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Wondering if he'll cheat again

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JaneyJimplin · 17/07/2019 22:20

I'm posting here because I'm not sure what to do in real life.

My OH had an affair about 18m ago with a work colleague. In the aftermath of me finding out, he transferred to a different branch of his work , coincidentally she also moved abroad, so that's def over. We had counselling, he was remorseful, yadda yadda. Things have mostly been ok since.

I've been paranoid about another work colleague for a while. He works with many women, but I guess it's the little things that have alerted me. The mentionitis. He also once said to me how proud he was of her: she had started out as as a junior and worked her way up to management at a relatively young age. The comment rankled at the time but I couldn't place why, until I read a MN thread about another husband overly invested in a female work colleague's achievements, and someone insightful pointed out something along the lines of "but they're never that interested in Keith from accounts, are they?" and I realised it rankled because he is only ~interested~ proud because she's young, female, and attractive.

Fortunately for me, she got promoted again and so moved to another branch. Great, I thought - no reason for them to mingle.

Today we were driving to the airport to go on holiday and his phone rang. He has his hands free automatically connected to his car so the caller shows up on the media screen. Phone rings, we both see her name on the screen, he rejects the call (not entirely unusual when the kids are in the car, as they're noisy). A moment passes, and he says "that's the second time she's called me, I hope nothing is up" (as in work issues).
This evening I've snooped at his phone and seen the following WhatsApp exchange:

Him : all ok?
Her : yes, just calling to say have fun on your holiday and be careful!! X (It's an activity holiday)
Him : thanks. Meet up for a coffee and catch up when I'm back x

Am I wrong to think this might be heading somewhere beyond professional relations?

My gut is saying this is just a flirtation, bordering on inappropriate friendship, with a potential to grow in to another affair. I might be being paranoid because of history, but his modus operandi is definitely attractive young junior colleague who fawns over him.

If he does it again, we will be finished. I'd like to nip it in the bud before it reaches that stage.

How do I proceed? Tell him I've snooped and he better wind his dick in before things go too far? He might deny and act the victim and then just hide things better. Or do I visit her branch and tell her to back off? Downside is I'll look crazy (justified tbh) and embarrass him professionally. Or do I do nothing and stew... or something else?

What would you do?

In anticipation of all the LTB comments: our kids have SEN and wouldn't be right at this stage for them to have us separate. My goal.is to keep us as this ~somewhat~ happy family unit for as long as possible for them.

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SuperSange · 17/07/2019 22:22

Why should you be the one to try to stop it before it starts? He's done it once, he'll do it again. 🤷🏻‍♀️

JaneyJimplin · 17/07/2019 22:23

Strike through fail Blush

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usernameee · 17/07/2019 22:23

He will do it again

JaneyJimplin · 17/07/2019 22:25

Super, I dont know for sure. "Once a cheat, always a cheat" is just a saying, not a forgone conclusion. He was remorseful last time,maybe he has learnt his lesson and I'm just being paranoid 🤷🏼‍♀️ total headfuck.

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usernameee · 17/07/2019 22:25

I really believe that you staying together with all this bubbling underneath AND a previous affair will in the long run be more damaging than if you did the right thing and recognised that this will most likely happen over and over again an eventually inevitably break your family apart.

But that's just my opinion.

FairytaleOfWigan · 17/07/2019 22:28

Well he’s not remorseful enough to stop having close work friendships with attractive young women.

Is what way has he actually shown remorse with his behaviour ( as opposed to words ) ?

JaneyJimplin · 17/07/2019 22:29

Usernamee, if it's just damaging me I can cope. I just need to protect my children while they're so young.

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EyesOpenWide · 17/07/2019 22:30

I think unfortunately the others are right, he’ll do it again, might not be with this one, but he will at some point, because he’s clearly not learned boundaries or appropriate behaviour for a man who is just 18 months forgiven, post-affair.

I get you don’t want to LTB.

For gods sake don’t go visit her workplace, you’ll look like a psycho.

Personally I’d (LTB but you don’t want to do that) go absolutely fucking nuclear on him.

