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WWYD? Honest opinions!

88 replies

Imtrying2 · 15/09/2019 09:32

Ok this may be long so bare with...
Me and H have been together 17 years, married 8 years 2 beautiful boys. We were teenage sweethearts, and I loved him so much. He was sweet in the sense of he would send me flowers, we’d go on dates, make a huge effort for birthdays (with help from my mum) you get the idea. 12 years ago we bought a house, our first house together, very excited, couple of months in the house he proposed. 4 years later we married. Since we’ve been married it was like he didn’t need to make the effort anymore. Everything took a nose dive really, even to the point where he just didn’t bother with my birthdays at all, not even a card, and at least 2 years in a row broke my heart by not even muttering the words happy birthday to me. That hurt. He always said it wouldn’t happen again but it did. Add to this, my mum and step dad paid for a lovely honeymoon to the Lake District for us because they knew we couldn’t afford one ourselves. I was over the moon with it, so grateful and he made out like he was. We got there first day and everything was great lovely place. Until the night (let me just throw in now that he smokes weed, didn’t take any with us and relies on it for sleep otherwise he cant) his mood changed, he was cranky, didn’t want to do anything, then early hours as I was trying to go to sleep he said he wanted to go home, that he thought it was boring and that we’d be bored out of a our brains. I spent the whole night sobbing, thinking how much my mum would be upset etc. Eventually I gave in, I’d have rather go home than stay there miserable for another 4 days. I was gutted. So was my mum. But tried to make out as if I didn’t like it either so he didn’t look as bad. I forgave him for this.

When I was pregnant with DS2 I ended up having to decorate his room by myself heavily pregnant cos he just sat around saying there was no rush, to me there was. This resulted in him falling out with my mum for 4 years cos she wasn’t happy with how he was being.

When our babies came along he wasn’t the best dad, he didn’t do nappy changes, feeds etc he helped make and sterilise bottles but that was about it. Even when our 2nd DS was a nightmare baby who screamed solidly for 5 months he would never take over from me to give me a break.

Team all that with him never wanting to do anything as a family, hating and ruining our first family holiday and not wanting to take our son to his football training( H loves football) things like u can build an idea of what sort of dad he is.

So the last few years I’ve been in and off with depression, and I’ve always put it down to all of that, never feeling loved and appreciated. When I’m depressed I turn to food and that’s led me to gain a lot of weight over the last couple of years. Obviously I get upset with myself about this, and then other things get on top of me and I have a bit of a rant about life in general. Rewind back to January and one day I did this, I had a rant cos I was feeling down about myself and hated myself, couldn’t lose weight, thought I was shit at my job etc. Instead of getting support I get a complete meltdown from him, he can’t help me it’s all his fault I’m this way blah blah and the short of it is we are still here trying to work something out now.

9 months of hell, deciding wether to stay or go cos I can’t take anymore and I still can’t seem to fully make the decision. Every time I say I’m leaving he tried to talk me out of it, saying he’s changing his attitude and we can work it out. The truth is I’m not sure I can put all of it behind me and move on, I don’t think I ever got over how he treated me, it still makes me angry. I feel like if I stay it’ll end up happening again at some point cos a leopard never changes its spots! He wants a lazy laid back life not doing anything, I want to go out with the kids and live before they grow up. But something is stopping me. I just don’t know what. I don’t even know if I love him anymore, I can’t even work that out. My brains fried 🤯

What would you do if you were me?

OP posts:
CatPunsFreakMeowt · 15/09/2019 09:35

I would leave him. He’s put you through so much and he won’t change.

roseunicornblower · 15/09/2019 09:35

I'd be packing my bags and leaving. You said in January you wanted to leave and he would change but 9 months later nothing still has changed. Could you and the kids go to your mums? Seems like you'll need her support.

Aquamarine1029 · 15/09/2019 09:41

I would leave him. Without question or hesitation. You are miserable in a miserable marriage, to a man who checked out years ago. He only wants you to stay being that's what's easiest for HIM. Please end it. You have decades of life to live, don't waste them.

MakeLemonade · 15/09/2019 09:45

Leave. He sounds dreadful. What would you be staying for? It’s never going to change.

rumred · 15/09/2019 09:48

You give not one reason to stay in this relationship. It looks like a no brainer- get rid and start living

Badolddays · 15/09/2019 09:55

I would leave too.

Hidingtonothing · 15/09/2019 09:59

It's fear stopping you OP, fear of change and the unknown, totally normal and understandable. But there comes a point where the fear doesn't matter, where you're so bloody miserable that the unknown couldn't possibly be worse than what you're living and I think that's probably where you're at.

He's let you (and DC) down massively and repeatedly and even if he did a complete 180 now (which he won't, not for more than 5 minutes anyway) I'm not sure that level of neglect and damage is reparable. Even if he became husband/father of the year would you be able to forgive and forget everything he's put you through? You (well he really) can't get those times back, the times he's left you to cope alone with a screaming baby, the holidays he's ruined, the awkwardness of his fall outs with your DM, it's done now and you wouldn't be human if you didn't feel resentful.

It might be worth talking this through with a counsellor if that's an option for you, it would help clarify your feelings and what you want to do about them. Life is short though OP, and DC's childhood is even shorter, don't waste it on a man who drags you all down Flowers

TheFaerieQueene · 15/09/2019 10:02

I would pack his bag for him.

Littlechocola · 15/09/2019 10:05

Is this what you want for the rest of your life?

EKGEMS · 15/09/2019 10:06

I'd have left that ungrateful loser after the honeymoon fiasco

AnyFucker · 15/09/2019 10:06

Leave. Only you can change your one and only life.

