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DP gone awol again, he's cheating isn't he? Please help me gain clarify

542 replies

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 15:53

I need some advice because I feel very confused. I feel as though he is deliberately trying to play mind games.

My partner of several years with whom I have children with has been behaving strangely for the past 6-8 weeks. I had a thread here in relationships, you might recognise some details.

Three times in the space of a fortnight he said he was leaving me and then changed his mind saying he was just confused. He has been more than 6 hours late home on several occasions, explaining it away as overtime.

After the second time I demanded to know what the hell was going on, suspecting there was an OW involved but still somewhat in denial and confused.

He said he wanted to talk to me properly and make it work, during the "talk" he told me that many years before we met an ex had contacted him and disclosed that she had given birth to a baby, stillborn. He told me that he had no idea about the pregnancy and she had hidden it from him, contacting him two years after they broke up to tell him - long after she'd had the baby. He said this ex took him to an unmarked grave and said that's where the baby was buried, and that the baby wasn't named.

Obviously I was devastated for him, but confused why that would leave him doubting our relationship.

However, some things weren't adding up. It's relevant to include that (he said) the ex was a habitual liar and took drugs alot and was dishonest, his words.

The relationship ended, to his knowledge she wasn't pregnant, then she contacts him years later out of the blue to disclose the stillbirth and wanted to meet him to take him to an unmarked grave.

The cynic in me had doubts, as far as the ex was concerned. I will admit there was an air of disbelief. Why would she hide the pregnancy and stillbirth then contact him later on down the line? I questioned whether it was a lie, to be honest.

Me being the soft touch I am, believing that the suppressed grief had surfaced and that he was struggling with his mental health, I urged him to speak to a GP. He assured me he didn't need to and he would be ok. He seemed fine, no obvious signs of mental health problems.

A few weeks pass and we are getting on just fine, then today he's 6+ hours late from work again. He works nights and was supposed to be home at 10am this morning.

I'm texting him all day, worried. Eventually he responds at 3pm saying "for your information I made an appointment to speak to a doctor about feeling depressed, like you advised. I'm taking your advice"

I ask why he didn't tell me, and where has he been all day. He replies avoiding the question but says he has been on his own "just thinking about everything" us, money, the kids.

He's still not home and I'm ashamed to say I'm on the verge of telling him to post his keys and stay away. I can't do this anymore.

He has lied before, I don't trust him. It feels like the stillborn story was given to explain away his strange behaviour before, out of the blue, and the doctors story today is an excuse for being awol again.

His doctor doesn't do same day appointments. He wouldn't even go to the dentist after suffering from terrible toothache for months so I really don't believe it.

He's cheating isn't he? Using mental health and other things to make me second guess myself.

OP posts:
hellsbellsmelons · 22/11/2019 12:53

Sorry Lumpy. The throwing up is awful.
The pain in your heart is horrendous.
The thoughts swirling round in your head 24/7 is non-stop.
The lack of sleep hinders everything.

I must admit. I couldn't stomach any solids for quite a while.
I lived for months on sugary tea and ice-lollies.

So sorry you are going through this.
I can feel your pain through the screen.
Big (((((HUGS))))) OP! My heart is breaking for you.

Sofast · 22/11/2019 12:55

Oh op I've just read all of this and I'm so sorry you're going through it. What a horrible man

hellsbellsmelons · 22/11/2019 12:58

Again.... sorry Lumpy but his messages tell you what you need to know.
He thinks you and the KIDS will be better off without him.
He has no plans at all to parent HIS kids.
I can almost guarantee you that!

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 13:09

That is both my gut feeling and my worst fear. I couldn't give a crap what he does and with who but I need him to be a dad and lighten the load for me Sad

Many texts were sent in the early hours practically begging him to assure me he wasn't abandoning the kids. I think the fact he didn't reply says that he is.

Part of me was thinking "maybe he's deliberately not reading the texts, so it's not as if he's not acknowledging that part but it's probably because he's not looking at the text thread at all"

Fucking deluded aren't I. Of course he's reading them. He has been on his online banking and WhatsApp.

I sent a picture of our daughter when she was newborn in the hospital under the blue lights and said how can you not care about her any more. Blanked that aswell, but definitely read it.

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 13:28

" I can deal with everything else, I just need to know you won't abandon them. Please don't punish them for the fact you don't love me. I will always want you to be in their lives even if you're no longer a big part of mine. Yes I am incredibly hurt but all I'm concerned about now is how the kids will be affected "

Pathetic or reasonable?

WizardOfAus · 22/11/2019 13:28

Can you speak to his dad and tell him what has happened? Or his mum?
Tell them he’s abandoned you. He’s been cheating. He’s giving you a laughable sum of money after you’ve been supporting him for six weeks. He has no intention of seeing his kids again. Send them the text messages he sent to you. If they are decent parents, they might have a word to him?

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 13:33

He's very low contact with his mum and as a result we don't have a relationship. His father I get on well with but I don't have his contact number anymore, my old phone got water damaged and I wasn't able to retrieve anything from it.

I'm starting to worry about dehydration now, I'm constantly on the toilet and throwing up everything I drink

purpleboy · 22/11/2019 13:35

Firstly I'm so sorry about what your going through. It's truly disgusting behaviour, he really is a prick.
But you need to stop texting him, a lot of your updates are saying you've text him xyz. I understand how angry you feel and rightly so, but I'm concerned you might be coming across as a bit too full on. Messages can be used as evidence against you in future. The best tact is to pull yourself together, he is not your priority right now you and the children are. You will soon find out if he wants contact because he will get in touch with you.
Whilst your ranting at him (justifiably) your proving to him in his mind that he was right the cheat and leave someone so 'crazy' your also possibly giving him future ammunition and honestly no one wants to talk to someone who is just going to rant at them.

