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xxEllxxbeexx · 20/08/2019 21:01

Hi. This is my first time posting so pleaae bare with me. It is also quite graphic but I want to explain everything i can I'd really like as much help here as possible as I feel the past few days I've been in a very very dark place mentally and emotionally.

On 5th July this year I went out to a local pub. Sadly in the early hours of the 6rh July I was raped.
I was raped by a man I knew - a friend of my ex partner. My ex partner is my sons father and daughters step father and i hold a very good friendship with.
(Still have feelings for him but these have been irrelevant to my life since we split 2 years ago)

The night it happened was a normal night out with lots of local friends at a local pub. Fast forward to the end of the night, myself and my female friend were too impatient to wait for a taxi for the sake of a 5 minute walk home.. 3 lads who we knew walked us home - they were at the same pub and we knew them very well but wasn't on a night out with them. As a thankyou and as I knew them I invited them into my home where we continued socialising and chatting about normal things, enjoying our night.
I hadn't drank a massive amount of alcohol as I had a headache which I had been taking medication for all that day so around 12.45am on the 6th I decided to go to bed and asked my female best friend to lock up once everyone was gone. (I trusted everyone in my house)

The male who committed the assault is called 'T' FOR THE SAKE OF THIS POST.

T came upto my room and lay on my bed. (T is my ex's very good friend) and went on to say how nice it was to hear an ex partner speak so highly of the other ex. (Me speaking about his friend, my ex, father to my son) I went on to explain we didn't seperate on bad terms and he was a good father so I had nothing bad to say about him)
I explained around 3 times i was going to sleep as my head was pounding - in the hope he would leave my bedroom as he seemed to get abit comfy on my bed in a short space of time which I wasn't ok with but thought I was maybe irritable because of a headache so didn't want to seem rude asking him to get out. I wanted to be polite. Before I knew it he kissed me. I imediatley pulled away and explained I wasn't interested and it was wrong he did that. I also explained i was in no way attracted to him and I wanted him to leave my bedroom so I could sleep. With that i rolled over and drifted off to sleep.

I didn't look at the time so I am unaware of how long i drifted off for however I didn't feel like I had slept long when i was woken up to his fingers inside of me. I immediately asked him what he was doing and asked him to stop as this wasn't what i wanted. He persisted to kiss my face and neck and told me ' you know it feels good' and didn't stop. While doing this he was thrusting himself up my leg/side. I asked him again to stop to which he replied 'shhhhh your tjrning me on badly' and carried on kissing my neck and face. I felt numb and just lay there.
I told him I felt like I was going to orgasm and I didnt want to and asked him again to stop. I'm not sure why i felt like this because at the same time i felt limp and physically sick.
After around what felt like forever, realistically it lasted about 7 or 8 minutes.

I'm really ashamed to say i did orgasm but didn't know how to stop this as I couldn't physically move (he didn't restrain me my body just felt heavy and dead)

I was in bed in a body suit I had wore out that night with jeans and a jacket so the bodysuit poppers were undone by my vagina when he slid his fingers into me.
After he realised I had an orgasm he quickly climbed iver on top of me and slid his penis inside of me with alot of satisfaction.. Like i wasn't even in the room. I asked him 'T please dont do this, I've asked u to stop, please, I dont want this to happen' he replied sexually ' ahh yeah, yeah, and making sexual noises. I was totally numb and could barley feel my heart beating. This went on for around 10 minutes before i got up and shouted ' I SAID FUCKING NO' - im not sure where it came from, it's like my body went into auto mode and just did it. Seconds before i couldn't move I just had my fists clenched under my chin and felt numb.

With this I got my house coat and wrnt down stairs to realise my female friend and male friend were having a smooch on my sofa so I couldn't even speak to her. I had a cigarette and dreaded going back upstairs. But I did. I made that cigarette last as long as possible.

Now back upstairs I asked him to leave and get out of my house imediatley. He called a taxi which was a 20 minute wait. I got into my bed and wrapped myself into my covers as tight as I could and wondered if i was actually dreaming! I could hear him asking me not to tell anyone and not to tell my ex. I didn't respond to him. He went a short while later.

I woke up the next day and researched rape alot from the 6th July 2019 to now. I even contacted a rape line who took my number to call me back but never did.

I messaged him the same day (later on in the evening via instagram) and asked why he did it and that it wasn't ok and I wasn't happy with it. I explained I told him no atleast 50 times and that i felt powerless.

