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Am I being too hard on him?

125 replies

Lifemong · 04/10/2019 22:15

Hello all, would like some thoughts on my situation if its possible as I dont know if what I'm doing is right.

I have been with my OH for 6 years. We have had some major ups and major downs. I can only explain his personality as something I have never experienced before. He is a very kind hearted calm and quiet man. He lives a clean life. We are different nationalities and had quite different upbringing, me being English and he Spanish.

He has always had very high opinions of himself and that no one on this earth is better than him, he makes harsh critics and comments about other peoples lives. I on the other hand am a warm and sensitive soul and I also question alot.

We broke up for a short while last year, the reason i left him was because i found him talking to another woman online whilst i was in hospital as I lost my pregnancy. It 3 months of sleeping in the other room to decide this relationship wasnt for me due to ALL of the above. He came back to me and promised change and how he could not see his life without me. We got back together, I noticed some changes in terms of bring more with me but recently his ways have started slipping again. He is not the type to be cheating again and after what happened I have full access to his online life.

Like I said above he is very stick in his ways and everything we seems to do is about him, his activities, his family etc... when it comes to doing my things he isn't around because they dont interest him. He is an adrenaline junkie so going for a meal or a day at the beach would bore him to death.

Recently my family came to stay and he did everything he possibly could to avoid us, no conversation with them etc.. didn't want to do anything we were doing. Then he wanted to bring his brother and his child to the house to stay over. I said it was going to be too much with 7 people already staying in a small flat. He flat out refused and said I was being dramatic and really his intentions were not bad he just wanted us all go be together. I had planned a day out for us all to be together and there really was no reason that his family needed to come and stay. They come over all the time and stay with us. I told him it was my family time and that was it. He hit the roof and caused all kind of problems in front of my family.

A couple of weeks on and were still not on talking terms. I have started to analyse the relationship in full again instead of just going with the flow of daily life. I have told him we are very different people and seems to be having the same argument over and over again, different subject same outcome. I dont feel heard or respected by him. If I'm upset about something he will normally give s harsh answer and say forget about it.

Tonight it's really come to ahead and after 2 weeks he just wants to hug it out and move on. He has commented that his opinions are high and does say harsh comments and he will try to think before he speaks from now on but for me it almost feels like it's not enough. Been there got the shirt kind of feeling. I need to see actions but is actions are a hug and I just dont want it right now. I have told him this has damaged us yet again and I feel I would be better off alone than keep what I feel is a struggle to be heard. I also dont want to change the guy if thats how he is hard/cold then that's who he is and were just not meant to be. I dont want him walking around on eggshells watching every word he says.

He has told me tonight that I'm stupid and that I think about everything too deep and I've gone so cold on him but thats it hes got nothing more to say.

Now I'm wondering if I'm being too harsh on this guy or let him walk out of my life and he cant be free of me.

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Am I being too hard on him?

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Hello all, would like some thoughts on my situation if its possible as I dont know if what I'm doing is right.

I have been with my OH for 6 years. We have had some major ups and major downs. I can only explain his personality as something I have never experienced before. He is a very kind hearted calm and quiet man. He lives a clean life. We are different nationalities and had quite different upbringing, me being English and he Spanish.

He has always had very high opinions of himself and that no one on this earth is better than him, he makes harsh critics and comments about other peoples lives. I on the other hand am a warm and sensitive soul and I also question alot.

We broke up for a short while last year, the reason i left him was because i found him talking to another woman online whilst i was in hospital as I lost my pregnancy. It 3 months of sleeping in the other room to decide this relationship wasnt for me due to ALL of the above. He came back to me and promised change and how he could not see his life without me. We got back together, I noticed some changes in terms of bring more with me but recently his ways have started slipping again. He is not the type to be cheating again and after what happened I have full access to his online life.

Like I said above he is very stick in his ways and everything we seems to do is about him, his activities, his family etc... when it comes to doing my things he isn't around because they dont interest him. He is an adrenaline junkie so going for a meal or a day at the beach would bore him to death.

