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Partner pinned down 4 yr old

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anonaoc · 15/07/2019 19:44

Hi everyone,

I'm at a loss with the relationship between my partner and our 4 year old son.
A little bit about our son. He is a mellow child, well mannered, with whom I can have conversations about life and silly things, we do lots of things together and we enjoy each others company, he's very bright, kind, I could go on.
But he's still a 4 year old, so the old tantrum here and there, coupled with him having started a new nursery since the beginning of the month, and an ear infection so enough on his plate. My DP on the other hand blames my son for everything and seems to have a very short temper lately. DP blames DS for his lack of sleep, telling him he ruined his sleep, tells him that he's selfish, DS only thinking of himself, laughing when he gets hurt, told him he'd die if he doesn't eat his veg. I am so close to leaving him.
Today DS got angry at DP for teasing him and kicked DP. DP then pinned him down and DS started screaming mommy!mommy! I rushed from the kitchen urge DP to let him go and DP insisting DS needs to learn not to kick because it's not ok. So he keeps holding him down, DS clearly distressed and DP telling telling DS to say he's sorry. I told him it doesn't work like that, DS is too upset. Grabbed his arm and tried to free DS but well he is much stronger.
This has had such an impact on me. I dread to think how my son felt in the moment. I was physically, emotionally and verbally abused as a child. It triggered me really bad, it sent me right back to my childhood. I have anxiety and suffer from PTSD (go to therapy). I carry such a heavy burden of ending the cycle, but I'm scared of leaving my son without a constant father through separation.
After DS settled I wanted to talk to him. Asked how he was feeling, he couldn't say so I brought a book with kids faces that show emotions. DS pointed to a sad face and said he wanted to break free but couldn't and started crying again asking why wouldn't daddy let me go?
I want him to get some help. I suggested this in the past, he said he doesn't feel he needs it. I ordered some books on child (and brain)development so he could read (I cling to the last thread of hope). I know that if he doesn't make any progress in this sense, we would have to go our separate ways. We are supposed to share childcare, although I end up doing most of it just to give DP more time for himself, rest etc I barely sleep but I still manage to stay calm because I developed this dialogue with DP where he tells me what's wrong. But DPs mood doesn't change. I fell I have to amend my behaviour not to upset him (exactly what I did as a child and hated it). I'm not scared of him, but if I say try a calmer tone when he's disciplining DS he'l lose it. I don't agree with the common front for parents. My parents did that although it killed my mom to witness the abuse, but now I find her equally to blame although I can rationalize her position at them time.
DP spends most of his time on his phone then complains he has no time left. I restrict my phone usage while DS is with us. DS goes 3 full days, and 2 half days at a private nursery. We only spend the weekend together (I settle him for bedtime during the week). I feel that my son deserves better.

Please be kind.

OP posts:
WhatTheAbsoluteFuck · 15/07/2019 20:52

Holding your son down lightly but you couldn’t pull him off? Either he wasn’t holding him lightly or you have the strength of a feather, and I doubt it’s the latter.

Don’t be complicit in the abuse of your DS as your mother was with you.

I broke the cycle. I know it’s hard. But you have to do this. You’re the only one that can.

BlokeHereInPeace · 15/07/2019 20:53

You say 'Please be kind'.

Perhaps you should be kind. To your son.

longtimelurkerhelen · 15/07/2019 20:56

Your poor boy. I think I would have seen red witnessing that and would have cracked him over the head with something heavy to get him off your boy. Cannot abide anyone using their strength against anything weaker.

You need to protect your son. I'm surprised you didn't ring the police to report this assault.

You know what you need to do, please do it soon.

Flowers
EKGEMS · 15/07/2019 20:56

You have a vile,cruel,abusive son of a bitch partner. You need to either leave with your son or throw the bastard out. If your child reports what happened to another adult you could lose custody as you are aware of physical,verbal and emotional abuse. Don't delay. Start your divorce now

YouJustDoYou · 15/07/2019 20:57

If a stranger pinned you down, would that be ok? If you pinned down a stranger's child, would that be ok? If a stranger pinned down your dc, would that be ok? If you pinned down dh's boss, would that be ok?...... No. You know it wouldn't be. You know everyone in that scenario would get arrested - why? BECAUSE IT'S WRONG.Just because he's a little defenceless 4 year old boy doesn't mean it's ok for your "d"p to pin him down. Seriously - what the fuck? Get angry. Get seriously fucking angry, for the sake of that little boy who has no one else to defend him and look out from him apart from his mum, because god knows the father isn't going to stop any time soon. Poor little guy.

Shoxfordian · 15/07/2019 21:55

Prioritise your child's safety and get him far away from this loser

category12 · 15/07/2019 22:08

Leave for your ds's sake.

