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DP making me feel creeped out

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Phoebesfleas · 14/11/2019 12:58

DP and I have been together for nearly 5 years, I won’t go into too much detail about our lives because they would be quite outing. We don’t live together, he’s emotionally unavailable and never wants to settle or marry and I have a huge responsibility which makes committing to a serious relationship very difficult.
DP had a bad accident in his teens, he missed out on a lot of late teen life due to his recovery and loss of confidence. He feels he has missed out on meeting girls/sex/a teen relationship. This has affected him quite a lot and he is sometimes bitter, usually after too much to drink.
He often makes sexual ‘jokes’ about teen girls, virgins, young breasts, tight vaginas that haven’t been ruined by having babies etc, these ‘jokes’ have always made me feel uncomfortable, he will choose to watch films with teenage girls in and I’ve seen him gawp at very young women. I understand that young women are attractive to men, I don’t have any jealousy issues but something about these jokes make me feel deeply uncomfortable and a squirmy feeling in my belly. I’ve asked him to stop making ‘jokes’ as it makes me uncomfortable, he says I’m jealous of these young women because I’m not young anymore. I do not have any issues with getting older, overall I’m happy with myself. I know he has had issues with porn in the past, I don’t think he does now. His attitude is almost incel like, women over a certain age hold no value and are ‘ruined’ if they have had children. I know that he has tried to get close to an older teen neighbour of his in the past. He has also made ‘jokes’ about my young adult DD, he said that all men think like him but know it’s a taboo subject.
He said something last night that made me cringe and I want to know if it’s me being a prude.
For the record I’ve dated a lot in the past and have never come across a man in his late 30’s having this attitude.
I want to end the relationship over this but don’t know if it’s my problem or his.
Please tell me your opinions.

OP posts:
StillLearningDad · 14/11/2019 14:09

I'm a guy in my 40s and I also didn't manage to date in my teens. Just wanted to echo previous posters: it's not true at all that all men secretly want teenage girls. My wife is my age and she is wonderful and there's no way I'd be interested in a teenager instead - it would feel really weird and creepy. Hope you can leave this guy without the fallout being nasty.

WestSideSnorey · 14/11/2019 14:10

He sounds really creepy OP so it's hardly surprising that he's creeping you out.

While I don't agree at all that he sounds like a paedophile as there isn't any suggestion that he is interested in pre-pubescent children, it does sound like he has an unhealthy interest in young women and girls. The fact that it is so normalised to him (everyone is like that but it's taboo? Err no mate) and that he also enjoys "rape porn" (for want of a better phrase) would be hugely concerning for me and honestly I'd be a bit worried that he could progress to being dangerous although of course he may not at all but I'd still worry about it.

Honestly, I'd leave and I'd explain exactly why. He isn't being a hero by being so open and honest about his sexuality, if he understands it then I'm sure there must be some kind of help or therapy that he can get to make him realise that it's not right.

Phoebesfleas · 14/11/2019 14:12

FizzyGreenWater he completely denied the comment he made about my DD the next day, he has denied a lot of things that I know I heard but have questioned myself over and over again due to his denial, I even started thinking that I’d misheard sometimes. But now I know I didn’t. I’m very angry with myself.

OP posts:
Ilovethekitties · 14/11/2019 14:13

Westside, he talks about 13 year olds. If he were to molest one, he would be a peadophile in your books?

Ilovethekitties · 14/11/2019 14:13

Wouldn't*

messolini9 · 14/11/2019 14:14

Yes he has a key to my home, I can easily have my locks changed if he doesn’t return it.

Phoebe, please change the locks ANYWAY, whether you get a key back or not?
You don't know if he has already made a copy.

SunshineCake · 14/11/2019 14:14

There has already been a huge sniff involving your daughter.

Dump.

Eckhart · 14/11/2019 14:16

@Phoebesfleas Please don't be angry with yourself. He's been gaslighting you. It happens to millions of people, who never see through it and doubt themselves forever. Congratulate yourself on working out what's really going on, despite his lies, and move on with your head held high.

SirVixofVixHall · 14/11/2019 14:16

How have you lasted five years with such a man ? He has been gaslighting you. I am so glad that you are getting rid of him.

AfterSomeAdvice1234 · 14/11/2019 14:16

Grim. LTB

FizzyGreenWater · 14/11/2019 14:21

Then there's your answer. He has totally fucked with your head. You know what you heard!

What are his filthy comments involving the children whose bedrooms he can see? I would seriously report him if I possibly could. Building pictures of which local men are potential predators in this way is useful to the police even if they cannot take action. And if he's admitted to you that he has been watching these children then yes it's something to report.