Recently my family came to stay and he did everything he possibly could to avoid us, no conversation with them etc.. didn't want to do anything we were doing. Then he wanted to bring his brother and his child to the house to stay over. I said it was going to be too much with 7 people already staying in a small flat. He flat out refused and said I was being dramatic and really his intentions were not bad he just wanted us all go be together. I had planned a day out for us all to be together and there really was no reason that his family needed to come and stay. They come over all the time and stay with us. I told him it was my family time and that was it. He hit the roof and caused all kind of problems in front of my family.

A couple of weeks on and were still not on talking terms. I have started to analyse the relationship in full again instead of just going with the flow of daily life. I have told him we are very different people and seems to be having the same argument over and over again, different subject same outcome. I dont feel heard or respected by him. If I'm upset about something he will normally give s harsh answer and say forget about it.

Tonight it's really come to ahead and after 2 weeks he just wants to hug it out and move on. He has commented that his opinions are high and does say harsh comments and he will try to think before he speaks from now on but for me it almost feels like it's not enough. Been there got the shirt kind of feeling. I need to see actions but is actions are a hug and I just dont want it right now. I have told him this has damaged us yet again and I feel I would be better off alone than keep what I feel is a struggle to be heard. I also dont want to change the guy if thats how he is hard/cold then that's who he is and were just not meant to be. I dont want him walking around on eggshells watching every word he says.

He has told me tonight that I'm stupid and that I think about everything too deep and I've gone so cold on him but thats it hes got nothing more to say.

Now I'm wondering if I'm being too harsh on this guy or let him walk out of my life and he cant be free of me.

OP posts:
billy1966 · 11/10/2019 15:22

Oh please, he can see his easy ride in life drifting away.

Bin it and move on. Waster.

Lifemong · 11/10/2019 15:26

There you have it..

OP posts:
Lifemong · 11/10/2019 15:33

I am not defending him, He calls me a "Guiri" its just a little family joke. There is no harm in this promise.

OP posts:
jaffacakesaremyfave · 11/10/2019 15:59

He's just listing things you do for him with a few generic compliments here and there. He quickly goes on to list all of the things he doesn't like about you. Charming Hmm

We can't tell you what to do OP but if that load of tosh is enough to win you back and make you forget how horribly he treated you when you were at your most vulnerable then you really need to work on your self esteem.

All abusive men lay on the charm when they want to win you back. Trust me though, you'll be going back to more of the same abuse you posted about. Men like this don't change but sadly it takes us many wasted years to realise this.

FatArse123 · 11/10/2019 16:03

I used to go out with a man like this, OP. I'm so happy he dumped me, because now I have a partner with whom I share love and mutual respect. You can do it.

Gemma1971 · 11/10/2019 16:03

No apology for the attempted cheating or not supporting you during your trauma.

It's word salad... some of it sounds nice, but it just sounds like he hasn't got a clue about you.

TBH, I would not have bothered asking him after he tried to cheat.. and did not love you through your miscarriage.

But then, like you, I made the gross error of taking someone back who was ALL about himself.

He wrote word salad emails too..... it is all meaningless.. ACTIONS count. Where was the fucker when you needed him?

Windygate · 11/10/2019 16:57

Lifemong where is your self respect? Your not ready to leave this abusive cocklodger and until you are the is nothing anyone can do.

MyCatHatesEverybody · 11/10/2019 17:23

OMFG talk about verbal diarrhoea.

He treats you like dirt. What does it matter what he says?

BendyLikeBeckham · 11/10/2019 17:39

you clean, etc. Hmm

He doesn't like you arguing or having an opinion contrary to his. He likes your cooking and housewifery. You have some nice memories doing things he wanted to do. He might as well stay with you because you are familiar and bake good cakes.

Just Shock

crimsonlake · 11/10/2019 17:50

My recommendation? Give up. Give up the soul searching, the explaining, the questioning and compromising. Just fuck that noise.
I agree with Gemma 1971.
What I do not understand as a seemingly thoughtful, intelligent woman why have you let it go on so long? He has been emotionally and financially abusing you?
What is there to miss and what on earth did you ever see in him in the first place?

NettleTea · 11/10/2019 18:06

yup loads about how you make him feel nice and do stuff for him.

