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DP gone awol again, he's cheating isn't he? Please help me gain clarify

542 replies

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 15:53

I need some advice because I feel very confused. I feel as though he is deliberately trying to play mind games.

My partner of several years with whom I have children with has been behaving strangely for the past 6-8 weeks. I had a thread here in relationships, you might recognise some details.

Three times in the space of a fortnight he said he was leaving me and then changed his mind saying he was just confused. He has been more than 6 hours late home on several occasions, explaining it away as overtime.

After the second time I demanded to know what the hell was going on, suspecting there was an OW involved but still somewhat in denial and confused.

He said he wanted to talk to me properly and make it work, during the "talk" he told me that many years before we met an ex had contacted him and disclosed that she had given birth to a baby, stillborn. He told me that he had no idea about the pregnancy and she had hidden it from him, contacting him two years after they broke up to tell him - long after she'd had the baby. He said this ex took him to an unmarked grave and said that's where the baby was buried, and that the baby wasn't named.

Obviously I was devastated for him, but confused why that would leave him doubting our relationship.

However, some things weren't adding up. It's relevant to include that (he said) the ex was a habitual liar and took drugs alot and was dishonest, his words.

The relationship ended, to his knowledge she wasn't pregnant, then she contacts him years later out of the blue to disclose the stillbirth and wanted to meet him to take him to an unmarked grave.

The cynic in me had doubts, as far as the ex was concerned. I will admit there was an air of disbelief. Why would she hide the pregnancy and stillbirth then contact him later on down the line? I questioned whether it was a lie, to be honest.

Me being the soft touch I am, believing that the suppressed grief had surfaced and that he was struggling with his mental health, I urged him to speak to a GP. He assured me he didn't need to and he would be ok. He seemed fine, no obvious signs of mental health problems.

A few weeks pass and we are getting on just fine, then today he's 6+ hours late from work again. He works nights and was supposed to be home at 10am this morning.

I'm texting him all day, worried. Eventually he responds at 3pm saying "for your information I made an appointment to speak to a doctor about feeling depressed, like you advised. I'm taking your advice"

I ask why he didn't tell me, and where has he been all day. He replies avoiding the question but says he has been on his own "just thinking about everything" us, money, the kids.

He's still not home and I'm ashamed to say I'm on the verge of telling him to post his keys and stay away. I can't do this anymore.

He has lied before, I don't trust him. It feels like the stillborn story was given to explain away his strange behaviour before, out of the blue, and the doctors story today is an excuse for being awol again.

His doctor doesn't do same day appointments. He wouldn't even go to the dentist after suffering from terrible toothache for months so I really don't believe it.

He's cheating isn't he? Using mental health and other things to make me second guess myself.

OP posts:
Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 15:17

As I couldn't remember the woman's name, only what her profile picture was, but it had dissapesred from the mutual friends friends within the 24 hour period

IWorkAtTheCheescakeFactory · 22/11/2019 15:33

That is very strange. The woman must have either blocked both your accounts or deleted her own account shortly after sending you the request.

I don’t think its possible to stop your profile coming up on searches even if you have everything private. I’ve tested this myself as my own account is totally private and I searched it from a fake profile. My profile picture and name still came up but I couldn’t see anything on the profile page. So she must have blocked you or deleted her account.

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 15:48

Very strange indeed! IIRC she had loads of family pictures also ones she had been tagged in so the account was legit.

Looks like whoever it was had a change of heart about talking to me eh Confused

litterbird · 22/11/2019 17:06

Been loitering reading this post. You are having a severe abandonment reaction to your partner leaving. Your body is in shock and going into a fight or flight motion. Your emotions are in shock too. This can hugely impact on how your body reacts. I had the same thing when mine suddenly and unexpectedly left 4 and half years ago. Please vent here and not to him. Back off the texts as its just fuelling him to stay away. He is not ignoring you to piss you off, he is ignoring you because he knows how bad he has treated you and your children and it is GUILT that stops him from communicating as he will not be able to handle this horrible feeling. He has run into the arms of the OW who I suspect gave him an ultimatum. This script is as old as the hills but does not give him a get out of jail card for sure. So what to do immediately for you. When my body reacted like yours the only thing I could keep down was small sips of those yogurt drinks. I then couldn't sleep so went to the doctors for immediate sleep aid. They offered anti depressants but said I would go back for them if later on I needed it. I began to have panic attacks during the night and waking up in a cold sweat and heart palpitations. This all passed with time. Take a step back, he will hopefully accept responsibility for you and your children. He has gone. He has checked out. He will grieve for the end of your life together. It will impact the relationship he has with the OW hugely. Don't be surprised 6 months down the road he will want to return...they all seem to do that with the script. Good luck OP. Thinking of you xx

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 17:35

I agree with absolutely everything you have said there, litterbird.

I'm reassured to know that others can testify to what's happening to me being normal and attributed to shock.

My last XP before this was a hideously abusive man and I felt nothing but relief when I left him, this is new to me. Mind you, I guess it's different when you're the one being left.

I went through some sickening ordeals at the hand of the other ex which the kids dad knows. He was supposed to be my happily ever after. I can't believe he would chin his kids off for a woman.

