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He has lost his job, how do I manage this?

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IdiotInDisguise · 08/09/2019 19:15

We have been together for about a year, he is affectionate and caring but I’m afraid he is a mess when it comes to organising his time and finances, if I don’t keep reminding him of things he has to do or pay, he just simply swans around until it becomes a problem. He has a good heart and is very generous (possibly part of the problem) but I am getting so frustrated with it all I am thinking of ending it, the only reason why I don’t is because I really enjoy his company.

So not to drip feed:

  • I work full time and care for my teen 24/7. My salary is small but I am very organised with money, so DS and I have a good life despite my income, we keep expenses in track and can afford some little luxuries from time to time. I am trying to save as much as possible to help DS once he starts uni in a couple of years time. I own a house (mortgaged)
  • Before he lost his job, he was earning twice my salary but he had a huge amount of debt, mainly the result of divorce legal fees and some hefty loans from his previous relationship. The payments for these debts, combined with child maintenance and high mortgage payments meant that he was often pennyless by the end of the month. Thankfully he didn’t mention about the debt until his mother passed as it would have killed me with worry. I really live with little money so it is not as if I have been missing going out or on holidays but I find it incredibly irritating and embarrassing to see his credit card been rejected.

Problem is, he lost his job before he got the inheritance so he has been having dinner at my house all the nights he doesn’t have the kids, he is often here throughout the day even when I’m at work.

He has a lot of stuff to do, sorting his house and clearing the one of his mum, but he is here all the day. He sometimes do help with the garden or housework but most of the nights I come in to find the house in the same mess I left it in the morning and with an extra mouth asking what’s for dinner.

He has got the money from the inheritance now, paid the debts and the remaining will keep him living comfortably even if he doesn’t find a job in years.

Problem is, I am tired of nagging him to do stuff, and I am tired of coming back to entertain and cook for someone when I am exhausted after work. The house is a mess because I simply don’t have time in the evenings to do house chores.

But the sticking point is the food. Most things I usually get from the supermarket come in two portions so having him around means I need to buy for four instead of two. He often offers to pay when we go to the supermarket but as we rarely go to the supermarket together, he is not making up for this extra expense.

How do I tell him I want him to give me some space, meet once or twice in the week instead and ask him to contribute to the cost of food and the work that having him around causes?

I know you are all going to tell me to end it but honestly, I want to explore the possibility of sorting things while he gets a job (he is actively looking and having interviews). I am fed up at him being at my home doing not much throughout the day and waiting for me to come and cook dinner (he will cook/pay for stuff if I ask him but I am bloody tired of having to remind him it is his turn to cook/pay)

Has anybody managed to keep a relationship with a disorganised man without killing the love you felt for him?

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NewMe2019 · 08/09/2019 19:56

Hang on, he's really tidy and cleans up after himself, but your complaint is he hasn't cleaned up after you!?

CIareIsland · 08/09/2019 19:58

No one “forgets”.

He is just disrespecting your needs, he is not hearing you and not prioritising you.

What did his marriage and last relationship fail I wonder.

Do you find his irresponsible man-child behaviour sexy?

IdiotInDisguise · 08/09/2019 19:58

I’m not scared of loosing him, I will be fineI just don’t want to loose him through what can be well a temporary situation, as soon as he gets a job, we are back to normal, without his debts and hopefully with him busy enough he doesn’t need to hang around that much.

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HundredMilesAnHour · 08/09/2019 19:58

You need to stop making excuses for him OP. This is not a man you want to be in a long term relationship with. He just looks after himself and doesn't look after you! You're out all day and he just sits around your house and when you come home, he still expects you to make his dinner? Why is he not making your dinner? (and doing the shopping for it) Why is he not cleaning up for you? You shouldn't have to ask! He's lazy and selfish. Get out now or you'll be stuck with him and writing many more posts on MN.

IdiotInDisguise · 08/09/2019 19:59

Hang on, he's really tidy and cleans up after himself, but your complaint is he hasn't cleaned up after you!?

No, my complaint is that I have no time to keep my house and life in order because he is here so often. I can keep my house spotless when I have no visitors for most of the week.

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HollowTalk · 08/09/2019 20:00

What kind of man can take food from a poor single mother and her child without absolutely insisting on paying for it? Honest to god, he is shameless.

IdiotInDisguise · 08/09/2019 20:00

He just looks after himself and doesn't look after you! You're out all day and he just sits around your house and when you come home, he still expects you to make his dinner? Why is he not making your dinner? (and doing the shopping for it) Why is he not cleaning up for you?

My point exactly.

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HundredMilesAnHour · 08/09/2019 20:00

I just don’t want to loose him through what can be well a temporary situation, as soon as he gets a job, we are back to normal, without his debts and hopefully with him busy enough he doesn’t need to hang around that much

You mean he won't be sitting around your house all day because he'll be at work. But I bet he'll still be round every night for you to cook his dinner, you'll still be buying his food, you'll still feel like your house is a mess and you don't have time to clean up because he's there in the evenings. You're kidding yourself, you really are.

IdiotInDisguise · 08/09/2019 20:03

@HollowTalk, the same one that the next day takes me for a 5* weekend holiday and refuses to let me pay for anything? The one that spends hundred of pounds in gifts for me? Honestly, I would prefer no gifts and no holidays in exchange of not having to remind him about the menial day to day stuff.

That is where all this confusion stems from.

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IdiotInDisguise · 08/09/2019 20:04

I would be happy to cook his dinner if he paid for the cleaner.

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Span1elsRock · 08/09/2019 20:04

So adding it all up - he's hopeless with money, has lost his job and spends all day at your house using your gas/electric, eating your food and doesn't even clear up after himself.

Who's got the cocklodger klaxon??

