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Did he know he had genital herpes

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Pinkgirl1986 · 08/09/2019 21:21

Hi
Opinions please...
I understand this is a hard one

I have been with my partner about 12 months. I've known him a couple of years. We were friends. Spoke on the phone regularly - therefore I knew his dating history and he knew mine. We got together after I had my baby to my ex who is no longer on the scene. We slept together after about 3 months of me giving birth. We both had a full screen sti test before sex. Little did I know that herpes and genital warts are not included on a test. Therefore we both had a clear test. We had unprotected sex for a couple of weeks and one day my partner came in to the bedroom with some sore skin on his penis and said 'you've given me thrush'. I said to him that's not thrush and thrush can't be passed on through sex can it? He responded it can. It crossed my mind 'isn't herpes a genital skin condition' then I brushed it off thinking well we've both had a test, so I apologised and said that I'd go to the doctors and get some canestan. We had sex that night. Anyway after the weekend had been and gone, about six days later I started with severe burning when weeding, I couldn't walk, I felt like I had a 'cut' down there. I didn't link the two together. I brought my doctors appointment for thrush forward as an emergency. The doctor swabbed my genitals and did a blood test. The doctor said they didn't think it was thrush but more genital herpes. I was very calm and said 'it can't be I've been tested' the doctor confirmed that a herpes screening is not an nhs standard test as false negatives occur frequently. They explained that if a sore is not swabbed at the right time it can come back negative and a blood test will only show a positive result after herpes has been in your system and antibodies have developed. Anyway the results came back. POSITIVE FOR HERPES on the swab. Negative on the bloods. I had no antibodies. Which meant this was a confirmed FIRST OUTBREAK. I had all the flu like symptoms too which also means it was a first ever outbreak. Herpes can lay dormant in your system but the doctor confirmed it usually is always your most recent partner and symptoms appear after 2-20 days from exposure. This made sense. My partner had dry skin down there, 6 days later I'm at the doctors sore on my genitals. ANYWAY it crossed my mind WHY would he come in to the bedroom and say 'you have given me thrush' ??? Instantly blaming me. It made me think, did he know? Why would he be so ignorant. It's like he knew what it was, was playing it down to thrush and making sure it was my fault.

I told my partner. He didn't ask questions. Didn't look shocked. Nothing. Just said 'we'll, im spending my life with you so it's not an issue'. I said 'don't you want to get checked out in case you don't have it so we can make sure we practice safe sex' 'don't you want to know if you have it just to know' 'don't you want to go get medication yourself' 'aren't you bothered how this will affect our sex life' etc etc. He never did or doesn't have any intention to visit a doctor. He said he is embarrassed. I said how can you be embarrassed when you're in front of me telling me it's not an issue and to forget about it? I couldn't understand how calm he was.

Anyway he keeps telling me he has never had any symptoms before. BUT when he said he felt he had 'thrush' in the bedroom he also mentioned that he's had thrush before so knew it was that...
since I was diagnosed he said he's had tingles down there now but has never experienced it before until he was with me and says I GAVE HIM IT? but I was confirmed as a first outbreak for me and to my knowledge, he hasn't been tested. He NEVER went to see a doctor to find out if he had it and whether he had antibodies. It's constantly playing on my mind. I feel he is ignoring the doctor for the reason. Either:

  • he knows and doesn't want the diagnosis confirmed because he knows he has passed it on before and doesn't want it on paper so he can't be blamed for knowingly passing it on
  • he doesn't want to go to the doctor because it is confirmed and he doesn't want me to find out that he knew

My mind is going crazy. We went over previous partners and he said I was more promiscuous than him... but it's not down to promiscuity. And for the record, I wasn't. He is just horrible to me. Calls me a slag. Makes people up that I've slept with. Calls me a beg. Etc. I have been careful to use protection with previous partners or have STI tests prior to intercourse. Obviously I've learnt now that doesn't make a difference anyway.
He said my most recent partner would be most likely to have herpes. He said his most recent partner was 'up on her sti testing'. I was absolutely fuming and responded I WAS UP ON MY STI TESTING. It makes no odds. Anyway he strangely said that he felt if it wa going to be anyone it would be a previous partner from 18 months ago... I found this odd.. I said how can you make that assumption unless you knew it was her? WHY HER?

Anyway he's made it very clear that he's never had symptoms until the day he thought he had 'thrush' he's too embarrassed to go to a doctor, I was more promiscuous and it must have been dormant in my system. Etc etc.

It's a very bad relationship for a lot of reasons and he tells me he wishes he'd never met me a lot of the time and lists off reasons, but NEVER says 'I wish I didn't meet you because gave me herpes' which makes me feel he knew. Because if you asked me why I wish I'd never met him that would be the FIRST reason I would say. It's like he subconsciously forgets to try and hide the fact he knew or at least had suspicions.

I said to him aren't you bothered you will have to mention this to another partner if we break up and he seemed very calm. It almost seemed as if he hadn't thought about it because he wouldn't mention it.

I'll add he has 2 kids to 2 women, is a very woe is me man (it's not his fault he has 2 kids to 2 women), feels he has nothing going for him, is desperate for a family (not in a good way), works nights and wollows in self pity. (These are all things he says too). When I look at it from his perspective I think he possibly knew... but obviously wouldn't want to advertise, hey, I have 2 kids to 2 women, work nights, have herpes, I'm a nasty piece of work, potentially living with ADHD and autism. He knows his baggage is a lot. Now I'm the kind of person that would have accepted him through and through. With the truth.

My gut just tells me he didn't have a natural reaction for someone who was told they likely have an incurable STI such as herpes. He is also always pushy to have sex when I have an outbreak or will try to perform oral on me and I'm more like turned off, getting used to the fact I'm living like this and ALSO for someone who apparently didn't know he had herpes wouldn't he want to do research on the possibility of annoculation etc like I did? I wouldn't want to go down on him if he was flaring up? It literally makes no sense.

