and that he was struggling with his mental health, I urged him to speak to a GP. He assured me he didn't need to and he would be ok. He seemed fine, no obvious signs of mental health problems.

A few weeks pass and we are getting on just fine, then today he's 6+ hours late from work again. He works nights and was supposed to be home at 10am this morning.

I'm texting him all day, worried. Eventually he responds at 3pm saying "for your information I made an appointment to speak to a doctor about feeling depressed, like you advised. I'm taking your advice"

I ask why he didn't tell me, and where has he been all day. He replies avoiding the question but says he has been on his own "just thinking about everything" us, money, the kids.

He's still not home and I'm ashamed to say I'm on the verge of telling him to post his keys and stay away. I can't do this anymore.

He has lied before, I don't trust him. It feels like the stillborn story was given to explain away his strange behaviour before, out of the blue, and the doctors story today is an excuse for being awol again.

His doctor doesn't do same day appointments. He wouldn't even go to the dentist after suffering from terrible toothache for months so I really don't believe it.

He's cheating isn't he? Using mental health and other things to make me second guess myself.

OP posts:
simplekindoflife · 22/11/2019 21:35

So sorry you're going through all this OP. Hope you manage to get some sleep tonight Thanks

Rose87777 · 22/11/2019 22:35

He’s probably trying to work out how you “know” the details.

I busted an ex of mine years ago with the same sort of tactic. Told his best friend I knew all about “Amy” (who was the girl I ^^suspected he had been cheating with). The silly bugger then filled in all the details. When my jaw hit the floor he realised he’d f**ed up big time Confused

Lumpybumps1 · 23/11/2019 06:47

Not the sharpest tools in the box are they rose, the morons.

I've had some more texts but still no explanation in any of them. He's droning on about how he loves me more than "he" knows(?) and how he felt pushed away and that he got the impression I didn't want him anymore yada yada. The usual crap, shifting responsibility and saying he felt unloved.

Then he's saying he frustrates himself because he doesn't deal with things properly and it eats away at him and he ends up making things worse but he was "trying to be good" (?) Like he can't help himself.

I'm bracing myself for a cop out like sex addiction now.

He said once he cheated he went and showered and felt ashamed of himself for fucking up an "amazing thing"

DS woke up inconsolable looking around for him. ExDp used to sleep in the same room as him for comfort so DS is struggling with him not being here.

I don't think I'm going to get a proper explanation anytime soon, just a load of jargon and woe is me.

Lumpybumps1 · 23/11/2019 06:54

Oh and the "feeling unwanted" stems way back from when I was heavily pregnant with our eldest, because I had crippling SPD and could barely walk and had complete placenta previa so sex was a no go because it could have caused a fatal hemmorhage.

Sex has been few and far between since the birth of the youngest too, because I was recovering from sepsis and a bad tear and I have a pelvic organ prolapse to boot aswell as PTSD from the birth trauma and almost losing my life.

I'm supposed to be flattered that he was still interested in me sexually, despite me being physically not up to the job.

What a shallow and ignorant bastard he really is.

Lumpybumps1 · 23/11/2019 06:59

But given we have two so close in age I think that goes to show that he wasn't as neglected as much as he claims to have been. Whenever I was physically able to, I made the effort to maintain that aspect of the relationship.

Foldinglaundryisnotforme · 23/11/2019 07:11

If i were you I'd reply with one shirt and simple message.... I am not willing to be your sounding board for you to ease your own guilt. You promised me an explanation and the truth, it's the very least I deserve and until you are going to provide me with this then please don't contact me.

Cheeky bastard that he is. Poor confused man it's such a shame let's forgive him as he's just a silly man who doesn't know how to deal with emotions Hmm

Foldinglaundryisnotforme · 23/11/2019 07:12

Short*

YouJustDoYou · 23/11/2019 11:54

Aaaah, cheaters bingo - I felt pushed away, I felt unwanted, I didn't mean for it to happen, you confused me because you didn't want me, it's you I love, I'm just so ashamed of myself, and so forth. All bollocks to try and illicit sympathy somehow for the poor ickle man who couldn't possibly stop himself

Lumpybumps1 · 23/11/2019 13:15

Yep. He was texting throughout the night until just after 8, when he finishes work.

