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Time for a talk

128 replies

Mrshappy2019 · 13/09/2019 10:01

I put a post on here about how I’d being talking to a male friend and should it continue as it is perhaps inappropriate. I received a lot of good advice and one thing that is clear is that my marriage is in a worse state than I realised or at least refused to acknowledge.

I am going to speak with my hubby tonight and see what he thinks as this has kind of been the elephant in the room we don’t discuss

We have been married 12 years and have two children ages 6 and 9. We both work full time and most of my spare time is taken up with family duties. He is an ok dad however he could do more with the children. Many Saturdays or Sunday’s he goes watching football and drinks excessively. We used to be very close but over the years we’ve become more distant and I’ve put this down to busy lives etc and in all honestly neither make an effort to address this. He has become more moody over the years and puts me down at times by rolling his eyes or calling me stupid. Sometimes I’m worried to tell him things for example the central heating broke and he blamed me even though the engineer said it was wear and tare. He doesn’t bother coming to my parents anymore as he says they bore him and dropping my filter here completely we haven’t had physical involvement with each other since last December.

I know some suggest counselling but he 100% would dismiss this so how do I approach this conversation

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PepsiLola · 15/09/2019 11:18

7:30 am?! Shock

PepsiLola · 15/09/2019 11:19

What are you going to do OP? This obv isn't working and he won't talk to you!

Techway · 15/09/2019 11:44

He is punishing you for raising the issue of your unhappiness. I don't think he has any intention of changing as life probadly suits him. He has told you that you are "boring" yet doesn't invite you out with him. I suspect he feels jealous of your attention to the children rather than genuinely wanting time with you. Does he have an issue with drinking? Does he come from a family of boozers ?

Please don't engage with OM, you are bound to feel vulnerable and I think he sounds like a player.. mentioning your tights and then pretending it was innocent.

Also you will be judged harshly if your H makes out you were the one to have an affair. It is fair for you to object to your H drinking & staying out. The impact on the children must not be under estimated and he is no role model. Could you manage financially alone?

Mrshappy2019 · 15/09/2019 11:52

The ball is in his court now I’m not pushing for a conversation. I expect apologies this week but they’ll have to come with an uncomfortable chat for him. The girl answering his phone and laughing really pissed me off and unless something drastic happens he can move out for a bit

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ISmellBabies · 15/09/2019 12:01

Why is the ball in his court? What's stopping you saying to him "our marriage isn't working anymore, I've had enough, it's over"?

ChevalierTialys · 15/09/2019 12:13

You could just tell him to leave OP. What is he contributing? He swans in and out as he pleases and treats you like shit. You're not running a hotel for him. Getting the girl to answer the phone and telling her to tell you he's busy... he did that on purpose to piss you off and you can bet the entire pub knows what a "terrible wife" you are.

Time to tell him he needs to leave. The absolute lack of respect is clear and as you already know he won't go to counselling, you know this isn't going to get any better.

As for not disrupting the kids - the kids are better off seeing you happy and independent than watching you put up with this. You are laying the template for their future relationships. Do you want this bullshit for them?

Mrshappy2019 · 15/09/2019 12:43

Just meant the balls in his court to instigate a conversation

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Mrshappy2019 · 15/09/2019 13:42

Update * he’s up and getting used to life in the spare room!! My sister is staying with me all week and currently making his life a misery. He still has an attitude

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Dickensnovel · 15/09/2019 14:27

I think I luvs your sister!! Flowers

Mrshappy2019 · 15/09/2019 14:42

Me too 🙂

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WizardOfAus · 15/09/2019 14:43

Seriously, why haven’t you asked him to leave yet?!?! Why are you allowing him the luxury of staying in the spare bedroom?!? You are allowing this idiot to walk all over you.

Epona1 · 15/09/2019 15:48

So where has he been until 7.30am?

Seriously, stop being a doormat, kick him out and go see a solicitor. The ball isn’t in his court, take control of the situation. He isn’t going to offer to talk, he isn’t going to offer an apology and he certainly isn’t going to change his ways.

Self respect, pick it up off the floor.

Robin2323 · 15/09/2019 16:29

I don't think you can ask someone to leave if it's their house.
Also splitting up is not easy.
He does not have to pay the mortgage only child maintenance so you either lose your home and get something cheaper.
Or you buy him out and pay the mortgage which has now doubled .
Also you will have to work full time unless you're loaded.

meccacos2 · 15/09/2019 17:27

I would tell him you’ve had enough of his attitude and you would like a break and then suggest practicalities such as him moving out for a bit.

His behaviour is disgusting. Then you can see where things go with Paul.

Although, Paul sounds like a dick too.

Mrshappy2019 · 16/09/2019 10:17

Update * he wanted to do the school run with me today to which I agreed. Then he’s gone off to work

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Mrshappy2019 · 16/09/2019 10:39

I wasn’t gonna put this on here as I know everyone would disapprove however on Saturday night I told my sister about Paul so she asked to see him on Facebook which I showed her. She was annoyed about that girl answering husbands phone so when I went to sleep she went on my Facebook and liked some of Paul’s pictures and basically said ignore what I said last week and he can message me anytime by Facebook messenger 🙈

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Coops80 · 16/09/2019 11:58

OMG Your sister sounds ruthless 😱😱

Needsomebottle · 16/09/2019 16:17

Oh god, I understand your sister defending you but its really only going to complicate matters and mess the guy around. I'd try find a way to wriggle out of it without him thinking you're being odd.

I'd approach one problem at once. If it's over, have that conversation, make it be over. Then have some time to clear your head, then open up the floor to messages from others! At the moment, from what you've said, you've done nothing wrong, you nearly strayed into dodgy territory but you took a really fair approach, recognising what it meant and tried to address the issues, DH is being a dick, but don't give him ammunition to fire back at you. Stand firm, follow through and work things out or don't, but try not to muddy the waters.

MsDogLady · 16/09/2019 16:24

You made a decision about Paul and had an adult conversation with him. Your sister had no right to take control and manipulate your lives like that.

squeakybike · 16/09/2019 16:25

He sounds like an absolute child and has no respect for you. I hope you find the courage to get rid of him and find your happiness. That's no way to live.

Mrshappy2019 · 16/09/2019 18:19

Yeah my sister shouldn’t have done that but in her own way she was looking out for me

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Coops80 · 16/09/2019 18:29

Has Paul messaged you?? Will you message him back??

Mrshappy2019 · 16/09/2019 18:31

Yes and we’ve messaged a bit today 🙈

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MrsGrindah · 16/09/2019 18:39

Really? Sister putting messages on Facebook for you? OP this is too serious for silly teenage behaviour. You have kids, Paul is a real person with feelings who doesn’t need you or your sister messing with him.

You have a marriage problem. Deal with that first.

amiapropermum · 16/09/2019 18:45

Paul is not the solution to this problem. That's just going to complicate matters and it won't end well for anyone. Sort things out with your husband and then see how you feel. Your perspective is probably skewed right now. Also don't put yourself in a position where your husband can use this against you

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