Its so generic it could have been written about anyone to be honest.

and then loads about how if you would just shut up about bad stuff he did in the past, shut up about criticising anything in the future, and shag him, life would be really happy for both of you

Gemma1971 · 11/10/2019 18:36

This, for me, overrides everything else:

"We broke up for a short while last year, the reason i left him was because i found him talking to another woman online whilst i was in hospital as I lost my pregnancy."

I forgave my ex for many things. Mainly I really enjoyed sex with him and he was a fab cook. But I should have forgiven and moved on.

What your bf did to you says a great deal about his character and it isn't good.

All the letters in the world and rationalising would not make up for that.

I tried to forget similar stuff AND his deliberate cruelties. In the end, I left him because no matter what he said, in the end, he always let me down and hurt me.

Don't be like me. I have been there and life is way too short.

Lifemong · 11/10/2019 18:44

To be completely honest I didn't think he would finally write the letter and i was happy at that and then he did so i suppose i have to read it as I have asked for it. It hasn't moved me because I've head it all before. Many times infact. Different times he has let me down like when I had to have my knee operation and we had planned an activity holiday hiking but the doc told me I had to get the knee OP first. He wouldn't change the dates as he didn't want to let his friends down. I cried and cried and off he still went leaving me hoping around on crutches at home.

I cant forget the past and hes right it's not fair I keep putting it his face over and over but we never learn.

I've told him his letter has not moved me at all and I'm sure now he is angry with me like he said he would be if I made him to that only to reject him.

The reason I've stayed so long? Probably familiarity, probably the face I've moved around so much in my life I just wanted to put some roots in the ground. Well non of that matters anymore I can leave this relationship knowing I really tried, I am not perfect, I dont want perfect but I do want compatibility and respect.

OP posts:
BendyLikeBeckham · 11/10/2019 18:49

good for you.

crimsonlake · 11/10/2019 22:54

I watched Anna Karenina recently and your angst reminds me of her.
Besides that how could you stay with a person who has let you down so badly, that is not love.

Lifemong · 15/10/2019 22:36

Just to let you know I finished it with him, lifes too short. Sick of his wanker ways.
No matter how much you think you love them, not matter how much they say they will change, no matter how much you feel sorry for them. Look out for number one if your not getting your needs met.

I changed the locks and all his things ready for him to collect. Of course he never thought anything like this could happen to him and he cried. I felt nothing.

Thank you so much for all of your input from the bottom of my heart and I could not have done this without you. No one knew the full situation but you all knew his type of character and without your thoughts I would still be sitting here thinking I was going mad.

#freedom

OP posts:
category12 · 15/10/2019 22:43

Well done OP. Flowers

NettleTea · 15/10/2019 23:08

oh this is wonderful. well done OP you are really strong to have done that, I can tell from your thread that it took a huge deal to find the strength to do it after him wearing you down so much.
welcome to your new life xxx

Techway · 16/10/2019 16:17

Well done, you may cycle through different emotions. Sadness is natural as you will grieve for what could have been. I found it useful to have a list of my phone of his behaviours as a reminder as it is easy to reflect on the happier times. There is always happy times even in the most unhealthy relationships but it is how a partner handles the bad times or conflict that is the real test.

Interestedwoman · 16/10/2019 16:56

Well done. Wishing you all the best. xxxxx

madcatladyforever · 16/10/2019 17:01

I'm sorry I dot know why you are with him. He sounds awful. He will be even more bored when you have a baby.
I'd be off.

Embracelife · 16/10/2019 17:05

Get rid.
Of course he won't leave easily it s nice for him.
It isnt nice for you
Get tough

amiapropermum · 16/10/2019 19:11

Well done, OP! Flowers 💪

Lunde · 16/10/2019 19:39

Well done

Hghyfffhj · 16/10/2019 20:44

So relieved to read your update and glad you didn't give him as much time to shift his stuff out as you first planned to- he never would have gone! Don't ever feel you have been to hard on him in feeling no emotion towards the end, he did a lot of things to you that you kept buried for a long time. You have definitely made the right decision. You never would have been able to move forward with him. Now you are free to be on your own or find somebody worth your time and efforts. Good choice xxxx

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