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DP gone awol again, he's cheating isn't he? Please help me gain clarify

542 replies

Tisverycold · 14/11/2019 15:53

I need some advice because I feel very confused. I feel as though he is deliberately trying to play mind games.

My partner of several years with whom I have children with has been behaving strangely for the past 6-8 weeks. I had a thread here in relationships, you might recognise some details.

Three times in the space of a fortnight he said he was leaving me and then changed his mind saying he was just confused. He has been more than 6 hours late home on several occasions, explaining it away as overtime.

After the second time I demanded to know what the hell was going on, suspecting there was an OW involved but still somewhat in denial and confused.

He said he wanted to talk to me properly and make it work, during the "talk" he told me that many years before we met an ex had contacted him and disclosed that she had given birth to a baby, stillborn. He told me that he had no idea about the pregnancy and she had hidden it from him, contacting him two years after they broke up to tell him - long after she'd had the baby. He said this ex took him to an unmarked grave and said that's where the baby was buried, and that the baby wasn't named.

Obviously I was devastated for him, but confused why that would leave him doubting our relationship.

However, some things weren't adding up. It's relevant to include that (he said) the ex was a habitual liar and took drugs alot and was dishonest, his words.

The relationship ended, to his knowledge she wasn't pregnant, then she contacts him years later out of the blue to disclose the stillbirth and wanted to meet him to take him to an unmarked grave.

The cynic in me had doubts, as far as the ex was concerned. I will admit there was an air of disbelief. Why would she hide the pregnancy and stillbirth then contact him later on down the line? I questioned whether it was a lie, to be honest.

Me being the soft touch I am, believing that the suppressed grief had surfaced and that he was struggling with his mental health, I urged him to speak to a GP. He assured me he didn't need to and he would be ok. He seemed fine, no obvious signs of mental health problems.

A few weeks pass and we are getting on just fine, then today he's 6+ hours late from work again. He works nights and was supposed to be home at 10am this morning.

I'm texting him all day, worried. Eventually he responds at 3pm saying "for your information I made an appointment to speak to a doctor about feeling depressed, like you advised. I'm taking your advice"

I ask why he didn't tell me, and where has he been all day. He replies avoiding the question but says he has been on his own "just thinking about everything" us, money, the kids.

He's still not home and I'm ashamed to say I'm on the verge of telling him to post his keys and stay away. I can't do this anymore.

He has lied before, I don't trust him. It feels like the stillborn story was given to explain away his strange behaviour before, out of the blue, and the doctors story today is an excuse for being awol again.

His doctor doesn't do same day appointments. He wouldn't even go to the dentist after suffering from terrible toothache for months so I really don't believe it.

He's cheating isn't he? Using mental health and other things to make me second guess myself.

OP posts:
Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 11:11

I've done a calculation based on 2k per month and it has come back with £320 So he's ripping me off already not surprisingly

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 11:14

Thank you blue, yes it's definitely vindicating to know for sure that I was right all along and my instinct was spot on

I do plan to doorstep him at work I just don't know when he's going to be there, he does nights in a large chain and his days vary from week to week (apparently)

The stress of this has already taken it's toll on my already crap health. I've been sick today and have a very upset stomach.

Bastard of a man

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 11:15

Can anybody offer their take on why he's deliberately ignoring me? Is this punishment for me telling him what he is yesterday? It's driving me to distraction.

My eldest has been so upset today I think he's picked up on something being wrong Sad

category12 · 22/11/2019 11:21

Cowardice.

AspiringAmazon · 22/11/2019 11:22

@Lumpybumps1 Maybe this is him burying his head in the sand hoping that the storm will magically blow over. From what you’ve written about the way he reacts when faced with confrontation and uncomfortable talks/truths, it seems par for the course.

Boltyarocket · 22/11/2019 11:31

Stop chasing. Go radio silent on him. No more texts chastising him for doing this to you. He doesn't care because he's a dick.

Right now he's got all the power as you're dangling on the end of a string. If he thinks that you're a broken shell of a person after he's left then this confirms in his mind that he was right to cheat and leave you.

Take your power back. Pick yourself up and get on with your life. Let him contact you about the kids. Keep communication strictly child focused. It's time you detached from him. Google surviving infidelity and doing the 180. Honestly, it does help. Get maintenance through official channels.

You will get through this, you are better than him. Take care

Ruby666 · 22/11/2019 11:32

Are you able to afford your rent OP? If his name is on the tenancy he’s liable to pay half.

Your handling this better than I would, id be waiting outside his work for him demanding answers.

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 11:33

Yes to both of the above. He is a coward and he doesn't do confrontation, his default response in the face of difficulty is to hide from it.