OP you're a mug. And he knows it. Stop making excuses and take off your rose tinted specs.

prawnsword · 08/09/2019 20:05

You clearly aren’t a good match - your attitudes about money, work etc are too different. You clash. He is irritating you.

Why is he even there when you aren’t home?

HollowTalk · 08/09/2019 20:08

@HollowTalk, the same one that the next day takes me for a 5 weekend holiday and refuses to let me pay for anything? The one that spends hundred of pounds in gifts for me? Honestly, I would prefer no gifts and no holidays in exchange of not having to remind him about the menial day to day stuff.*

But spending hundreds on gifts is not the same as eating the food in the fridge that you intended for the next night's dinner. As you say yourself, better to have no gifts/holidays.

Wiglio · 08/09/2019 20:10

All of the above OP, and soon he’ll have the heating on all day

IdiotInDisguise · 08/09/2019 20:12

Yes, the heating on... that’s the next one.

Now, he doesn’t eat anything from the fridge when I am not around. He only eats what I cook.

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HundredMilesAnHour · 08/09/2019 20:14

You're still defending him. So you say he isn't 'shameless' (although I think most of us on this thread would disagree) so he must be clueless then? Or just lazy? He doesn't pull his weight. Gifts don't compensate for that. Neither do expensive weekends away (and they must be such a hardship for him lol). It's all about him. Does he even know you really? Surely someone who knows you would help you out at home as that's what would make the difference for you on a regular basis?

I remember going to stay with my ex (we were still friends) and he was working during the day whilst I was swanning around playing at being at tourist (he lived overseas in a very nice - but expensive - capital city). He was earning good money whilst I was broke but I still went off to the supermarket with my phrase book to buy food and surprised him and his brother with a lovely 3 course dinner when they came home (their culinary skills were limited to microwave pizza). And I ironed ALL his shirts for work because I knew how much he hated ironing and it gave me pleasure to see the surprised look of delight when he opened his wardrobe. And I cleaned the entire flat too. None of this was expected. I did it because it would make his life easier and that made me happier. And this was for an ex! Why the hell is this man not doing these things for you?!!

prawnsword · 08/09/2019 20:15

So he hangs around everyday because he doesn’t want to cook ? Clearcut case of cocklodgery right there

IdiotInDisguise · 08/09/2019 20:16

You clearly aren’t a good match - your attitudes about money, work etc are too different. You clash. He is irritating you

I think you are right. Sad

Problem is, I am never idle. I am always trying to find solutions to what happens, I understand that there is not much to do when you are looking for a job, he is happy to do stuff around the house if I leave him with a list of chores to do BUT it is the always having to tell him what to do that kills me, honestly, he could be more proactive. I feel bad about having to ask him.

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Graphista · 08/09/2019 20:17

YET AGAIN! A woman in a ridiculous situation having moved a man in WITH kid to consider (or rather not!!) FAR FAR too soon!!

ONE YEAR!

Your child should barely bloody know him let alone be living with him!

He shouldn't have moved in without THOROUGH discussion and agreement on how finances and household management was going to work.

Seriously what WERE you thinking?!

Get him OUT stop being a DOORMAT and expecting your kid to put up with this loser too!!

"He would be a cocklodger if we were living together" you ARE living together! You just seem to not realise it! He's not only using your food he's using your heating, water, electricity, tv, Internet...

"without hurting his feelings?" Why are you worried about his feelings? He doesn't give a shit about yours OR your money/home!

"the same one that the next day takes me for a 5* weekend holiday and refuses to let me pay for anything? The one that spends hundred of pounds in gifts for me?" By the sounds of it he's able to do this due to the money you're saving him so actually YOU'RE paying for this!

Get him gone!

Any many who takes advantage of a single mother on a tight budget is a selfish arsehole!!

eladen · 08/09/2019 20:21

the same one that the next day takes me for a 5 weekend holiday and refuses to let me pay for anything? The one that spends hundred of pounds in gifts for me?

You mean the easy stuff that boosts his ego as your generous benefactor? And makes you feel too guilty to challenge him about the on going serious issues?

His lack of respect for you and willingness to exploit you aren't temporary, they've just been brought into sharp focus by a situation that may be temporary. Just imagine what he'd be like to live with full time.

You sound great, so why aren't you placing more value on yourself?

HundredMilesAnHour · 08/09/2019 20:22

Problem is, I am never idle. I understand that there is not much to do when you are looking for a job,

That isn't the problem. He's the problem. He's a stealth cocklodger.

I should also point out that there is LOTS to do when you're looking for a job. Career advisers will tell you that looking for work is effectively a full time job. And it is. If you're proactive that is. But he's lazy. Bone idle even.

@Graphista is bang on the money. I agree with every word!

prawnsword · 08/09/2019 20:25

But he is hanging around at your place because you allow it. He doesn’t see your place as his responsibility. Why do you need to leave him a list of chores to do when he does not live there?

Get him out! You don’t see eye to eye on life. You don’t respect his relaxed attitude.

He is taking advantage of you I think, it benefits him to stay at yours instead of his. Yours is more comfortable for whatever reasons, home cooked meals being one.

CIareIsland · 08/09/2019 20:25

He is in significant debt, doesn’t have a job but you are impressed with him blowing money on a 5* break.......

eladen · 08/09/2019 20:26

I feel bad about having to ask him.

Don't. Feel angry that he's such a disrespectful, manipulative sod that he refuses to do anything unless you repeatedly ask - no doubt in hopes you'll get so fed up of asking / feel guilty so you'll decide it's easier to just do yourself.

I bet he doesn't feel bad about making you ask him.

IdiotInDisguise · 08/09/2019 20:27

Graphista, I am not living with him, he appears here in the morning. I’m not what YOU think the stereotypical single mother is, so go away with your prejudices.

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