There is better out there for you, believe me.

chipsandgin · 15/09/2019 10:12

I would leave. It sounds like you are together because you ended up where you are not because you want to be & you are both unhappy. It's a huge thing to do - it's easier to limp along than make the break but if you can find the strength to do it you'll be so much happier in the long run Flowers

chipsandgin · 15/09/2019 10:12

(oh and he sounds like a dick - there are better men out there)

feliciabirthgiver · 15/09/2019 10:19

Give yourself permission to leave OP Thanks

Imtrying2 · 15/09/2019 10:21

He keeps asking me for another chance, keeps saying if I leave I’ll be making a big mistake. That I need to stop thinking about the past and stop letting it anger me. But I can’t help it, I feel like he’s cut me and it’s scarred, like I’ll always be looking out for it to go wrong. Like every holiday or day out I’ll be looking for signs that he’s gonna ruin it. I don’t feel like that will go away. And he keeps saying it will if I want it to, it’s not that easy though is it? Or is it? I’m so stuck, I’m at absolute rock bottom.

OP posts:
Moondancer73 · 15/09/2019 10:21

It's a no brainer in my eyes. He's not going to change and you need to leave - or pack his bags. The fact that he smokes weed plays a big part in this (I've been with someone who smoked and see a lot of similarities). You can do so much better and deserve someone who will support you. Even being alone will be easier to be honest, he hasn't supported you and has no inclination of doing so. Time to move on.

Debrons · 15/09/2019 10:23

It sounds like he’s totally checked out years ago and doesn’t really want to be with you but is too lazy to actually do anything about it. I’ve got friends with partners like that. Lost all respect and no love. You might as well be brave and make that break because be warned, blokes like this end up going off with somebody who shows them the first bit of interest. Protect yourself now. If he can do that to you on your honeymoon then he’s capable of anything. Are you getting counselling? I’m betting your depression will lift the moment you take control back of your life. He’s using you for sex, cleaning, childcare without giving anything back. Can’t even be bothered to say happy birthday? What a shit life. You might as well be on your own and at least have the opportunity to maybe meet somebody who will say happy birthday. Got to be better than being tied to somebody who you know for sure couldn’t give a shit. You deserve better than this. You know that which is why you’re posting on here.

ISmellBabies · 15/09/2019 10:24

I'd leave, no question. He doesn't love or care about you, he's a selfish lazy bastard. The reason he begs you to stay is because you being together makes his life easier and he can't be bothered doing all the household shit and childcare that you usually do on his own.

Aquamarine1029 · 15/09/2019 10:26

He keeps asking me for another chance, keeps saying if I leave I’ll be making a big mistake.

The famous "another chance" ploy, yet surprise, surprise, he does fuck all to help repair your marriage. How want chances are you will I g to give him before you admit it's all utter bullshit? How many more years will pass you by? The only big mistake you can make is to stay in a dead, miserable and unhealthy marriage. That goes for you and your children. Stop being controlled by his gaslighting nonsense.

Aquamarine1029 · 15/09/2019 10:27

*How MANY chances

Winterlife · 15/09/2019 10:29

When he says these things had he followed up his words with actions? Or is that something that will happen in the future?

Winterlife · 15/09/2019 10:31

PS Cannabis oil (cbd) is better for sleep than is pot. One drop is usually enough, and it has fewer side effects. It is prescribed where I live (Canada).

Debrons · 15/09/2019 10:31

Imagine having every other weekend to yourself. To go swimming. To go get fit. To sit in a coffee shop and chat to interesting people who are interested in you. You could sign up to do a course. Go meet lots of lovely fun people doing fun things who see you as a person. You would half your workload. No more cleaning up his shit or cooking for him. You get to call the shots. You get to show your kids that you don’t poke up with people treating you badly in life. You stand up and say no. I deserve better than this. And what big mistake is he talking about? What’s he done since being married to prove at all that he’s trustworthy or capable of making you happy. So what mistake is he referring to? Has he got some massive luxury surprise holiday to Barbados planned to make up for all those missed birthdays and ruined honeymoon? Is that the mistake he means. You’ll miss out on that if you dump him? I am failing to see and I’m racking my brain how a split would at all disadvantage you. It sure as hell would disadvantage him though right? He actually has to get off his weed filled arse and do something. Reckon you should grit your teeth and go “nah mate. You’re alright. I’ll risk the mistake. So just to let you know you need to find somewhere else to live. I’ll be claiming maintenance, filing for divorce (so you need to hire a solicitor) and you’ll be looking after your kids on your own for lots of time per month. Phew you’ve got lots of hard work coming up”

RandomMess · 15/09/2019 10:32

Has he actually made any consistent changes in his behaviour since January?

Actions speak far louder than words...

If he has changed (loads) I would do counselling together but be prepared for it to take you years to forgive him. If he hasn't then end it.

Shodan · 15/09/2019 10:35

Every time I say I’m leaving he tried to talk me out of it, saying he’s changing his attitude

Words are cheap OP. Every time he says he's going to change he's congratulating himself because all he needs to do, to keep you servicing his 'laid-back' lifestyle, is say a few words. 20 seconds or so of 'effort' from him and you're back in line.

He won't change. Deep down, you know this. He doesn't love you the way you deserve to be loved- if he loves you at all (which none of his actions demonstrate tbh) it's because you give him everything he wants and demand nothing in return.

I would be willing to bet that once you're rid of this lazy useless lump your mental well-being will improve drastically, despite the initial emotional rollercoaster. Of course he says you'll be making a big mistake- but it's not a mistake for you, it's a mistake for him.

Please don't waste a second more of your precious life on this man. He's not the person you thought he was. Mourn that, and move on.