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What DD said to DH

135 replies

Bookwormm · 06/07/2019 21:00

Things at home have been very tense since having DS who is 1 year old. DH has not pulled his weight mentally and emotionally at all since DC2. I have had to deal with huge pressures with the children who both have allergies. DH has slept in the spare room much of the time so as "not to disturb" me as I was breastfeeding and needed my sleep.

We were certain we would need to separate and were barely on speaking terms for months. DH would not communicate with me at all and my pleas for help fell of deaf ears, to the point I would cry in frustration. He wanted to continue his hobbies as normal and would say things like "just because you can't go out, it doesn't mean I can't." Leave me with poorly kids to take care of and just please himself etc...

The result has been huge mental health issues for me, to the point I was frightened about what might happen to me.

Things over the last few weeks have been better as DH has really made a lot of effort to be more supportive after witnessing me reach my lowest ebb.

Today however, DH told me that DD accused him of being lazy for not helping her with something and said "mummy says you are." She must have overheard a conversation between us when things were tough a couple of months ago.

He is furious and has told me I am not to ever call him things like that infront of DD again. I have said that I haven't done so in the last few weeks and not since being so frustrated and desperate for his help as I was a few months ago. I tried to explain that I was immensely frustrated and that he was not pulling his weight when DD overheard me tell him he was lazy. I have also explained to DD that her father does a lot for her and certainly was not being lazy for not giving her what she wants.

He says there is no excuse and I need to apologise to him. I get I need to avoid saying things like that infront of DD, but he will not acknowledge the fact that he WAS being so incredibly lazy and selfish and that I was so desperate for his help and commitment to our family. I was an absolute state and that he also needs to take responsibility for DD overhearing me call him lazy too and that this doesn't just fall on me.

He refuses to take any of that on board and says that if I think it is acceptable to refer to him as being lazy infront of DD then we are over. He has been sulking all day.

I get it isn't acceptable to argue infront of the children, but I can not get him to see that his behaviour has been so incredibly selfish and lazy at times over the last year or so that it has pushed me to say things and behave in ways that may be aren't acceptable out of sheer frustration. Also, I don't want DD thinking I've been behaving like some crazy stressed out lunatic for no reason... her father has been lazy and selfish. And that it is not really acceptable.

I feel I've insulted his ego and he wants DD to see him as faultless. And yet DD has seen me in such a state this last year because basically, I haven't been coping. He has not given me the support that has been needed.

What is the answer? Please be kind, I'm still not in the strongest of places at the moment.

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DistanceCall · 08/07/2019 13:15

Just to point out, he hasn't left ALL the parenting to me. He does bathtimes, makes breakfast, dresses them, cooks for them at weekends etc. Practically,he's good when he's here. It's that he leaves the managing of everything at home to me. So all these practical things wouldn't happen without me saying...
"DH it's their bedtime now..."
"DH they can't eat that..."
"DH can you get out of bed and dress the kids..."

That's what teenagers do. You need to nag at them to do things, and then they do them. It's not parenting.

In effect, your children have a single parent right now - you. You are taking care of two small children and one manchild. No wonder you are exhausted.

hellsbellsmelons · 08/07/2019 13:54

and says that if I think it is acceptable to refer to him as being lazy infront of DD then we are over. He has been sulking all day
Is he still sulking?
After a comment like that I would have told him to get out and that we ARE over.

Bookwormm · 08/07/2019 14:14

He's stopped sulking.
He has however hurt my feelings again by saying he doesn't understand why he can't go off and do his hobby on my birthday (leaving me with the kids.)
He says I should "just celebrate my birthday on another day."
I threw a glass of water over him and told him to move out.
He is still here.

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missyjudy · 08/07/2019 14:21

Pack his bags. That way he will get the hint

missyjudy · 08/07/2019 14:23

What a pig. Celebrate your birthday on another day so he can go do his hobby? He really does love himself doesn’t he. Get rid. Make him do his fair share of parenting. Find somebody who wants to celebrate your birthday with you on your birthday

Wallywobbles · 08/07/2019 14:32

One to keep up your sleeve.

"If only you loved any of us as much as you love yourself."