RockinHippy · 14/11/2019 14:21

Christ in a bike, why are you with this poor excuse of a human.Confused

Do you lust after teenage boys & obsess over missed out sexual opportunities as a teen. No, of course you don't. He is using it as excuse to justify some very unhealthy & predatory behaviour.

FFS get rid

Gruzinkerbell1 · 14/11/2019 14:23

He is utterly revolting. 13 year old girls! And your own daughter! Get this revolting specimen out of your life, today.

FairiesontheSwing · 14/11/2019 14:26

Oh my god he is gross and dangerous.

Have you ever looked at the Freedom Programme?

NameChange84 · 14/11/2019 14:26

@WestSideSnorey what do you call a man who is sexually interested in 13 year old girls, pervs on them in their bedrooms, makes comments about wanting to have sex with them?

RockinHippy · 14/11/2019 14:27

Oh & the last time I heard of a friends DP so openly sexualising teen girls & with imaginary baggage causing such a disgusting attitude & to women in general. He was arrested & prosecuted for multiple rapes

Sandals19 · 14/11/2019 14:28

The accident/missing out on his youth/20d thing is an excuse.

It's not the reason, he's just like this.

Sandals19 · 14/11/2019 14:28

*20s

Bluntness100 · 14/11/2019 14:35

I'm sorry op this man has had you questioning your own morals to the extent you even need to confirm it on here.

It's not normal no. It's far from normal. And yes you need to end it. Not least because of his tendencies towards young girls, but also the way he abases you. No human should have to put up with that.

Get rid of him, have a shower and wash him away, give yourself a good scrub and remove any memory of this pervert.

WestSideSnorey · 14/11/2019 14:38

what do you call a man who is sexually interested in 13 year old girls, pervs on them in their bedrooms, makes comments about wanting to have sex with them?

@NameChange84 I call them a pervert, a creep, a predator, a sicko, dangerous, wrong, disturbed etc if I have to label them.
When on a forum commenting on a subject as serious as this, while giving opinions I do try to stick with the facts as we know them. Could this guy be a pedo? Of course. But there isn't any suggestion in anything that OP has written that this is the case.

I don't know if you missed it in the thread but OP did in fact state the following - All the comments are made about girls from the age of 13 or so. Girls that have started puberty. which is not what a pedo would be interested in.

GingerKittenCat · 14/11/2019 14:43

Most men will oggle young girls (as in older teens/early 20's) but normal men simply see them as something nice to look at. Then they remind themselves that they are adults and can't be bothered with all the drama that goes along with teenagers and they are better sticking with a grown woman. They certainly don't vocalise their perversions, especially not to their partner.
At the very least his attitude to women is incredibly disrespectful. At worst he's possibly sexually deviant and dangerous.
Don't walk away from him.
Run as fast as you can.
Cut him off and have no further contact with him.
This sort of man will leech your self esteem with his comments about females and the way he regards women as meat for his pleasure rather than people with their own value.

Eckhart · 14/11/2019 14:48

@GingerKittenCat 'Most men will ogle young girls and then realise they can't be bothered with the drama' is a very very offensive comment to make.

Phoebesfleas · 14/11/2019 14:49

I think it is an excuse, he uses his accident as an excuse for everything including drinking too much.
He is socially very awkward and has only had one relationship before I met him that lasted 14 months and was long distance. He has had quite a few one night stands which I believe he tried to pursue but the women were not interested. Can a man give off a creepy vibe that women with better boundaries than me can sense and therefore steer clear? I’ve never been able to understand his lack of experience because he is a very good looking man who is absolutely charming when you first meet him.
I don’t know if he has been looking in the neighbours DC’s windows, I noticed that their rooms were clearly visible and it made me feel very uncomfortable.
The lack of experience is not an excuse as many of you have pointed out, there’s something very wrong with him. When I first heard about incels I immediately thought of him and how he thinks regarding women.
His things are packed and I’m taking them over tomorrow morning whilst he is at work, we have no plans to meet until the weekend so I can end it by text tomorrow. I don’t believe he is a danger towards me and he will hand my key back because he has no physically violent/stalker tendencies just a vile mouth. I’ve realised he plays the victim a lot.

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Sunflowersok · 14/11/2019 14:51

What on earth have I just read? Disgusting P.O.S, get that dirty prick far away from you and your family as soon as possible OP

NameChange84 · 14/11/2019 14:52

Can a man give off a creepy vibe that women with better boundaries than me can sense and therefore steer clear?

Yes. I used to let them in. Now I get rid as soon as the red flags appear.