He replied telling me I was mad and blaming him for my regrets. The conversation went no further stand I instantly blocked him and have never herd from him since.
The same day 6th July 2019 I ordered an std online testing kit and sent my samples around a week and a half later - guide lines of time frame to wait after sex before swabs are taken.
I got my results arpund a week later and he gave me clamidia and gonorhea. I was on holiday in Devon with my children when i got the results so found the nearest sexual health clinic for help. They were amazing. The treated both infections there and then.
During the examination they asked some difficult questions where I totally broke down and told them what happened and gave them his name.

The did a propper examination and told me to seek more advice when im bk home as I was only there for a few days.
I have been home around 4 weeks now and I still don't know what to do.
I want to tell my ex more than anything but I am simply petrified.
I feel lile i dont want to go to the police as I'm petrified people will think im lying as T is a very well known man. I'm so so scared and feel in a very dark place.

Thankyou so much if u made it to the end of this post.

I will apriciate any advice. Xxx

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Michelleoftheresistance · 20/08/2019 21:12

I'm so sorry this happened to you. Well done for getting the tests and treatment.

Rape crisis website is here: rapecrisis.org.uk they can help with support and counselling. They have a phone line and are confidential. Flowers

Michelleoftheresistance · 20/08/2019 21:17

I'd also suggest copying your post over on the relationships board (you can find it by clicking the talk menu and looking under the body and soul section) as that's where you'll find a wealth of posters with a lot of experience and knowledge of the kinds of support available, including crisis support.

DuMondeB · 20/08/2019 21:20

I don’t think you are lying.

Please don’t be frightened to tell the important people in your life - you deserve to have support.

Try contacting a support service again? Perhaps the person just took your number down wrong?

ClaraMumsnet · 20/08/2019 21:23

Hi OP, we're so sorry that this happened to you.

We hope you don't mind, but we added a trigger warning to the thread title, just as your post is quite detailed. You had posted this thread in a few different areas; we really want you to be able to get support, so we've removed the duplicate threads and moved this over to Relationships for you. Flowers

xxEllxxbeexx · 20/08/2019 21:24

Thankyou to you both for getting to the end of a shortened version of events but with as much detail as possible... I really apriciate your reply. I feel better using something like this to get it off my chest aposed to talking face to face or on the phone.

I will try and post over at a mkre relevant board, thankyou. Sorry it's my first time here im very new. Thankyou again xx

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FermatsTheorem · 20/08/2019 21:24

Flowers OP. If you feel this would be better in relationships, you can "report" your own post and ask MN to move it; if you want a specifically feminist response by all means leave it here (though relationships is a pretty feminism friendly place too).

I am glad the STD clinic were sympathetic and supportive. BTW, if it's worrying you that you orgasmed, I gather this is actually not that unusual during rape - one's body does what it does, regardless of what the mind thinks about it. So don't whatever you do beat yourself up about this. You said no, repeatedly. He knew exactly what he was doing. (And I suspect had done it before - the "you're imagining things, suffering from regret" text suggests he has his routine of excuses and creating a paper trail to create "reasonable doubt" in the mind of a potential jury off pat - evil fucker.)

As for taking it forward - do what is best for you. This might be reporting, it might be going to rape crisis. But whatever you decide, don't struggle with it alone, get help.

xxEllxxbeexx · 20/08/2019 21:25

Thankyou so much for moving this post over. I'm really sorry i wasnt sure where or how to post it . I have been trying since last night but the app wasn't working or letting me post . Thankyou again for your help in moving my post as I wouldn't know how to xx

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xxEllxxbeexx · 20/08/2019 21:31

Thankyou for your support (all of you) im unsure if i can reply to individual replies to my post so I'm sorry if im confusing everyone.

With regards to orgasm - the NHS staff at the clinic where I was treated told me it was perfectly normal and your correct.. it was my body's way of trying to make it through what my brain knew was going on as quickly as possible.. I'm really undecided what to do or how much evidence I need to take it further. After all its his word against mine. I have however kept the bodysuit which I was wearing.. it's hidden away in a bottom draw. But I not sure this would hold any evidence at all.
I can't bring myself to put my family through this mentally.. my parents are amazing and I come from a very happy family home.. parents married 30 years and had the best upbringing so I can't imagine what this would do to them mentally.. xx

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DuMondeB · 20/08/2019 21:38

Having a physiological response to rape (such as orgasm) is a known phenomenon - a therapist can help you work through your feelings about it, but it’s not unusual and it certainly doesn’t mean it wasn’t rape.

www.glasgowclyderapecrisis.org.uk/news/blog/sexual-assault-and-sexual-arousal/

InsertFunnyUsername · 20/08/2019 21:41

Sorry this happened to you OP. I have no advice but just to say, how your body responded is not abnormal so please dont feel like you must have wanted it somehow (I have heard many women say and think this) like a PP said it's just your body reacting.

