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WWYD? Honest opinions!

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Imtrying2 · 15/09/2019 09:32

Ok this may be long so bare with...
Me and H have been together 17 years, married 8 years 2 beautiful boys. We were teenage sweethearts, and I loved him so much. He was sweet in the sense of he would send me flowers, we’d go on dates, make a huge effort for birthdays (with help from my mum) you get the idea. 12 years ago we bought a house, our first house together, very excited, couple of months in the house he proposed. 4 years later we married. Since we’ve been married it was like he didn’t need to make the effort anymore. Everything took a nose dive really, even to the point where he just didn’t bother with my birthdays at all, not even a card, and at least 2 years in a row broke my heart by not even muttering the words happy birthday to me. That hurt. He always said it wouldn’t happen again but it did. Add to this, my mum and step dad paid for a lovely honeymoon to the Lake District for us because they knew we couldn’t afford one ourselves. I was over the moon with it, so grateful and he made out like he was. We got there first day and everything was great lovely place. Until the night (let me just throw in now that he smokes weed, didn’t take any with us and relies on it for sleep otherwise he cant) his mood changed, he was cranky, didn’t want to do anything, then early hours as I was trying to go to sleep he said he wanted to go home, that he thought it was boring and that we’d be bored out of a our brains. I spent the whole night sobbing, thinking how much my mum would be upset etc. Eventually I gave in, I’d have rather go home than stay there miserable for another 4 days. I was gutted. So was my mum. But tried to make out as if I didn’t like it either so he didn’t look as bad. I forgave him for this.

When I was pregnant with DS2 I ended up having to decorate his room by myself heavily pregnant cos he just sat around saying there was no rush, to me there was. This resulted in him falling out with my mum for 4 years cos she wasn’t happy with how he was being.

When our babies came along he wasn’t the best dad, he didn’t do nappy changes, feeds etc he helped make and sterilise bottles but that was about it. Even when our 2nd DS was a nightmare baby who screamed solidly for 5 months he would never take over from me to give me a break.

Team all that with him never wanting to do anything as a family, hating and ruining our first family holiday and not wanting to take our son to his football training( H loves football) things like u can build an idea of what sort of dad he is.

So the last few years I’ve been in and off with depression, and I’ve always put it down to all of that, never feeling loved and appreciated. When I’m depressed I turn to food and that’s led me to gain a lot of weight over the last couple of years. Obviously I get upset with myself about this, and then other things get on top of me and I have a bit of a rant about life in general. Rewind back to January and one day I did this, I had a rant cos I was feeling down about myself and hated myself, couldn’t lose weight, thought I was shit at my job etc. Instead of getting support I get a complete meltdown from him, he can’t help me it’s all his fault I’m this way blah blah and the short of it is we are still here trying to work something out now.

9 months of hell, deciding wether to stay or go cos I can’t take anymore and I still can’t seem to fully make the decision. Every time I say I’m leaving he tried to talk me out of it, saying he’s changing his attitude and we can work it out. The truth is I’m not sure I can put all of it behind me and move on, I don’t think I ever got over how he treated me, it still makes me angry. I feel like if I stay it’ll end up happening again at some point cos a leopard never changes its spots! He wants a lazy laid back life not doing anything, I want to go out with the kids and live before they grow up. But something is stopping me. I just don’t know what. I don’t even know if I love him anymore, I can’t even work that out. My brains fried 🤯

What would you do if you were me?

OP posts:
outherealone · 16/09/2019 16:03

He’s had chances. He’s a cunt. You will feel the weight lift when you leave him. He’s going to play every trick in the book to get you back and you will see the man you fell in love with . Don’t be fooled!

hellsbellsmelons · 16/09/2019 16:16

The fact you have to ask is rather alarming.
Get out of there.
FAST.
Go to your parents for some love and support.
Leave this stoner to his own devices.
He will NEVER EVER change.
He's already proved that to you and still you are waiting for it to happen.
Here's a clue - IT NEVER WILL!!!!!!!
Save yourself and your poor DC from a miserable life!