So my question is what do you think? I know I'll never find out but I just need to know I am not crazy..

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Pinkgirl1986 · 09/09/2019 14:20

@Jaffacakesaremyfave thanks hun. X

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FinallyHere · 09/09/2019 14:32

He is just horrible to me. Calls me a slag.

Sorry you are going through this. It's really not sounding good. You have posted a few excuses about why you can't get rid of him. Please know that it is not your fault and you have done nothing wrong.

He is just not worth your while. Get rid.

Have a look at the https://www.freedomprogramme.co.uk

GenuineKlatchianPottery · 09/09/2019 14:44

Are you absolutely 100% positive he had a clean STD test OP, have you seen written proof or did you just take his word for it that he was clear?
He absolutely knows he had herpes and that he’s passed it to you.
He’s also a complete cunt who you need to get rid of as soon as possible.

Cobblersandhogwash · 09/09/2019 14:52

He sounds vile.

He knew.

What if it isn't only herpes he has?

He doesn't care about spreading his STIs about. Wow.

He's not a catch, is he?

And then there's the rest of his nasty behaviour.

Can you get rid of him pronto?

chickenyhead · 09/09/2019 15:45

OP do please think about doing the freedom programme, I did.

There is no pressure and it can clear the fog brain

Xxx

Hidingtonothing · 09/09/2019 16:06

It's a shame you can't see what we can see Pink, these things scream at me from your posts. You're obviously a strong, bright, determined woman, you've been through a couple of shitty relationships and big life changes and now you're doubting yourself and swinging between wondering how the fuck you got here and feeling it's all your own fault. Its not your fault, he (and your previous ex in all likelihood) has chipped away at you on purpose to erode your self belief and confidence enough that they can then control you.

And yet, despite all that, your strength is still there underneath, we can still see it and you will too once you're away from him and starting to heal. The way you stick to your guns over how you parent your baby shows what kind of woman you are, and you're a million times too good for him.

It's also obvious what he is, have a look through 'the abuser profiles', he will tick many, many boxes. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/2268977-The-Abuser-Profiles Do some reading, understanding what's happening to you will help you stop questioning yourself and give you the strength to get away.

And btw, if it helps at all I've lived with herpes for 20-odd years and I know it can feel like the end of the world but it really, honestly isn't. DH knew I had it before he married me, it's something we've had to manage at times but it hasn't held us back. He is still symptom-free after 18 years together and I haven't had an outbreak in a long time now but it's never been a big deal for us. There is life afterwards, don't listen if he tries to tell you there isn't Flowers

Username22344 · 09/09/2019 16:12

He sounds like a narcissist

31RueCambon75001 · 09/09/2019 17:07

Watch meredith miller, ross rosenberg, lisa romano on youtube OP.

They label all of these predictably toxic behaviors and help you shore up yr emotional defences

31RueCambon75001 · 09/09/2019 17:13

Fear Obligation Guilt.

FOG

this is how men like this manipulate you.

Also goal post shifting, blaming, denying all responsibility and projection to make you feel ur going crazy.

You are not crazy but you need to do some research.

Somebody once controlled me. I get it. I will link some excellent clips when i get home.

Mycatatetherat · 09/09/2019 17:53

He didn't accept you even though you had a baby, he targeted you because you had a baby. You were vulnerable. You now sound strong, please just dump and block him and report if he continues harrassing you.

Glitterb · 09/09/2019 18:24

Anyone who has ever had unprotected sex is at risk of having the virus, however the bloke sounds an absolute moron and sadly he will probably go on the spread this to some other poor woman!

Please look after yourself, herpes will often reoccur when you’re stressed so another reason to bin him off!

AnneKipanki · 09/09/2019 19:48

You can get it off skin .

AnneKipanki · 09/09/2019 19:53

@Pinkgirl1986 definitely keep in touch with your Mum and the other mums . It is NOT you , it is HIM .
He has targeted you .
YOU and your DC are rich pickings to him . NEVER leave him with your child. PLEASE do not see him .
Hope you are still ok ,

jackwanger · 10/04/2020 06:54

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Queenoftheashes · 10/04/2020 07:05

He knew.

This guy gave me warts and said he hadn’t had it before. Then I realised once I’d had the medication that he’d had the same medication in his bedroom the first time I met him. Warticon. I had assumed it was for his finger. When I challenged him he said he’d had it years ago. But it was on his desk in a house he’d lived in a year.

Men are fucking liars.

TheGirlWithAPrince · 10/04/2020 07:24

I would say he knows as well, but its disgusting to give your other half a STD .. i would be booting him and telling him why.

jackwanger · 10/04/2020 07:30

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IdblowJonSnow · 10/04/2020 07:44

Oh OP. He sounds fucking horrible. Please either leave him or kick him out and dont wait for lockdown to be over.
STI issues aside he still sounds revolting.
And please do the freedom program because I think you need to work on your boundaries (I do mean that kindly).
Flowers

Thingsdogetbetter · 10/04/2020 07:53

Zombie

FenellaVelour · 10/04/2020 10:12

This is a zombie thread unfortunately revived by a massive spammer.

KittyKattyKate · 10/04/2020 10:29

Why on God’s green earth are you with this piece of shit? What could he possibly add to your life?

Of course he knew. Now kick him into touch.

KittyKattyKate · 10/04/2020 10:29

Ah, zombie. 😩

Pinkgirl1986 · 27/04/2020 19:07

Just an update. I left this guy not long after this thread and I am much happier and started some therapy. thank you to all who wrote on this thread with advice. X

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