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 17:40

The minds of men like this escape my understanding. I could never walk out on my kids for a bloke.

He must think he loves her, surely he wouldn't make a final break away from his family for a fling Confused

Funny that. He told me he loved me the other day.

Then disappeared with the kids whilst he was supposed to be accompanying me to a health appointment. 3 hours he was gone claiming to be at a park again.

The week before that he had them out all day (bare in mind he NEVER used to take them anywhere alone) gone all day, went to two parks with them, 4 hours. No invite for me.

I think he's formed a very telling pattern which is, whenever he's lying he mentions a park.

Perhaps he's into dogging Hmm

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 17:41

I believe he has been taking the kids to the OW.

The eldest is non verbal (asd) so he could get away with it.

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 17:58

Sorry rambling now!

Following advice to post here and not to him Smile

Ruby666 · 22/11/2019 18:04

What a nice man he seems op..not!!
Has he been acting strange for a long time or just a few weeks?

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 18:11

About 8 weeks if I really think about it. Hes never had much of a social life but started to "bump into" old colleagues from the old job, supposedly males.

Now i reflect back it's clearly been going on longer than I initially suspected.

He's very good though, he manipulates his days on and days off, so when I've been thinking he's at work he's likely having a sleep over with OW.

He used to call me on his breaks too, he doesn't do that anymore.

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 18:18

When he admitted cheating he referenced doing it on a particular day, this day he had been missing all day and I had told him I suspect he's been out cheating.

Well later that evening he returned home in his dad's car, claiming to have been with him all day.

When what he did was go and cheat then go to his dad's for a guilt talk.

Arsehole

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 18:28

He has finally replied saying "Yes I will"

In response to me asking earlier if he's going to do right by the kids

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 18:32

Another text now saying he's only got 1500 left and he's going clothes shopping for the kids tomorrow. Haven't replied yet

FlabbyYetFabby · 22/11/2019 18:53

Lumpybumps is your ASD child able to draw a picture?
You could get him to draw his day out at the park with daddy..............

Not a nice thing, but really, your ExDP has been a total shit. So sorry.
Try your very best to be LC and focus on yourself and the DCs.
He no longer cares about you, your illness, how tired you are. Shit as that sounds, guilt tripping him wont work.

Be strong, you can do it xx

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 19:09

He can't draw no Sad

Right so I've tricked him into thinking I've been contacted and told all about it. I said I know you've taken the kids to see her at least three times, I've been told, so I want a full explanation which is the least you owe me.

He said he's going to tell me everything and be honest but has asked me not to get angry. He said bare with him because it'll be several long texts.

I might be about to find out who it is, as he thinks I already know.

Just waiting now. Shaking.

Foldinglaundryisnotforme · 22/11/2019 19:15

Here for support whilst you wait lumpy. Try hard not to explode at the first text, keep your cool

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 19:21

First text is just word salad about how when he met me he couldn't believe somebody like me would look twice at him etc, all soft soaping bullshit.

Anxiously waiting the next bit..

Foldinglaundryisnotforme · 22/11/2019 19:50

Anything else yet? Seems like he's very calculating on his delivery!

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 20:12

Nothing yet whatsoever, I said though gritted teeth that im listening but could he be prompt because I'm doing the children's bedtime.

He'll be sat there writing and deleting, rewriting and trying to make himself sound as pathetic as he can. How he was lead on etc. I bet.

He's annoying me now. Just get to the fucking point man you've had two days to rehearse it.

Mummacake · 22/11/2019 20:20

Just a hand hold here. You've had good advice ,- get angry and make him step up every single time. My ex used my baby to show what a great caring dad he was Hmm. They're assholes and we're all better off without men like that. In time, you'll meet someone who truly deserves you.

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 20:24

Thank you, I'm really grateful for the support here

Strangely enough, once he confirmed he's going to be there for the children I stopped caring quite as much. Whatever he says will hurt me, but so long as he pulls his weight with the kids I can I think handle anything else.

I'll update if and when he responds. What a piss taker he is.

YouJustDoYou · 22/11/2019 20:29

It'll be some kind of waaawaawaa sob fucking story crap about woe is him. Piece of shit.

Ruby666 · 22/11/2019 20:31

hope you have managed to eat something, even if it’s some toast x

Foldinglaundryisnotforme · 22/11/2019 20:39

Wonder how long it'll take him to realise no matter which way he words it he still comes out of this the dickhead!

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 21:31

Hi all, no update unfortunately

It got to twenty past nine and I'd had enough of him pratting about so I text him asking him not to send me anything further tonight because I need to prioritise my sleep, I've had 2 1/2hrs since I realised he left me on Wednesday.

No idea what the big delay was or whether he's at work or with her and to be honest I don't even care tonight. It can wait. I've got the reassurance I was desperate for RE kids.

What i do know for sure is yes he has been having an affair and he has been taking our children to see her, multiple times.

Managed to eat half a little Apple pie and trying to work my way through some crisps before I go to sleep. Sominex at hand so fingers crossed!

My whole body aches and I'm drained beyond belief. I can't deal with any more shocks tonight

Of course I will update the thread when I do get the "explanation"

Goodnight all x

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