Wallywobbles · 08/07/2019 14:33

And make sure when you are sorting the future that he has to get her up after keeping her up late. So weekends that go from Friday after school to Monday morning at school. EOW.

FookMeFookYou · 08/07/2019 14:39

You need to apologise to him?!! Ffs what an utter cock. Wouldn't put up with that shit

DistanceCall · 08/07/2019 14:49

He has however hurt my feelings again by saying he doesn't understand why he can't go off and do his hobby on my birthday (leaving me with the kids.)
He says I should "just celebrate my birthday on another day."
I threw a glass of water over him and told him to move out.

Wow. Just wow.

Get thee to a solicitor, now.

EKGEMS · 08/07/2019 14:56

HE wouldn't have another birthday to celebrate if I had a lazy husband like him who said that to me that's for damn sure

Cheeseandwin5 · 08/07/2019 15:09

It depends, Would you be happier that any horrible views your DH had about you were passed on to your DD.
I suggest you do apologies or this will turn into a tit for tat pulling of your DH emotions.

WhoKnewBeefStew · 08/07/2019 15:38

He said he would prefer us to live together bringing up the children and ignoring each other as trying to make it work between us causes more problems. Ive told him absolutely not an option to live together in misery.*

Haha of course he does... he gets to do fuck all and has a live in childminder, cook, cleaner and everything else whilst not having to contribute.

Good for you OP taking a stand. If it’s sensible to do so, you leave, if he won’t.

NewFoneWhoDis · 08/07/2019 15:51

I get that you are at the end of your tether but it was out of order to throw water over him. Even if you feel he richly deserved it he can claim you assaulted him. It leaves him with the higher moral ground and opens the door to him making life hell for you by claiming you are abusive.

When he provokes you, just walk away. Pick up the baby and leave the room. Shout, scream , cry into a pillow but don't engage in verbal or physical rows with him. You are playing into his hands if you do.

AnotherEmma · 08/07/2019 16:48

You threw a glass of water over him? Confused

One of you clearly needs to move out ASAP. As you are married you need legal advice urgently. If he refuses to move out you will need to go the legal route to resolve it.

MsTSwift · 08/07/2019 16:51

If the cap fits

mumsie8 · 08/07/2019 16:53

I hate to be the one to say this and you know he sounds like an absolute shite but if a woman had come on here and said here other half had thrown a glass of water of her, no matter what the provocation, he would have been roundly and soundly slated. And rightly so. OP you need out and MN is awash with double standards at times.

mumsie8 · 08/07/2019 16:54

Excuse my fat finger typos.

mrssoap · 08/07/2019 17:03

The relationship sounds toxic to me. Easy to say than to do... but I think you should leave him.

Bookwormm · 08/07/2019 19:44

I can't leave. I've nowhere to go.
He could leave. But refuses.
He will not discuss putting our house on the market either. I feel trapped.

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AnotherEmma · 08/07/2019 19:46

Get legal advice then as we've already said.

AnyFucker · 08/07/2019 19:54

There is nothing to save here

Get legal advice and pit this dead relationship out of it's misery

He is a manipulative piece of shit and you have crossed a line with the water throwing

Time to call it a day

Wallywobbles · 08/07/2019 20:07

Just keep moving the divorce forward. He doesn't have to agree.

billy1966 · 08/07/2019 20:19

He sounds so lazy and awful. Change the locks the first chance you get and leave his bags outside.

He has told you he wants to separate, facilitate this.

Tell him when he comes home to go to his parents.

You have had enough of his appalling behaviour.

This is no life for you or the children.

Stick to the story, he wanted to separate.

AnotherEmma · 08/07/2019 20:24

"Change the locks the first chance you get and leave his bags outside."

For the love of God why DO people give this bullshit "advice"?!

Married couples can't do that to each other, they have the legal right to live in the marital home until a court order says otherwise.

Bookwormm · 08/07/2019 21:00

I've already received legal advice.

There is absolutely nothing I can do without his agreement.

Legal advice is just what it is... advice. I can not force his hand in anything. The best I can do is bide my time, save some money and eventually, someday leave myself.

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