I've changed my tone slightly, saying I'm prepared to be reasonable if he will communicate with me about the children.

Still nothing.

I don't think I can manage a week of this, the past 24 hours have been hell on earth with my stress levels. If he is intent on destroying our family then he needs to share the load with the kids.

AFairlyHardAvocado · 22/11/2019 11:33

@Lumpybumps1

Hello my love checking in as promised. He's ignoring you because he's immature and it's easier to run away than it is to talk. I don't even think he's punishing you - he's just a coward. You poor thing. Did you manage to get any sleep at all? Try to eat something, doesn't matter if it's crap food today just something. And don't forget to drink water I remember forgetting simple things like that in shock and it made me even more shaky. Thinking of you xxx

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 11:34

I will look into surviving infidelity and the 180, thank you.

Yes I can afford the rent, just, but paying it single handedly is going to leave me virtually broke and that's not what I need especially at Christmas Sad

Ruby666 · 22/11/2019 11:35

Also he’s ignoring you because it’s easier to not face you, he probably is trying to mentally excuse what he’s done and out of sight out of mind.

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 11:37

Hello Avocado thanks for popping in, I managed a couple of broken hours of sleep but that's more than I expected so it's something!

Currently sat eating a bar of dairy milk and having a sweet tea. I've lost the contents of my stomach this morning so trying to nibble on what I can manage.

I'm slowly edging toward my panic being replaced with anger, I think. Though I know the cycle will continue to change I just don't want to be bloody sad.

Argh he really is the scum of the earth

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 11:39

Oh the tenancy is in my name only, so "legally" he's not obliged to pay anything which I'm sure he's thrilled about

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 11:42

I'm seething that he's palmed me off with 200 after leeching off me for the past 6 weeks and not contributing to rent or any of the children's Xmas presents which I have bought.

Meanwhile the overgrown baby will be having a fab time with his bit on the side, probably taking her to a restraunt or going round the pubs.

I told him yesterday through text that if I ever see him down the street I will spit at him, not my finest hour but nothing less than he deserves i think.

AFairlyHardAvocado · 22/11/2019 11:49

I'm slowly edging toward my panic being replaced with anger, I think. Though I know the cycle will continue to change I just don't want to be bloody sad.

Just about to go into a meeting but wanted to say use the angry times to get shit done!! Like you say you don't know when sad will hit and the angry days are the ones where you feel determined to look after yourself and sort out admin etc. And fuck off things you don't absolutely have to do. The house can be messier than usual for a couple of weeks - don't forget stuff like that, prioritise the vital things on angry days xxx

category12 · 22/11/2019 11:52

On the bright side, he can't just swan back in, you can legally keep him out, and you don't have to deal with trying to get him off the tenancy or the possibility of having to find another place to live.

You could start a CMS claim.

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 12:21

I need to take his presents out of the present pile and get rid accordingly. He has a brand new phone wrapped up ready for Christmas day. What a fucking mug I am. That can be sold and the proceeds spent on something nice for the children I think

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 12:22

Contacted CM and I have a claim pack being sent out in the post. Progress

Ruby666 · 22/11/2019 12:37

Yes take back everything you can that you was gonna give him and if you can’t take it back sell it, you and the kids deserve something nice. Has he got all his clothes ect?

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 12:39

From what I can tell he left with one small rucksack. Most of his clothes are still here along with his games console, trophies, big storage box of personal effects.

My guess is he's gone clothes shopping rather than have to deal with me and get his stuff

hellsbellsmelons · 22/11/2019 12:41

Put it all outside. Bag and box it up and put it outside.
Anything that you can sell, do it!
His games console you can sell.
The rest, tell him it's outside and if he doesn't get it today then it's going to the tip.

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 12:49

I've bagged up everything that I could find and slung it all in the cupboard, I was actually going to sell the console yesterday but chickened out incase he then used that as a further excuse to fuck the kids off. He is that pathetic.

I'm throwing up everything in my stomach. I've never been physically ill from a break up in my life. This is ghastly Sad

YouJustDoYou · 22/11/2019 12:49

Cheating men are fucking cowards. Same old script, same old shit. I'm sorry this is happening to you op, you're well rid of that piece of shit though. Do you know about the Gingerbread website? It's got loads of great advice for single parents.

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 12:51

What I want from him right now is his word that he's going to share the childcare fairly and do his bit for the children. That is my biggest fear at the moment, him leaving it all to me.

In my current health I just can't manage 24-7 singlehandedly and he knows this. He is truly selfish

Lumpybumps1 · 22/11/2019 12:52

Haven't heard of the gingerbread website before no so I'll take a look thank you