CIareIsland · 16/09/2019 16:59

I am not surprised that he has had a complex and v traumatic childhood. No surprise then that he is an addict to numb/fill the emotional pain/hole - which he isn’t even conscious of. That might explain it but it doesn’t excuse it. He would need to stop using and then commit to some very long term and specialist psychotherapy to address this.

However whilst he continues to be in denial and is in active addiction

  • he is being a bad parent and inadvertently inflicting emotional injury on your children. You may not see it now but it will come through behaviours either in teenage years, or they develop addictions or fail to have successful relationships. And the inter generational emotional dysfunction is handed down.

You are the only one who can change the dynamic here has to protect your children. He hasn’t done in decades. He is an adult that has made choices. Your children are not able to make choices so you need to do that for them.

I also believe that getting him to leave is the shock he needs. He might seek help. He might not. Most addiction specialists say that the addict needs to be fully clean for 12 months before they embark on a relationship. Maybe you need to get some emotional support for yourself.

Shortfeet · 16/09/2019 17:00

Is he still smoking weed ?

Leave him for leaving's sake if you are not happy.

NOT because "there's better men out there "

That's a terrible reason to add to reasons to leave.

Imtrying2 · 16/09/2019 22:08

Yes he still smokes it, can’t manage without it and relies on it for sleep or he can’t sleep without it.

OP posts:
BumbleBeee69 · 16/09/2019 22:13

OP you're making so many excuses for him... STOP and think of your kids and get him OUT. Flowers

Pinkbonbon · 16/09/2019 22:19

You might be shocked to hear this but - Your partner is actually abusive. He does things deliberately to 'crush' you. Such as the honeymoon incident. It's all to make you feel 'not good enough' and break your spirits. Ignoring your birthday, lack if affection ect...its all part of the same plan.

Leave him, he will never change and abuses only beg for other chances in order to guilt trip you into staying and be further abused.

Pinkbonbon · 16/09/2019 22:23

Also,his family background is not to blame. I would recommend a faverote of mumsnet called 'why does he do that?' By Lundy bankroft. In it he mentions that women often say 'oh his mum was abusive/didn't give him enough support' or 'he must have mental health issues to act this way'. But findings do not support this.

Abusive men are manipulative and they like to blame others for their issues to deflect you from looking directly at their issues.

Wallywobbles · 17/09/2019 05:27

I'd second reading Lundy. I always thought that my ex was like that because he must be ill. After reading Lundy I realized that actually he's just a cunt. Such a cunt that he's lost parental responsibility and his kids haven't seen him since they were 8&9. Their choice.

DustMyselfOff · 17/09/2019 05:34

I am you. I'm in the middle of filing for divorce.

Details aren't exactly the same but this constant uselessness and broken promises - it won't change. You know it won't. Huge hugs. I can't tell you what to do, you have to make the decision on your own in your own time but it sounds like you have lovely parents. You'll be ok.

CIareIsland · 17/09/2019 07:41

Your children won’t thank you for staying with him. They will blame you and hold you responsible for their miserable childhood and the resultant issues that they carry emotionally limping through their adult lives.

They will determine that you put his needs above theirs.

There have been loads of threads on here where the adult children of addicts / abuse / neglect / come back and say this. There are loads of websites and charities supporting the fall out from the adult children of these families.

VictoriaBun · 17/09/2019 07:58

His past should not effect you and your child's future.
He is 33, yet is acting like a 17 year old. You are an adult, he hasn't yet learnt how to be one.
He isn't a good role model. Would you want your child to turn out like him?
What is in this relationship for you ?

AgentJohnson · 17/09/2019 09:23

It sounds like he’s totally checked out years ago and doesn’t really want to be with you but is too lazy to actually do anything about it.

^ This

Time to move forward and you can not do that with him.

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