I told him he needs to have the children today so I can sort myself out.

He has now turned his phone off again.

So whilst he's with her he keeps the phone off, texts me when he's at work then when he finishes and goes back to her he turns the phone off again.

He knows how much I'm struggling and still doesn't bother helping with the children. He gives not one shit about them and that's what hurts more than anything.

Lumpybumps1 · 23/11/2019 13:19

It's almost hilarious how much the tables have turned in days, he has gone from hiding her existence to me to now hiding his being in touch with me from her.

Newschapter · 23/11/2019 15:34

Hi Lumpy,

I'm so sorry for what you're going through at the minute.

A health scare is traumatic enough without him dumping on you too. What a scumbag.

Re: overtime, prepare yourself for him not having earned as much as you think he might have as he most likely wasn't doing overtime at work, but spending time with her.

Lumpybumps1 · 23/11/2019 15:42

Yes that's what I've concluded he was doing News, and thank you for the kind words.

He claimed to be planning to go shopping today to get the kids some clothes, shopping with her more like to replace all his own clothes. There's no sign of anything for the children coming here.

If I weren't a better person for having children I would be finding every possible way to make his life hell.

I haven't been sick today thankfully and have managed a few bananas but I feel so weak and weary Sad

Ruby666 · 23/11/2019 18:36

Hi lumpy glad you have managed to eat a little bit today, did anything turn up for the kids in the end? Sounds like he’s trying to keep you on side with the poor me hard done by partner act, just incase it goes tits up with his new bit.

Lumpybumps1 · 23/11/2019 18:48

Hi Ruby,

Nope did he heck. Nothing Sad

I gave him a list of things they needed and he hasn't acknowledged it, despite saying off his own back that was his plan - to buy for them.

He has had his phone off all day, making me dissapear so I don't interrupt his lovely time with OW

Lumpybumps1 · 23/11/2019 18:50

I feel so lost. It hurts very much to know he cares so little about me and the children that he can just switch his phone off and choose not to think about us despite me going through hell.

Lumpybumps1 · 23/11/2019 18:57

I keep worrying about my upcoming scan and scared that if it's bad news and I'm really poorly then I have to go through such a frightening time whilst being absolutely heartbroken. I don't think anyone deserves that Sad

Abouttimemum · 23/11/2019 19:04

He’s an absolute wanker. I would make every effort to ensure you can make contact with his dad so that he knows exactly what his son has done and what he’s doing to his grandchildren. I’ll bet my life he has no idea.

Thinking of you OP. You’re better than him in every way and he doesn’t deserve you x

WizardOfAus · 23/11/2019 19:09

I agree Lumpy. Try make contact with his dad and and let him know. Hope you get some sleep tonight. X

Lumpybumps1 · 23/11/2019 19:13

I think his dad knows, he brought him back here in his car the evening he has since admitted to being with OW.

He saw OW then went to his dad's, spoke to his dad for advice I'm guessing, then his dad brought him back but didn't come inside Sad

Lumpybumps1 · 23/11/2019 19:15

As much as I like and got on with his dad, he did the same to ExP's mum so I don't think he will care too much.

When his dad left his mum, he didn't see him or his siblings for over a year.

Lumpybumps1 · 23/11/2019 19:16

My little boy is really struggling, when he gets overwhelmed he bangs his head and he has been doing it constantly today. I'm devastated

Rose87777 · 23/11/2019 19:23

So UNBELIEVABLY shit he has turned his phone off. What if one of your children had a medical emergency?!!

Lumpybumps1 · 23/11/2019 19:26

My thoughts exactly. He doesn't care at all.

During one of his awol days DS fell off the sofa and split his lip, I called him in a blind panic, sent messages which he admitted seeing but ignored.

Hours later he text saying "how's DS's mouth" feigning concern.

He's evil.

I always attributed his lack of empathy to his aspergers but I'm now wondering whether he's just a fucking narcissist.

WizardOfAus · 23/11/2019 19:31

He sounds like a classic narc. And a total fuckwit. Your life will be easier now that he’s no longer in it.

WizardOfAus · 23/11/2019 19:33

You should read the book Runaway Husbands: The Abandoned Wife's Guide to Recovery and Renewal. Lots of people recommend it on here x

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