I hope you're ok, and can speak to people about what happened to you. This so called man is a scumbag.

xxEllxxbeexx · 20/08/2019 21:47

I haven't read up on how my body responded but am now in the process of doing so.. thankyou for your comments I feel better just letting it all out. I am 30 years old with 2 children, single parent and work so I'm kept very busy at all times but it dosent seem to be enough for me as it's constantly hanging over me.

I feel really guilty for the girlfriend if the man who raped me.. she is pregnant with his second child and I'm assuming he has also given her a STI. is there anyway i can anonomosly inform her as id hate to think it could harm her or her baby. X

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SomeAfternoonDelight · 20/08/2019 21:59

I didn’t want to read your harrowing ordeal and not provide any form of reply OP. He is a horrible nasty vile creature. I am so so so sorry this has happened to you. Please tell someone. Talk to someone in real life. Go to the police. He does not deserve to walk free. X

Boots20 · 20/08/2019 22:02

I'm so sorry this happened to you OP. As for his pregnant girlfriend, I'm pretty sure you are tested for STIs etc during pregnancy so she may find out without your help. I'd focus on your own recovery Flowers

Fifteenthnamechange · 20/08/2019 22:21

Look up your local SARC @xxEllxxbeexx (sexual assault referral centre). They often have counselling & other support services you can access Thanks

xxEllxxbeexx · 20/08/2019 22:25

Thankyou all for your replies I have read them all and I really apriciate your advice.

I'm hoping she finds out about the STI - forever worrying about others before myself, just my nature I guess.. I am going to follow up some support from those mentioned above this week and see if i can get some counselling for it. Thankyou all again xx

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Bob42 · 20/08/2019 22:39

I’m so sorry this happened to you, but you really need to tell your ex and get him to tell the scumbags girlfriend. What a vile piece of shit. Please speak to someone, you need support with this. Take care x

xxEllxxbeexx · 20/08/2019 22:47

I'm unsure if telling my ex is a good idea as they are a very big group of friends and this would cause a massive uproar. This is my worry. More than anything i want to tell him. It breaks my heart as he is the only person I want at the moment but just can't bring myself to tell him.

I agree he shouldn't walk free but I'm so worried i will be made to look a liar or there won't be enough evidence to charge him.

Xx

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milksoffagain · 20/08/2019 22:57

You poor love I am sending you huge hugs.

For what its worth, as a mum I would always rather know if something as horrendous as this had happened to my daughter so that I could be there for her. She is about your age and there would be nothing worse than to think of her going through it all alone...

DuMondeB · 20/08/2019 23:24

Speak to professional services first, they will be able to help you decide if/how to tell your ex.

xxEllxxbeexx · 20/08/2019 23:27

I totally agree. I would be devastated if my daughter didn't tell me as i am a mum too.. but i honestly feel like I couldn't mentally do that to them. I know how much they will worry and as a parent myself i can only imagine they will blame themself as we always do with our babies.. I just couldn't think of anything worse than putting them through that but I 100% agree.. my mum would want to know but i just dont know how to tell her and really dont want to put her or my dad through the detailed image of it.

I'm so confused as to what to do. I have told my best friend who was downstairs the night it happened and she's been really supportive and has stood by my decision as I'm making them x

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AskEvans · 20/08/2019 23:38

My daughter was drugged and raped about 10 years ago. She had to spend some time in hospital after due to the injuries she sustained. We live on the outskirts of a city and the rape crisis centre were very helpful; if you have one nearby I would definitely get in touch.

xxEllxxbeexx · 20/08/2019 23:45

Thankyou I am going to seek further help tomorrow. I'm so so sorry your daughter went through this horrific attack. I really hope shes found happiness and been able to put it behind her. Thankyou for your reply x

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AlternativePerspective · 20/08/2019 23:51

He is a vile specimen and you did nothing wrong.

I don’t know anything about these things, but did the STD clinic give you your test results in writing? If so then it might be useful if you report him to the police.

I would tell your ex. If he’s a decent man who knows you he will have no reason not to believe you. In fact I would suggest you tell him before this vile individual tells him his own (made up) version of events.

AskEvans · 20/08/2019 23:58

Yes do that definitely and also tell your parents asap. My daughter didn't tell me initially for 2 days as she didn't want to upset me, until she became so ill they had to admit her to hospital and they then told me. She was 18 and it was her first week at university many miles away. I was so sad that she hadn't told me straight away, that really upset me a lot.
She is fine now - has a good job, a lovely boyfriend that she lives with and has put it all behind her.

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