BarbedBloom · 15/07/2019 22:10

Leave or you are failing your son. I am sorry to be harsh but I grew up with a father like this. If he gets older and tells someone social services will become involved

endofthelinefinally · 15/07/2019 22:12

You need to leave and get your child away from this man.

ReganSomerset · 15/07/2019 22:15

You should report it to social services or the nspcc or when you leave your son will have to visit his dad without you there to mediate. Far easier to report while still with him or it looks like parental alienation.

RavenLG · 15/07/2019 22:16

Your partner is abusive and your son is in danger as well as you. This time he’s shouted, next time it’s a punch.

MuseThalia · 15/07/2019 22:16

Hopefully you haven't been able to reply because you have left with your little boy and have gone somewhere safe.

PickAChew · 15/07/2019 22:19

This is not a D P at all. He's an abusive bully. You can not keep this man in your life and not be failing your child or putting them in danger.

Rachelover40 · 15/07/2019 22:20

I wonder how the op presented all this to her therapist; she could have said her partner is impatient with her son but not gone into details. No therapist would be so soft on someone who had actually pinned down a small boy.

Reading that the op and her partner do actually live together all the time gave me a sinking feeling.

anon, you really must part from him.

Janus · 15/07/2019 22:21

I have friends who have stayed ‘for the sake of the children’. I totally see their rationale for doing so but the 2 people I know very closely also feel so upset that they did so. They both have children (boys) that now act as their father did and call their mother awful names and shout at them, as their father taught them to.
Honestly, please leave now. You may feel it’s not the right time but it’s so much worse as the children get older and it WILL only get worse over the years.

PickAChew · 15/07/2019 22:22

You need to leave your therapist, too. I can't believe they're excusing his abusive behaviour.

Orlandointhewilderness · 15/07/2019 22:28

You need to wake up and leave him NOW. If your partner loses his temper one day he could kill him.
Please get him out of there.

DinoEggz · 15/07/2019 22:29

This is awful. I’d literally have clawed his eyes out to get him off my child though. Not just grabbed his arm. And I’d have been utterly furious afterwards, especially if I’d told him to get off my child and he’d ignored me. Have you spoken to him and asked him why he didn’t get off when you told him to?!

I’d say leave him, but all that will happen is he’ll be granted unsupervised contact and you won’t be there to protect your son. At least if you stay you can guarantee you’ll be there when your little boy screams for you.

headlock · 15/07/2019 22:30

Your partner obviously has issues. Blaming a four year old child for everything?? Wholeheartedly agree with PP, you have to protect him and get him out of there.

chzarind · 15/07/2019 22:30

My therapist has told me to try and persuade him to get help.

She is a twat.

I tod her I wanted to end things but she said I needed to gie it another try.

Yes, absolute twat.

I will tell her this week when I see her how things have escalated.

You don't need her permission to put your child first.

SlowMoFuckingToes · 15/07/2019 22:39

It's not as easy as just leave though is it. This man will then be alone with his son up to 50% of the time. How will it go then? OP likely has more power to protect her son in the relationship than out. It's not nice but it's the truth.

chzarind · 15/07/2019 22:41

MIt's not as easy as just leave though is it. This man will then be alone with his son up to 50% of the time. How will it go then? OP likely has more power to protect her son in the relationship than out. It's not nice but it's the truth.

Don't understand this train of thought at all.

baileys6904 · 15/07/2019 22:42

I'd be tempted to check your therapists credentials as rhisbisbnot something she should be telling you to do. She shouldn't be telling you do anything, she should be supporting you in talking out your decision.

Leave your OH, your son needs you and deserves better

DinoEggz · 15/07/2019 22:45

Don't understand this train of thought at all
As long as they’re together OP will be there to protect her son from his father virtually 100% of the time. But as soon as she leaves the father will get up to 50% custody. Which means he can be abusive 50% of the time and OP won’t be there to stop him.

chzarind · 15/07/2019 22:53

As long as they’re together OP will be there to protect her son from his father virtually 100% of the time. But as soon as she leaves the father will get up to 50% custody. Which means he can be abusive 50% of the time and OP won’t be there to stop him.

Except today this happened....

Today DS got angry at DP for teasing him and kicked DP. DP then pinned him down and DS started screaming mommy!mommy! I rushed from the kitchen urge DP to let him go and DP insisting DS needs to learn not to kick because it's not ok. So he keeps holding him down, DS clearly distressed and DP telling telling DS to say he's sorry. I told him it doesn't work like that, DS is too upset. Grabbed his arm and tried to free DS but well he is much stronger.

OP actually wasn't able to protect her child today. Why will she be able to protect him 100% of the time in the future if she couldn't do it today?

Like I said, never understand that train of thought.