If you want to hear back from him, maybe you can compose 1 last message, take your time to write it, no anger. Maybe you could apologise for anything you said that could get you in trouble in future, explain how upset you were at his messages, tell him all you want is for your children to have a dad. It's sickening but if you play nice he is more likely to respond to you, if you don't feel you can/want to do that then don't message him at all. It really is doing you no favours at all.
I hope you understand where I'm coming from, I'm not trying to be harsh, I just want you to get what you need from him.

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 13:36

I'm actually surprised his dad hasn't been round. A few years ago we had a big barney and went to his dad's, his dad came round to check on me and our then only child and I suspect had strong words with him because he came back with a different attitude.

I'm in no state to go to his dad's myself though it's quite some distance

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 13:38

Purple I can't disagree, you are very right.

I've more or less reached the same conclusion which is why I sent that last message, being calm and reasonable. I won't send anything else now until I hear back, if I do.

Adsy1988 · 22/11/2019 13:54

I'm really sorry for what you're going through. He's a coward, burying his head in the sand, hoping that you will go away.

Is there no friends or family nearby that you can get help/childcare from?

purpleboy · 22/11/2019 13:54

Stay strong, you can do it. Every time you want to tell him he is a wanker do it on here. Do not give him the satisfaction of knowing you are thinking of him. Focus on a nice weekend with you Dcs take your mind of dickhead and if he text you, ignore the urge to respond immediately, take your time to think of a measured response.

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 14:09

Two relatives locally and neither are candidates for childcare unfortunately.

No local friends either aside old work mates who i don't see much of.

I'm closest to my mum but she likes the drink so can be unreliable

Ritascornershop · 22/11/2019 14:11

Just read the thread. What a nightmare, Why do they always bang on about “Hope you find the happiness you deserve”? As if their hopes for your future somehow absolve them.

I know this is awful, but it’ll come to be such a relief he’s gone. Each day is a bit further from the initial shock. I hope you’re able to get some sleep tonight.

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 14:16

Thank you rita, love the name btw

I'm going to the chemist across the way to get some sominex, desperate measures and all that. If I have many more nights like last night I'll end up even more poorly.

I need to give myself a shake and focus on my health and not that prick

Ritascornershop · 22/11/2019 14:24

I’ve been through it and the kids and tea and Corrie got me through.

Don’t be too hard on yourself, it’s a very difficult time and your reactions will be strong. Grief and confusion and anger and contempt and sadness. But you’ll get through it. It’s sadly common, it just doesn’t seem like it as people don’t speak of it.

I hope you can get some sleep tonight.

hellsbellsmelons · 22/11/2019 14:25

That's a very reasonable text.
Sominex will help, hopefully!
Can you get some anti-sickness meds while you are out?
I wanna find him and punch his fucking lights out for you.
Raging on your behalf.

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 14:35

Back now but forgot anything for the sickness, bloody brain isn't working properly today.

I had two oranges an hour ago and have brought them back up now, alongside the weak juice I've been drinking to rehydrate myself.

I've never felt physically ill from a breakup before what the hell is this

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 15:01

I'm actually wondering if it's to do with the Chinese takeaway I had in the evening before he left. Surely being dumped doesn't make you sick up everything in your but and erm, 'evacuate' your entire system.. does it? Confused

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 15:02

Gut not but **

IWorkAtTheCheescakeFactory · 22/11/2019 15:04

Oh OP.

Sad

Well he’s showing you exactly who he is. He can see how distraught you are in those texts and still can’t be decent enough to reassure you. I agree with others that you should stop texting him now and just assume he isn’t going to be in touch.

What I would do in your shoes is fill in the CMS application.

I would consider the £200 as a rent contribution and not child support. You did tell him you expected a rent contribution and this money arrived so treat it as that. When filling in the child support Forms don’t include the £200 on it. As far as you’re concerned it’s rent.

Then apply for whatever benefits you’ll Be entitled to. I’m thinking universal credit?

Get his name off any bills/credit cards etc.

Sell all his Xmas presents and use the money for the DC.

Also I would contact homestart if there is one in your area and ask for support. They can offer someone to come out a few days a week and help with the Dc.

IWorkAtTheCheescakeFactory · 22/11/2019 15:06

Surely being dumped doesn't make you sick up everything in your but and erm, 'evacuate' your entire system.. does it?

It could do. You’ve had a real proper shock and that has a physical impact on lots of people. People can be sick with stress or anxiety or shock.

IWorkAtTheCheescakeFactory · 22/11/2019 15:08

If you can remember the name of the friend request woman, set up a fake FB account and search for her from that account. My guess is he has got in touch with her after you told him about the request and made up some rubbish about why she shouldn’t be friends with you so she has blocked you. You may find her using a fake account.

hellsbellsmelons · 22/11/2019 15:10

Of course it does Lumpy.
Your system is in shock.
It has a real physical impact. People don't realise it until they go through it.

This isn't just a case of being dumped!
Your whole life has been turned upside down.
You have no idea if he will step up (he won't) or what you will do.
I was sick, couldn't keep anything down.
Eventually it starts to 'stick'!
But it takes a while.
Your body is currently running on adrenalin and that will get you through for a while!

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 15:16

I'm really surprised, I never imagined such a strong physical reaction was possible. I bet he'd be proud if he knew what he had managed to do to me. The poor kids look lost, baby has been in the bouncer chair most the day and older son keeps going to the window and that's making me.cry.

Cheesecake I did kinda what you mentioned, except I went on my old deactivated fb account, went to the mutual friends page and her friend list, scrolled through that on my old account just incase I had been blocked on my main one. There was no sign of the same profile picture anywhere on the mutual friends friend list. Very strange indeed.

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