Pringlemunchers · 17/07/2019 22:31

I am so sorry, but he will do it again and is not even trying. If you are willing to accept an open relationship ( for the sake ) of the children that it you choice, but as horrible as it sounds, he is not committed to you and will not try, I am sorry to be so blunt,it must be awful for you and I hope you find the strength to make the best choices for you xx

Miniloso · 17/07/2019 22:32

I could not deal with this at all. In no way is this professional, and it is deeply disrespectful to you after his prior cheating. I would chuck him out!!!

Pringlemunchers · 17/07/2019 22:32

He hasn't even begun to know what his " lesson" was ?

JaneyJimplin · 17/07/2019 22:33

Fairytale,things were shit for months. We had counselling, he was definitely feeling bad. It's hard to tell if he was just feeling bad for himself, or for what he had done ...

My gut feeling is that, if he thought he could 100% get away with it, he'd cheat again. My issue is that I want to stop him before it reaches that stage so my kids can have a happy family.

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Singlenotsingle · 17/07/2019 22:33

I just think that once someone's been unfaithful, nothing's ever the same for either party. The trust has been broken. If she's been cheated on, she'll be suspicious at the slightest sign even if it's innocent. If DH is the cheater, it's so much easier for him to do it again afterwards. I'd hope for the best OP, but expect the worst.

Crunched · 17/07/2019 22:35

Is there absolutely no ‘work’ reason they need to catch up? If not, given his previous history, I would ask for a complete disconnect of contact.

JaneyJimplin · 17/07/2019 22:36

Eyeswide, yeah you're right: it would look psycho going to talk to her Grin I wont do that. Thanks.

Thankyou everybody. I think you're right. I will talk to him and hope he will be honest.

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TeaForTheWin · 17/07/2019 22:36

Why is he asking some rando girl for a coffee? That isn't appropriate. I mean if it was a best girl mate that he'd know for years, sure. But a colleague (that isn't even at his branch anymore), no. Bloody cheek. He's setting up another person to cheat with. And even if that wasn't the case, it's totally not on for him to meet a girl on his own for a coffee when she isn't a close mate and he has a gf.

I think I'd be done tbh. I know the temptation is to make excuses like 'oh it's a friend' or 'it's not like he's done anything yet'. But don't. He's cheated before and put you through counciling ect and all that stress and now, he's setting up his ducks in a row to do it all again. That is what he is doing. He isn't her buddy.

Enoughs enough. Don't worry about explaining anything else to him. Stop waiting about for him to get to the point where he cheats. The fact that he is PLANNING to cheat is even worse anyway. He has no respect for you, stop wasting your time on him. He hasn't changed. He has no moral fibre whatsoever.

And if you try have a talk with him he'll just make out you are the one with the problem. And I guess you are -it has two legs and keeps shaggin it's work colleagues. Sort it.

Fairenuff · 17/07/2019 22:37

I think that if he did it before and it was accepted then there is a high chance he will do it again.

HollowTalk · 17/07/2019 22:37

I would go nuclear, too. You have given him a second chance and he's fucking around, putting kisses on junior staff messages. I would go crazy.

TeaForTheWin · 17/07/2019 22:37

*its'

Underworld345 · 17/07/2019 22:37

I’m sorry but I couldn’t let things like this play on my mind without confronting him. It would eat me up inside.

I would search for more proof. I wouldn’t be happy with those messages but would need more evidence than that.

JaneyJimplin · 17/07/2019 22:38

Crunched, not really. They're not the same level of management, she's a few steps down from him, do now she's in another branch there's not really a legitimate reason for them to meet up. Unless he decided to mentor her Hmm

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JaneyJimplin · 17/07/2019 22:41

Teaforthewin, thanks. Very blunt but what I needed.

I'll have a Frank convo with him. Not sure how it'll go.

Fucking hate being an adult.

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bratzilla · 17/07/2019 22:41

I forgave my ex and let him back on my home, just found out he’s been seeing the mother of the child who sits next to DS at school... get rid x

EyesOpenWide · 17/07/2019 22:41

My issue is that I want to stop him before it reaches that stage

That sounds like a pretty fucking miserable and stressful way to live, constantly on high alert, ready to step in and prevent him cheating.

Image all the energy you’ll waste doing that, when that energy could be focussed your kids instead.

TeaForTheWin · 17/07/2019 22:41

Good luck!